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Re: Calling all water pump afficianados

Paula W
 

My apologies on the duplicate attachments. I had attached as pictures and thought I properly deleted them before attaching again as files.

Re: Calling all water pump afficianados

Paula W
 

I didn't know for sure where to post this without starting a new thread, but I wanted to share something we did to extend the life of our original leaky 3 bolt water pump for our '47 sedan.
We used the Service Motors rebuild kit, but decided we also needed to do something about the worn bearing. The impeller and housing was not made with great precision.
With courage gained after a consultation with a retired machinist / car enthusiast, we approached an active local machinist who  built us a new back/bearing piece. So far so good. You'll see it is a little thicker. I have forgotten the bearing material at the moment, but we were handed the leftover rod material for, you know, when we need it again.

Re: Sold: 1952 Station Wagon With Homelite 55 - LA Area of CA - $5500

Jim Bollman
 

The Wagon has been sold.

Re: CD windshield install

Robert Connearney
 

I bought a 1946 Stude pickup decades ago, that had a cracked windshield. I spent a couple of hours trying to put a new one in, and it finally became apparent that it might be possible to go from the inside out. Eureka! Always wondered if I had overlooked something obvious that would have made it easier to install using the "conventional" procedure. Thanks for finally putting that question to rest!



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From: Mike S <miso7@...>
Date: 4/9/19 10:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] CD windshield install

Didn't Crosley try to plan on an output of 120 cars a day?  What techniques or machinery would they have had to speed up the process of installing the glass on the assembly line?  I've watched old films of the Studebaker factory installing windshields (from the inside of the cabin on early post war cars) and was amazed at how ruff they seemed to handle the glass.
Mike S 

Re: CD windshield install

Mike S
 

Didn't Crosley try to plan on an output of 120 cars a day?  What techniques or machinery would they have had to speed up the process of installing the glass on the assembly line?  I've watched old films of the Studebaker factory installing windshields (from the inside of the cabin on early post war cars) and was amazed at how ruff they seemed to handle the glass.
Mike S 

Re: CD windshield install

Rich Childs
 

I have installed a couple on Crosleys and numerous other vintage cars.  the technique I have also used is to install the rubber gasket on the glass, then fill the channel that will meet the body with dish soap which is then following by a length of waxed cord that will reach around the window plus about a foot extra at each end.  Set the channel over the lip of the lower windshield with the overlapping ends to the inside of the car.  then have someone maintain light and even pressure from the outside while you  slowly pull the cord while angling it toward the center of the glass.   The lip of the rubber gasket will be pulled the metal lip[ of the opening. You continue working your way around, going from one side to the other to keep it dropping in evenly.    The dish soap and the waxed cord have never failed to work for me.  If you get a bit hasty, you may find a few areas that don't clear entirely.  For those I have always used a 1/2 wide plastic spatula to slide under the lip and move laterally to clear the spot that has hung up.   As you can see here, it really is a two man job to do well.   It is easier on the Crosley because you have the center space which is bolted to the exterior chrome reveal and allows for a bit more flexibility in getting the outer surround in place and then adding the center piece.    On a large one piece window if you don't have the gasket firmly set on the glass before trying to get it in the body, it can become really difficult.  If things feel too tight as you move along, you might want to start over, instead of pushing to hared and breaking your glass.    

Good luck, 

Rich Childs

Re: CD windshield install

Mike S
 

Are all of the tips above assuming the glass is installed from the inside of the cabin, or from the outside?  I notice the shop manual says to go from the inside and to use a rope....but it sounds like experience has found the rope is more trouble than help???

Re: Selling my 48 wagon $6500

Tim Hamblen
 

Also has a new fuel pump. Has a Philco radio. It was sent down to Texas and repaired with some new tubes and buzz box. Last time I turned it on it worked, guess it still does. Luggage rack goes with car.

Re: Packard Club Crosley Presentation - April 1

crosleyshortsport
 

Sounds like a good time Steve. 


On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 4:12 PM Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

Last Monday Crosley people attended the monthly meeting of the Packards of Chicagoland.  John Maxson had graciously extended the invitation to join their dinner meeting and listen to his presentation on Crosley – The Man, The Magic, and the Machines.  On Saturday, Bill Mitchell called me to ask if I had any pictures of Crosleys.  After 25 years of photographing every car at Wauseon ….. uh,yes, I have pictures.  On Sunday night, John Maxson called and asked if I had my presentation ready.  The result was a 29 slide presentation from the CRAD to the Bug.  We highlighted every year of production, nearly every model, all the prototypes, the H-MODs, the fiberglass special bodies, ice cream trucks, and firetrucks  I took along a tin block to pass around and had my 52 Wagon on the trailer in the parking lot.

