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Hot Shot...phrom the 50's

Jaks
 





Re: Crosley frame strength?

Vern Barker
 

why not use the s-10 frame ?
 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

L.E. Hardee
 

Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Anyone tried the 4.80-12 Radials?

Joe Brownsberger
 

The tires I was talking about, I finally received the response I was waiting for. The tires on Coker tire they said they most likely will fit, the 125x12. 


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 8:49 AM Ron Dole <rdole417@...> wrote:
I needed to replace the 50+ year old tires on my project car. On Amazon, I bought 5 - GT Radial Maxtour 145/80R12 tires at $22.20 each, with free prime shipping. It seams every time I go back and look at the tires, Amazon has a different price. They have gone from the $22.20 I paid all the way up to $50, and anywhere in between. Today they are at $27.98. They seem to change the price like the stock market. Anyway, since my car is still under restoration, I have not been able to try them out, but they look like a decent tire. Especially for the amount of miles they will probably see.  I wanted the car tire look, as opposed to the trailer tire look, and these fit the bill.

Re: Anyone tried the 4.80-12 Radials?

Jane Altman
 

The guy who bought my delivery truck put white Walls on and they look really nice.  I'll see if he will share thoughts


On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, 3:05 PM Todd Swangstu <bastardbus@...> wrote:
Strange, I just noticed not only do they make a 145-12 Radial tire they make a radial tire with the bias ply size rating at 4.80-12.  

Has anyone tried these?  I prefer the LOOK of bias plys over common radials.  Do these 4.80R-12 radials LOOK like the 4.80 bias plys?  Same size ?  and how is the handling? 

Anyone have pics of them on their car?  I would love to see how they look.

Thanks!
Todd 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

christopher cochrane
 

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg

On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Robert Connearney
 

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Mike <seller432@...>
 

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

christopher cochrane
 

The stock frame with some boxing would do fine. And a Toyota 22r / 5 speed swap would be awesome and it would right down the road. 

On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:15 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Jim Bollman
 

Lots of good suggestions. If you want to do a lot less work but get a little more power converting to what a lot of us call a Crosley Big Block would more than double your horse power and not add much if any weight and would require no structural changes.  For those that don't know what a CBB is, the Crosley engine continued with modification and improvements till 1972, under multiple companies. The last two turns of the crank were the Homelite 55 and Fisher Pierce Bearcat 55 outboard boat engines.  The 55s were basically the same engine, they were 59CI because of bigger bower and stroke. They put out 55hp stock and with carb and exhaust improvements can get 60-70hp with no other modifications.Takes a bit of machining to put them back into  car but a stock Crosley crankcase still works. The stock transmission and rear can be used if you don't push the burn outs and such to much.

So that gives you more acceleration, but you still have a crash box 3 speed and 5:17 rear, but the can be upgraded as you go. Under the hood, to the none Crosley expert, it will look fairly stock.

Just another option.

Jim...

On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 

Crosley things around Cincy

Richard Helm
 

Does anyone have recommendations for things to see about Crosley in Cincinnati area? I checked a little online and learned that the VOA museum is only open on weekends and the Crosley estate is not normally open for tours. I'll be visiting there next week and would have Friday open to do something interesting.
Thanks,
Rich

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Robert Connearney
 

An acquaintance has a Crosley wagon, into which he swapped a small Datsun pushrod engine (1300 cc, I think). Uses a Metropolitan rear end (same 4" bolt circle), but it had to be narrowed. Engine is physically similar to a Sprite/Midget, which would be much easier to find, including parts. The Spridget rear end is 42" track, only 2" wider than a Crosley, which could be narrowed a bit with front wheel drive wheels (MG 1100?), all of which have the same 4" bolt circle. I think early Honda Civic wheels would also fit.

