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Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Steve
 

I use axle straps over the outer ends of both the front and rear axles secured to the trailer with ratchet straps to go with a secure 4 point tie down.  I then use two more tie downs behind the front wheel running from the spring shackle to the trailer for extra security.  I had a cousin driving a Suburban killed when a Ford Escort came off a car dolly towed by an RV.  No car of mine will come off my trailer.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Bollman
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:13 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

 

I would not use a tie point in the center of the axle, it could bend the axle if you tie down to hard or hit some bumps, especially the pre 1950 axle that was lighter weight. I always do two in the front and two in the back either straight or crossed your choice. Tie in the front outboard of the leaf springs making sure your are looping around just the axle and not part of the steering linkage. On the back I again go outboard of the springs, be sure not to get any of the brake lines or cables in the loop around the axle, again either straight or crossed. I have used chains and straps, both are fine but don't use the really light weight cheap straps they sell at Harbor Freight or other box stores, be sure they are rated for the load you have. 

 

Being a belt and suspenders kind of guy I always add a single chain to the front, not pulled tight just as a last ditch in case the worse happens, the car will not roll into traffic behind me. I usually just loop that around a front spring shackle since it will only pull tight if something completely unexpected happens. 

 

A lot depends on how far your trailering too, if only a short distance you can be a little less cautious than if you're going hundreds of miles.

 

Jim...

 

On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Todd Swangstu <bastardbus@...> wrote:

 

I am towing my first Crosley home.  Any recommendations on best spots underneath to tied down the vehicle to the trailer? Thanks Todd

 

Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Todd Swangstu
 

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Re: Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

Todd Swangstu
 

Steve, were those the bias ply or radial 530-12s.  I have seen both but the radial has much wider tread/foot print which might cause that.  I will check mine tomorrow and see if it rubs too.

Re: Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

L.E. Hardee
 

Just a note:  While the smaller tire diameter could indeed cut your speed at a given rpm, it will also increase your torque.  This will allow for faster acceleration and could actually increase the top speed if you don't mind your engine rpm being higher.  BUT, how many of us want to go over 70 mph in a Crosley anyway.  Once was enough for me.  I was 16 and crazy to do it then. 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

Be creful with 530 x 12.  Put those on my 48.  Okay in the rear.  Rubbed the fender on the front when turning.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Swangstu
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 6:24 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

 

Just picked up my car today and took a look and what a strange thing I found they are all marked ARCO 530/450-12 tires.  Interesting they have two sizes marked on em.  I did some research online and indeed the 480/12 are 20.5 inch and the 530/12 are 21.5.  Since Jim said his original spare 450 measure 21.5 and I see no issues with rubbing with the 21.5 ARCO 530/450s on mine I am going to go with the new 530-12s too.  I think the last thing a Crosley needs is a shorter tire to drop maximum speed even more.


Re: Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

Todd Swangstu
 
Edited

I have driven VWs for 30 years and they have a similar issue as Crosleys, being somewhat underpowered.  With tires and final drive ratios, I found the smartest move was to always stick with the factory tire (dimension) used with the drive train it was designed for.  I have seen people go smaller to improve torque and larger tire to improve top end speed but both creates nothing but problems at the other end of the spectrum.  I feel the engineers that designed these vehicles took all factors into consideration and came up with the over all best set up for the car.  I want to drive my Crosley as much as possible in modern day traffic and I think that would give me the best over all results.

Re: Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

Steve
 

Those were bias.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Swangstu
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:13 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

 

Steve, were those the bias ply or radial 530-12s.  I have seen both but the radial has much wider tread/foot print which might cause that.  I will check mine tomorrow and see if it rubs too.

Re: Anyone know the original Crosly 4.5-12 tire dimensions ?

Todd Swangstu
 

Interesting...do you still have em around or did you ever measure the height?  I have heard of some good differences in size between manufacturers.  Anyone else out there using various 530-12s with or without issues?

Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Todd Swangstu
 

Thanks much for help and tips guys!  I have never towed a Crosley before and was a little worried about what to hook up too!  Even the frame looks somewhat fragile!  LOL

Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Terrance Robinson
 

Thanks--Terry

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Ken Acheson <jesse@...> wrote:
You never want ot tye down on frame as it is mounted on springs and will bounce and break your straps and move around

On Jul 25, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Terrance Robinson <tarobinson44@...> wrote:

how about the frame?--Terry

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Todd Swangstu <bastardbus@...> wrote:
I am towing my first Crosley home.  Any recommendations on best spots underneath to tied down the vehicle to the trailer? Thanks Todd





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Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Terrance Robinson
 

why? Terry

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:24 PM, John Van Sickle via Groups.Io <crosleyjon@...> wrote:
I .also suggest the car be put in neutral,,,




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Re: What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?

Mac McBrayer
 

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From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> on behalf of Terrance Robinson <tarobinson44@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] What is best spot to tie down Crosley wagon for towing?
 
why? Terry

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:24 PM, John Van Sickle via Groups.Io <crosleyjon@...> wrote:
I .also suggest the car be put in neutral,,,




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50th anniversary of Crosley Club

Spock Arnold
 

It's never too early to start talking about the future!  Next year marks the 50th anniversary of the club and the 80th of Crosley production.  We are already beginning to plan the activities of the meet.  Activities could begin as early as Monday of meet week!!  Why not plan your vacation around the show?  We already have an air conditioned building on the property rented for the banquet so lots of new stuff coming!!