 

Dennis Terdy, Roger and Dorothy Yeager, our Q Editor Joyce and husband Scot Morgan, Bill Mitchell, myself, and one more Crosley owner (whose name I didn’t catch) had a great time meeting with the Packard Club and listening to John speak about Powel Crosley Jr., his life, his personal vehicles, planes, and boats, and his many business ventures.  Then it was my turn.

 

I guess it went well.  The next day, John called to thank me and asked if I would like to do it again. 

 

Thank you to the Packard Club, we enjoyed ourselves.  Many thanks to the Crosley members who have let me take their pictures over the years.  Thank you Dennis, Roger, Dorothy, Joyce, Scot, and Bill for your support and representation of the club.

 

-Steve M.

 

Packard Club Crosley Presentation - April 1

Steve
 

Last Monday Crosley people attended the monthly meeting of the Packards of Chicagoland.  John Maxson had graciously extended the invitation to join their dinner meeting and listen to his presentation on Crosley – The Man, The Magic, and the Machines.  On Saturday, Bill Mitchell called me to ask if I had any pictures of Crosleys.  After 25 years of photographing every car at Wauseon ….. uh,yes, I have pictures.  On Sunday night, John Maxson called and asked if I had my presentation ready.  The result was a 29 slide presentation from the CRAD to the Bug.  We highlighted every year of production, nearly every model, all the prototypes, the H-MODs, the fiberglass special bodies, ice cream trucks, and firetrucks  I took along a tin block to pass around and had my 52 Wagon on the trailer in the parking lot.

 

Dennis Terdy, Roger and Dorothy Yeager, our Q Editor Joyce and husband Scot Morgan, Bill Mitchell, myself, and one more Crosley owner (whose name I didn’t catch) had a great time meeting with the Packard Club and listening to John speak about Powel Crosley Jr., his life, his personal vehicles, planes, and boats, and his many business ventures.  Then it was my turn.

 

I guess it went well.  The next day, John called to thank me and asked if I would like to do it again. 

 

Thank you to the Packard Club, we enjoyed ourselves.  Many thanks to the Crosley members who have let me take their pictures over the years.  Thank you Dennis, Roger, Dorothy, Joyce, Scot, and Bill for your support and representation of the club.

 

-Steve M.

 

Re: CD windshield install

Paula W
 

Took another good look at our windshield - we have a lot of those line marks in the rubber from his use of the hook tool. They would be objectionable to anyone considering show quality, which he knew we were not. We just had a broken windshield to replace. Here's where perhaps  warming the rubber would have helped, and a little more time and care as Dale suggests. (Or maybe that's where the spoon comes in too?)

BTW, I think the Superglue may have been a suggestion to seal where the rubber edges come together. We have a very teeny gap. He deliberately did not put that seam at the bottom of the center post due to the possibility of water/rust. Our original windshield had the seam midway up the passenger side. This glass person put it midway on the bottom of the driver's side.

okay - I think I'm done. :-)

Re: CD windshield install

Paula W
 
Edited

Dale's comment inspired me to share our story -
I gave up the idea of doing it myself but had the opportunity to watch two others try on our 47 sedan, one an earnest mechanic and one a car glass installer who was recommended by a local restoration shop.

The mechanic's unsuccessful attempt was with string. The string kept breaking and cutting the rubber. I suspect he was using the wrong kind of string  but the other problem for both attempts was that it seemed like the glass and rubber was all just too big. On the advice of the mechanic we took the windshields back to where they were first cut (templates were made from originals) and asked if they could shave down the edges. They may have tried, but I didn't notice much of a difference. In truth, I didn't realize at the time how delicate and time consuming that could be so the glass cutter was likely very conservative.

The next and successful attempt was by the car glass installer using Dale's method. He used a hook (like a cotter pin removal tool). I don't remember a spoon, but he may have had some other device I can't recall. On a towel at a side workbench he set both panes of glass in the rubber, leaving a space in between for the center rubber and trim. The two panes and surrounding rubber were then placed on the car as a unit. I wish I could remember his route around the window, but I recall the top was last before he installed the center rubber and trim piece. And of course he had those suction cups. I helped a little in holding the glass, but with the tools he had he didn't need me much.

He was at it a long time and to be fair we still have several marks in the rubber where the hook was being used (no holes or tears, but small lines). It all seemed a VERY tight fit.
His suggestion to me for next time is to order a slightly thinner grade of glass. I don't recall the code for it. I just hope I don't have to do this again any time soon (ever, really).