At one time, I was going to check into the possibility of using one of those 3 cylinder Japanese/Chevvy (Prism?) engines, which were small, and i think, all alloy. Hard to find now. Could consider a Ford Zetec twin cam (iron block), or Duratec (all alloy). I can't comment on the "fit" of these. Unless a candidate engine came in a rear drive application, you would need to come up with a different transmission, and need an adapter.
Bob Connearney


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike via Groups.Io" <seller432@...>
Date: 8/9/18 9:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Carter Carb

Joe Brownsberger
 

Hi, does anyone have a Carter 431sa carburator for sale. thats the same type i pulled off a 48' Crosley engine and it has severe pitting and holes. Now im looking for a new carb.

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Mike <seller432@...>
 

I was thinking of the s10 4cyl platform. About 120hp mated to a 5 speed manual. 98-03 has the aluminum head and plastic intake was told they weigh about 150 w/o accessories. Plus I’d have it tuned to remove emission stuff and remove a/c.  Plus these trucks rot out around here and no one likes them do to under powered so they sell cheap.  
It’s hard where I’m at as every thing was scrapped or is severely rotted and difficult to find there’s 1 junkyard with old cars but he’s so over priced on stuff.  



On Aug 9, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Lots of good suggestions. If you want to do a lot less work but get a little more power converting to what a lot of us call a Crosley Big Block would more than double your horse power and not add much if any weight and would require no structural changes.  For those that don't know what a CBB is, the Crosley engine continued with modification and improvements till 1972, under multiple companies. The last two turns of the crank were the Homelite 55 and Fisher Pierce Bearcat 55 outboard boat engines.  The 55s were basically the same engine, they were 59CI because of bigger bower and stroke. They put out 55hp stock and with carb and exhaust improvements can get 60-70hp with no other modifications.Takes a bit of machining to put them back into  car but a stock Crosley crankcase still works. The stock transmission and rear can be used if you don't push the burn outs and such to much.

So that gives you more acceleration, but you still have a crash box 3 speed and 5:17 rear, but the can be upgraded as you go. Under the hood, to the none Crosley expert, it will look fairly stock.

Just another option.

Jim...

On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

nobadrivers
 

I wonder if an old Chevrolet Chevette drivetrain would be worth looking into?

Re: Carter Carb

nobadrivers
 

 I believe there is one on ebay right now item number 173386496635

Re: Carter Carb

Jim Bollman
 

The Carter you have obviously fits, not sure about the jetting for a stock engine, it may run a little rich since it was intended for a larger engine. The Crosley used two slightly different Carters, the 870S and WO 934S. I would guess our big three vendors all have rebuildable cores of the standard Crosley Carters.

Jim...


On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:18 PM, nobadrivers <scanner2@...> wrote:

173386496635

Re: Carter Carb

Spock Arnold
 

A 48 , unless I am drastically mistaken, would have had a Tillitson on it originally. 

On Aug 9, 2018 1:16 PM, Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:
Hi, does anyone have a Carter 431sa carburator for sale. thats the same type i pulled off a 48' Crosley engine and it has severe pitting and holes. Now im looking for a new carb.

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Madeline Kay Putney
 

For what it is worth I looked into a Chevy Chevete with an automatic transmission for a Super Sport swap and it looked pretty easy. I also considered a Toyota 2TC “ hemi” style engine from the 1970s. According to all the measurements that I could make while rolling around in a junk yard looked considerably more feasable. Also those little engines are tough.




On Thursday, August 9, 2018, 3:09 PM, nobadrivers <scanner2@...> wrote:

I wonder if an old Chevrolet Chevette drivetrain would be worth looking into?

Re: Carter Carb

Joe Brownsberger
 

All the research I've come up with is that this carburetor I have would have gone on a 4 cylinder war era Willy/Jeep. The fact it ended up on a crosley doesn't surprise, with all assuming and speculations aside I figured out that the 431sa was the predecessor of the carter 934s. The 934s was a redesigned 431sa. 


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 5:23 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
A 48 , unless I am drastically mistaken, would have had a Tillitson on it originally. 

On Aug 9, 2018 1:16 PM, Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:
Hi, does anyone have a Carter 431sa carburator for sale. thats the same type i pulled off a 48' Crosley engine and it has severe pitting and holes. Now im looking for a new carb.