Feature Story on Member Orson Benedict

Jim Bollman
 

Nice store, video and photo of CAC member Orson Benedict of CT and his 52 pickup.

http://wheels.rep-am.com/2018/07/25-crosley-started-the-obsession/

Jim...

special engine tool

paul
 

Folks,
what kind of wrench works on the center 2 manifold nuts?   a home made one?   use a cheap box end and grind around the sides until it just slips on?   grind slow and keep it cool or dip into water?   does it really matter since those nuts shouldn't be that tight?   wanting to change gaskets.
also on distributor advance,  does one pull the breaker plate to be sure the advance is not stuck? any secrets, it's not going to fly apart with a hundred springs is it? like the cloth snake in a can....   thanks,  Paul Rinehart
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Re: special engine tool

Richard Williams
 

Hold the rotor and see if it turns OK. Should move if it is not stuck


On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎28‎, ‎2018‎ ‎03‎:‎12‎:‎03‎ ‎PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:


Folks,
what kind of wrench works on the center 2 manifold nuts?   a home made one?   use a cheap box end and grind around the sides until it just slips on?   grind slow and keep it cool or dip into water?   does it really matter since those nuts shouldn't be that tight?   wanting to change gaskets.
also on distributor advance,  does one pull the breaker plate to be sure the advance is not stuck? any secrets, it's not going to fly apart with a hundred springs is it? like the cloth snake in a can....   thanks,  Paul Rinehart
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Re: special engine tool

paul
 

DUHHH  thanks on that one Richard. re-inventing the wheel with those tiny screws didn't thrill me.   Paul

On 7/28/2018 6:19 PM, Richard Williams via Groups.Io wrote:
Hold the rotor and see if it turns OK. Should move if it is not stuck




Re: special engine tool

Jim Bollman
 

I made my special wrench as you described, only I started with an old but good quality box wrench that I bought at a flea market for a coupe of dollars, that way I knew I was starting with good steel. Over the years I have collected a tool box drawer of special tools that I have made or bought. Those tools only come out when the standard tools don't work.

On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:11 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:

Folks,
what kind of wrench works on the center 2 manifold nuts?   a home made one?   use a cheap box end and grind around the sides until it just slips on?   grind slow and keep it cool or dip into water?   does it really matter since those nuts shouldn't be that tight?   wanting to change gaskets.
also on distributor advance,  does one pull the breaker plate to be sure the advance is not stuck? any secrets, it's not going to fly apart with a hundred springs is it? like the cloth snake in a can....   thanks,  Paul Rinehart
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Re: special engine tool

L.E. Hardee
 

Speaking of special tools, I learned as a teenager over fifty years ago, that to get the block to crankcase nuts that are between the cylinders, I had to shell out the big bucks and buy a Snap-On 6-point box wrench.  It was thinner due to the high strength steel to get in the tight area, and the 6 sides griped the corroded nuts.  The standard 12 point wrench just rounded off the nut corners.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
I made my special wrench as you described, only I started with an old but good quality box wrench that I bought at a flea market for a coupe of dollars, that way I knew I was starting with good steel. Over the years I have collected a tool box drawer of special tools that I have made or bought. Those tools only come out when the standard tools don't work.

On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:11 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:

Folks,
what kind of wrench works on the center 2 manifold nuts?   a home made one?   use a cheap box end and grind around the sides until it just slips on?   grind slow and keep it cool or dip into water?   does it really matter since those nuts shouldn't be that tight?   wanting to change gaskets.
also on distributor advance,  does one pull the breaker plate to be sure the advance is not stuck? any secrets, it's not going to fly apart with a hundred springs is it? like the cloth snake in a can....   thanks,  Paul Rinehart
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Re: special engine tool

Jaks
 

and after you grind off the sides off the 'box'.  bend the wrench into a 'U' so it comes up around the manifolds and you don't have to compete phor space with water hose, pump, or generator.  Vice grips will aid the wrench tightening or loosening

Jaks Phillips
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bollman <Jim@...>
To: Crosley-Gang <Crosley-Gang@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 28, 2018 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] special engine tool

I made my special wrench as you described, only I started with an old but good quality box wrench that I bought at a flea market for a coupe of dollars, that way I knew I was starting with good steel. Over the years I have collected a tool box drawer of special tools that I have made or bought. Those tools only come out when the standard tools don't work.

On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:11 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:

Folks,
what kind of wrench works on the center 2 manifold nuts?   a home made one?   use a cheap box end and grind around the sides until it just slips on?   grind slow and keep it cool or dip into water?   does it really matter since those nuts shouldn't be that tight?   wanting to change gaskets.
also on distributor advance,  does one pull the breaker plate to be sure the advance is not stuck? any secrets, it's not going to fly apart with a hundred springs is it? like the cloth snake in a can....   thanks,  Paul Rinehart
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Re: Feature Story on Member Orson Benedict

crosleyshortsport
 

Very nicely written article !  Thank you for sharing.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018, 3:42 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Nice store, video and photo of CAC member Orson Benedict of CT and his 52 pickup.

http://wheels.rep-am.com/2018/07/25-crosley-started-the-obsession/

Jim...