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1947 Pick Up Rear Splash Pan

Michael Braun
 

I am trying to install the rear splash pan on my 47 Pick Up. Nothing is lining up.  I posted pictures in the Restoration Help section.  Do I have the right part?  Any help is appreciated.
Mike Braun
30-270-4703

Re: 1947 Pick Up Rear Splash Pan

Tim Hamblen
 

OK, you do know it goes under the tailgate hinge right ? Between the floor and that cross member on the frame .

Re: 1947 Pick Up Rear Splash Pan

Michael Braun
 

I would have thought the pan would have been predrilled for the hinge bolts?

Re: 1947 Pick Up Rear Splash Pan

Butch
 

Mike,

Had they been pre-drilled, there is a better than even chance, the holes would NOT have lined up on YOUR car.

Between Crosley "tolerances" (which in all honesty, were not that bad for the period), the age and unknown history of the car and prior modification, damage and repairs, there is always some "customizing" involved.

Butch

On 8/13/2018 7:13 AM, Michael Braun wrote:
I would have thought the pan would have been predrilled for the hinge bolts?


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New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

Jane Altman
 
Edited

Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does fit the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original bolts.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??
Should we cut cross member and move it back?

Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

Spock Arnold
 

Contact the vendor you bought it from

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:
Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??

Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

crosleyshortsport
 

I have bought three of that same tank.  On two of them I needed to egg shape the holes on the straps to get them to work. The third on fit perfectly.   Jeffrey


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:25 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Contact the vendor you bought it from

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:
Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??

Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

ROBERT L GREGG <capngrog@...>
 


I installed one of the stainless tanks several years ago, and, as Jeffrey said, I had to "egg-shape" the holes to make things fit.  I remember  that there was a problem with the filler spout, but I don't remember exactly what I did to make it fit.  I did not cut any of the Crosley metal, cross member or body.

Cheers, Bob


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 11:48 AM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:


I have bought three of that same tank.  On two of them I needed to egg shape the holes on the straps to get them to work. The third on fit perfectly.   Jeffrey

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:25 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Contact the vendor you bought it from

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:
Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??



Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

crosleyshortsport
 

The filler tube is a tough job to get into the floor and side panel and to line up with the tank and get the copper breather tube in correctly. Just installed this one two weeks ago, had my daughter help, and it took an hour total ! The filler tube does come very tight to the cross member. You will have a much easier time of it if you egg shape the strap holes.  Jeffrey


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:48 AM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
I have bought three of that same tank.  On two of them I needed to egg shape the holes on the straps to get them to work. The third on fit perfectly.   Jeffrey

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:25 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Contact the vendor you bought it from

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:
Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??

Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

David Reina
 

Hey Gang,

I also bought one of these new stainless steel tanks for my 47 Sedan.  I was excited about getting it for my car.  Its a real pretty thing with nice looking welds but it didn’t fit my car.  Of course you don’t discover this until you take down the original one.  In the 47 car the tank is held up with two straps which attach to fixed bolts coming down from the floor sheetmetal.  The new tank had tabs with didn’t line up with the fixed bolts.  I thought, well OK I’ll just use the old straps but the filler neck location on the new tank was welded in closer to the centerline of the tank.  Positioning that filler neck through the big hole for it in the floorboard made the tank sit too far to the driver side, enough so that the passenger side strap was past the end of the new tank.

Another thing to note is that the fuel pickup line comes out on the front side of the tank rather than the original position on the side of the tank.  That fuel pickup line on the new tanks is a 3/8” outside diameter tube rather  than the original threaded hole.  Thats OK but since we are joining it to 1/4” steel line why not make it the same size.

I’m being critical but for such a good idea as a tank that will never rust why not follow the original style more closely so we don’t have to improvise installing them.

Dale was gracious about letting me return it and I also sent back a carefully cut piece of plywood showing the exact bolt location as well as the filler neck hole on my floorboard.  I don’t think there is anything unusual about my 47 and hopefully he can use that pattern to straighten out his welding shop.

In the end I was lucky to find a shop in Queens that could still boil out and seal my old tank.

Dave Reina
Brooklyn, NY
47 Sedan
51 Super Sport


On Aug 14, 2018, at 12:05 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

The filler tube is a tough job to get into the floor and side panel and to line up with the tank and get the copper breather tube in correctly. Just installed this one two weeks ago, had my daughter help, and it took an hour total ! The filler tube does come very tight to the cross member. You will have a much easier time of it if you egg shape the strap holes.  Jeffrey

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:48 AM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
I have bought three of that same tank.  On two of them I needed to egg shape the holes on the straps to get them to work. The third on fit perfectly.   Jeffrey

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:25 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Contact the vendor you bought it from

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:
Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??



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Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

Steve
 

Be aware that early CC gas tanks are not the same as CD gas tanks.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Reina via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:33 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

 

Hey Gang,

 

I also bought one of these new stainless steel tanks for my 47 Sedan.  I was excited about getting it for my car.  Its a real pretty thing with nice looking welds but it didn’t fit my car.  Of course you don’t discover this until you take down the original one.  In the 47 car the tank is held up with two straps which attach to fixed bolts coming down from the floor sheetmetal.  The new tank had tabs with didn’t line up with the fixed bolts.  I thought, well OK I’ll just use the old straps but the filler neck location on the new tank was welded in closer to the centerline of the tank.  Positioning that filler neck through the big hole for it in the floorboard made the tank sit too far to the driver side, enough so that the passenger side strap was past the end of the new tank.

