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Torque tube

 

Has anyone converted a Crosley rearend to an open driveshaft. If so can you tell me what's involved?

Re: Unknown objects

Joe Brownsberger
 

Thanks for the help everyone, much appreciated.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 7:36 AM Ron Dole <rdole417@...> wrote:
Judging from the picture, the frame has the master cylinder bracket, but no master cylinder, and the bolts that used to hold the mechanical brake equalization bar, but there is no bar there. This leads me to believe that Fred Flintstone owned this car, and used his own braking system.
Or, since the body is off the car, the prior owner pulled the mechanical system off, with intent of adding hydraulic brakes.

Re: Unknown objects

Ron D.
 

Judging from the picture, the frame has the master cylinder bracket, but no master cylinder, and the bolts that used to hold the mechanical brake equalization bar, but there is no bar there. This leads me to believe that Fred Flintstone owned this car, and used his own braking system.
Or, since the body is off the car, the prior owner pulled the mechanical system off, with intent of adding hydraulic brakes.

Re: Unknown objects

Jim Bollman
 
Edited

If there are equivalent bolts or bolt holes on the opposite frame rail from the two yellow arrows it may be the left over hardware from the brake equalization bar for mechanical brakes.  The bracket may have been added either bolted or welded on to convert to hydraulic brakes. Crosley made a bracket that they sold to do the conversion, I have attached a photo. There are more photos in the Restoration Album on the Crosley-Gang site of the bracket.



On Jan 8, 2019, at 12:33 AM, Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:

What are these bolts for? Also what is that metal angle shelf thing on the chassis? Yellow arrows are for the bolts and red arrow is for the shelf thing. <20190108_003027.jpg>

Re: Unknown objects

Spock Arnold
 

Yes 49 could have had almost any combination of brakes, gauges, hubcaps, lights etc etc.  It really was a transitional year

On Jan 8, 2019 5:10 PM, "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:
Well, I am at home and checked my 50. Yes it's the master cylinder bracket. My very early  49 w/ mechanical brakes has no such bracket. Your's must be some transitional frame going from mechanicals to hydraulic.

Re: Unknown objects

Joe Brownsberger
 

I check the one book I had and I also found a lubrication page with it showing the master cylinder bracket. But I am still clue less about those bolts and what they are for.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 5:11 PM Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Well, I am at home and checked my 50. Yes it's the master cylinder bracket. My very early  49 w/ mechanical brakes has no such bracket. Your's must be some transitional frame going from mechanicals to hydraulic.

Re: Unknown objects

Tim Hamblen
 

Well, I am at home and checked my 50. Yes it's the master cylinder bracket. My very early  49 w/ mechanical brakes has no such bracket. Your's must be some transitional frame going from mechanicals to hydraulic.

Re: Unknown objects

Joe Brownsberger
 

Mechanical breaks and yes it is pointing towards thar front of the car.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 3:31 PM Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Hydraulic or mechanical brakes. If hydraulic I believe the master cylinder goes on there. My 49 is a mech brake and I just looked under it and tr does not have that. My 50 is at home so I cannot confirm w/o looking.Is the red arrow also pointing towards front of car ? We need some orientation.

Re: Unknown objects

Tim Hamblen
 

Hydraulic or mechanical brakes. If hydraulic I believe the master cylinder goes on there. My 49 is a mech brake and I just looked under it and tr does not have that. My 50 is at home so I cannot confirm w/o looking.Is the red arrow also pointing towards front of car ? We need some orientation.

Re: Unknown objects

Joe Brownsberger
 

1949 crosley station wagon


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 12:58 PM Robert Kirk via Groups.Io <kirkbrit=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
And the vehicle is???  Red arrows look like the fresh air scoop under a VC, possibly.

Re: Unknown objects

Robert Kirk
 

And the vehicle is???  Red arrows look like the fresh air scoop under a VC, possibly.

Unknown objects

Joe Brownsberger
 

What are these bolts for? Also what is that metal angle shelf thing on the chassis? Yellow arrows are for the bolts and red arrow is for the shelf thing.

Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Ed Limke
 

That’s a themoking unit

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Bollman
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:14 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Strange Engine Water Pump

 

Mystery Solved

Dave Edwards sent me photos of two pages of the Thermo-King manual, that was where it was used. They had a governor mounted to be driven off the fan belt and the water pump was driven off the back of the governor.


Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Jim Bollman
 

Mystery Solved

Dave Edwards sent me photos of two pages of the Thermo-King manual, that was where it was used. They had a governor mounted to be driven off the fan belt and the water pump was driven off the back of the governor.


Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

 

Bid was up to $1000 when I looked last night.

Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Tim Hamblen
 

Jim, I looked at the pics from Mecum earlier today. They are billing it as "art" (go figure) so I'm not sure anything is right. It appears to me the pump is being held on only by the hoses. It's not even bolted in the right place. I have one of the jackshafts that replace the generator on my new build and it would not fit into that space at all. It appears to be just odd parts bolted together for the sake of (again) "art". I know,one thing, I have a genuine 48 or earlier "art" engine that I would gladly sell for a grand.

Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Jim Bollman
 

Could be but it is different than the several generator engines I have had or the  ones I have seen that I paid attention to. I know Crosley build a lot of different versions of the generator setup.

On Jan 3, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Barb Kapraun <backap1@...> wrote:

Kap also said, "This water pump was driven by a jack shaft since the unit had a magneto with no need for a generator or battery (crank started)."


On Jan 3, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Barb Kapraun <backap1@...> wrote:

Kap said the water pump is from a generator.


On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Saw a posting for an engine for sale at a Mecum Auction
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FR0119-349509/crosley-1948-crosley-motor/

When I looked at it they claim it is a 1948 but the serial number and block styles indicates it is probably a 1950 engine. What is strange is the water pump, anyone seen one this style? What was the application?

Other thing I noticed is it doesn't appear to have a bolt to hold on the front pulley. 

More pictures at auction link.

<StrangeCrosleyWaterPump.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Back.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Pully.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_SN.jpg>

Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Barb Kapraun
 

Kap also said, "This water pump was driven by a jack shaft since the unit had a magneto with no need for a generator or battery (crank started)."


On Jan 3, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Barb Kapraun <backap1@...> wrote:

Kap said the water pump is from a generator.


On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Saw a posting for an engine for sale at a Mecum Auction
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FR0119-349509/crosley-1948-crosley-motor/

When I looked at it they claim it is a 1948 but the serial number and block styles indicates it is probably a 1950 engine. What is strange is the water pump, anyone seen one this style? What was the application?

Other thing I noticed is it doesn't appear to have a bolt to hold on the front pulley.

More pictures at auction link.

<StrangeCrosleyWaterPump.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Back.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Pully.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_SN.jpg>

Re: Strange Engine Water Pump

Barb Kapraun
 

Kap said the water pump is from a generator.


On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Saw a posting for an engine for sale at a Mecum Auction
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FR0119-349509/crosley-1948-crosley-motor/

When I looked at it they claim it is a 1948 but the serial number and block styles indicates it is probably a 1950 engine. What is strange is the water pump, anyone seen one this style? What was the application?

Other thing I noticed is it doesn't appear to have a bolt to hold on the front pulley.

More pictures at auction link.

<StrangeCrosleyWaterPump.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Back.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_Pully.jpg><StrangeCrosleyWaterPump_SN.jpg>

FW: 1951 CROSLEY SUPER SPORT

Gary Bryant
 

HERE IS A NICE FIND!!!

 

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Subject: 1951 CROSLEY SUPER SPORT

 

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1951 CROSLEY SUPER SPORT

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/6785708719.html


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