Addendum (Found some notes I scribbled when glass guy came):
  • Used Presol to pre-clean surfaces
  • GOJO hand cleaner for rubber lubrication - he said when this dries it suffices as sealant; never use silicone
  • Used plastic spacers between the glass panes (at top and bottom in center to keep the two panes from hitting each other during the install)
  • Cotter pin extractor tool - this had a small ball on the end (Perhaps Dale's "hook")
  • started install at the bottom, then the side edges
  • I also have "superglue" noted, but can't read what for. I update this if I can descipher my handwriting
  • And finally, I'm almost sure he told me NOT to warm the rubber, but for the life of me I can't recall why. He didn't warm it.

Re: CD windshield install

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Hi Sandy,
First let me start by telling you it’s not going to be easy they are never fun. The only advice I could really give you is do not rope them in. Use a spoon and a hook and work it in slowly and easily. Use plenty of WD-40 or some sort of lubricant to use on the weatherstrip to make it go in easier. Another piece of advice is to make sure the weatherstrip is good and warm before you start putting it in that usually helps it. Are usually put both sides in at the same time and then install the center divider. As many as I have done it usually still takes me 2 1/2 three hours to put the windshield in. Just font get frustrated.

Dale
Service Motors

On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Sandy Smith via Groups.Io <tarmaciron=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Can anyone provide instruction, tips or tricks on installing windshield glass in a 51 CD.
Fighting with this ! Without success
Thanks

Sandy Smith


Re: CD windshield install

Clell
 

Peter Berard's advice is good.   Two other things might be of help.  The slot in the rubber where the strong string is placed can be lubricated with water less hand soap--the non abrasive kind.  Provides super slick flexing of the rubber.

Having installed dozens of window glass in various vehicles I learned that if the actual glass you are working with seems too large and all efforts fail to install it, it is (believe it or not) possible to grind the laminated (not tempered) glass down so it will fit.  Go to a good glass company and they will have abrasive discs to be used by an orbital grinder that is used to carefully cut down on the edge of the glass.  They will tell you to do the job carefully to not generate any heat.  When I badly needed that information the glass company actually gave me free of charge three adhesive backed discs.  I went home, and from time to time--so I didn't get carried away doing to much at one time--ground on the side of the glass that was a little too wide.   Don't know how much I took off but after a while the glass went in beautifully with help of a couple of people on the outside putting just the right amount of pressure while I pulled the string and used the plastic glass tool in a couple of tough places.

On 4/5/2019 3:41 PM, Jim Bollman wrote:
Here is a method that was posted back in 2013.

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"Peter Berard" <berard_m@...>07/08/13 #27940

Tony,
I use a method my dad taught me in the 40s, when flat windshields were the norm.
First, get son tough spall string, I got the nylon kind typically used to snap a chock line.
put the rubber over the windshield glass and place the string in the dish washing soap lubricated outside grove. Slide the rubber onto the bottom body flange and force it tight to the outside flange. with someone holding the glass tightly outward to the outside flange. Pull the string from inside the car gently while shoehorning a bit with a bent screwdriver. Work slowly, and you might have to try this several times till ya get the hang of it.
Now, I found the present day rubbers to be quite fat so a lot of coursing will be needed.
Of course the size of the glass is critical, but I had mine cut using the old glass for a pattern, so I have to blame the rubbers. I'd have made the glass a eighth inch smaller in width and height if I'd known this, but I still got em in.
Hope this helps...............p
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I have not tried it, so use at your own risk.

Jim...

On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Sandy Smith via Groups.Io <tarmaciron=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Can anyone provide instruction, tips or tricks on installing windshield glass in a 51 CD.
Fighting with this ! Without success
Thanks

Sandy Smith



Re: Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

whistler@...
 

Ron Canterbury  Said.... Yes. Jr. Stevens, Waterloo Ia. Bought from Jim Gettlefinger. 1964.$2000.00. He broke my record,$1000.00 i paid to Bill Burgen 1963, for Hank Geer 41 tq.

Re: Micro Car Show for a Cause

christopher cochrane
 

Where is this at

On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Michael Braun <mwbraun@...> wrote:

DO YOU LIKE MICROCARS?
THEN SAVE THE DATE
OCTOBER 18, 19 & 20
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Re: CD windshield install

christopher cochrane
 

Beautiful wagon

On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Steve Perry <@steverino> wrote:

Nice car....


Re: CROSLEY TITLE

Spock Arnold
 

Early C C tanks.

On Apr 5, 2019 9:45 PM, Steve Perry <sperryfish@...> wrote:
Gary sent these photos to me yesterday. This style tank is different than the one on my Super Sports..

Re: CD windshield install

Steve Perry
 

Nice car....

Re: CROSLEY TITLE

Steve Perry
 

Gary sent these photos to me yesterday. This style tank is different than the one on my Super Sports..