 

Another thing to note is that the fuel pickup line comes out on the front side of the tank rather than the original position on the side of the tank.  That fuel pickup line on the new tanks is a 3/8” outside diameter tube rather  than the original threaded hole.  Thats OK but since we are joining it to 1/4” steel line why not make it the same size.

 

I’m being critical but for such a good idea as a tank that will never rust why not follow the original style more closely so we don’t have to improvise installing them.

 

Dale was gracious about letting me return it and I also sent back a carefully cut piece of plywood showing the exact bolt location as well as the filler neck hole on my floorboard.  I don’t think there is anything unusual about my 47 and hopefully he can use that pattern to straighten out his welding shop.

 

In the end I was lucky to find a shop in Queens that could still boil out and seal my old tank.

 

Dave Reina

Brooklyn, NY

47 Sedan

51 Super Sport

 

 

On Aug 14, 2018, at 12:05 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

 

The filler tube is a tough job to get into the floor and side panel and to line up with the tank and get the copper breather tube in correctly. Just installed this one two weeks ago, had my daughter help, and it took an hour total ! The filler tube does come very tight to the cross member. You will have a much easier time of it if you egg shape the strap holes.  Jeffrey

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:48 AM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

I have bought three of that same tank.  On two of them I needed to egg shape the holes on the straps to get them to work. The third on fit perfectly.   Jeffrey

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:25 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Contact the vendor you bought it from

 

On Aug 14, 2018 11:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:

Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does for the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original boots.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??

 

 

 

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Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

Tim Hamblen
 

Yes , Steve is correct.I bought one from Dave Edwards 3 years ago for the Guppy. The Guppy is built on a CC chassis and the old tank was a CC tank. The new one bolted right in. Easy Peasy.

Re: New Gas Tank Doesn't For Properly

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Hi Jane give me a call and i will walk you through it 
Dale
866-449-0029


On Aug 14, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Ordered the new stainless steel gas tank.  It is not fitting as the old one did.  Dropped old tank to put new one in and it does fit the same.  The welded brackets, straps, don't match up to the original bolts.  Bolts are square headed 3/8.  We redrilled and tried to install but the filler pipe was too long and fits right where the cross member is.  
Any install advice??

Lug Nut Torque

nobadrivers
 

Does anyone know if there is a specified lug nut torque?  I know they're probably all the same but I'm working on a 51 Hot Shot.

Re: Lug Nut Torque

christopher cochrane
 

18” breaker bar. Set to t-i-tt-tight

On Aug 15, 2018, at 3:32 PM, nobadrivers <scanner2@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a specified lug nut torque?  I know they're probably all the same but I'm working on a 51 Hot Shot.

Re: Crosley things around Cincy

parkhunter@...
 

Rich,

it’s been many years since I visited, but the Cincinnati History Museum was great. Of course it includes some Crosley stuff - a couple of cars and other Crosley products, WLW, etc. Plus it is housed in the old Union Station, which is itself pretty cool. 

Unfortunately for you, it looks like it’s clised for renovation right now...

https://www.cincymuseum.org/exhibits.php

Bummer. Hope you trip is good and you find one worthwhile sights. Post pictures and travel info if you do, please!

Blessings,

Park

Re: Lug Nut Torque

nobadrivers
 

That's what I figured, "snug em up tight"

Re: Crosley things around Cincy

Terrance Robinson
 

How about contacting the Cincinnati Visitors Bureau and maybe consulting a AAA book on Ohio?


On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:01 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:
Rich,

it’s been many years since I visited, but the Cincinnati History Museum was great. Of course it includes some Crosley stuff - a couple of cars and other Crosley products, WLW, etc. Plus it is housed in the old Union Station, which is itself pretty cool. 

Unfortunately for you, it looks like it’s clised for renovation right now...

https://www.cincymuseum.org/exhibits.php

Bummer. Hope you trip is good and you find one worthwhile sights. Post pictures and travel info if you do, please!

Blessings,

Park



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Re: Crosley things around Cincy

Richard Helm
 

Thanks for the two suggestions. I was there for the tennis tournament but have run out of time now and need to head home.
Rich


On Aug 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Terrance Robinson <tarobinson44@...> wrote:

How about contacting the Cincinnati Visitors Bureau and maybe consulting a AAA book on Ohio?

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:01 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:
Rich,

it’s been many years since I visited, but the Cincinnati History Museum was great. Of course it includes some Crosley stuff - a couple of cars and other Crosley products, WLW, etc. Plus it is housed in the old Union Station, which is itself pretty cool. 

Unfortunately for you, it looks like it’s clised for renovation right now...

https://www.cincymuseum.org/exhibits.php

Bummer. Hope you trip is good and you find one worthwhile sights. Post pictures and travel info if you do, please!

Blessings,

Park



--
Hurt not the Earth neither the Sea. Nor the Trees.                         Revelation 7:3  
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."   
                                                                            President Dwight D. Eisenhower 
"The only thing to buy on credit is your casket."                       James A Michener
Debt is "anything that you pay today for yesterday's living"              Ruth Hayden
A model of Christian Charity: "We are all responsible (institutions and individuals)    to each other and to serve the common good"              Gov. John Winthrop 1630

Re: For Sale: Engine & Transmission - $250 - IL

Jim Bollman
 

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