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Re: Car jack

Jim Bollman
 

Service Motors has reprints of the late parts book it has some CC in it but not complete, the CC complete parts book you just have to be lucky to find an original.

Jim...

On Sep 17, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:

Now that is interesting....I wonder how the Crosley cost accounting system worked if they didn't change part numbers when costs may have changed?

BTW, Where can a guy find a copy of the parts book?

Re: Car jack

Mike S
 

Now that is interesting....I wonder how the Crosley cost accounting system worked if they didn't change part numbers when costs may have changed?

BTW, Where can a guy find a copy of the parts book?

Re: Car jack

Kenn Cahill
 

The parts number was the same for all of the different styles of jacks.

Re: Car jack

Jim Bollman
 

A topic that has needed some study and research for a long time.

On Sep 17, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:

We all must be really desperate for things to talk about....to have this many comments about a bumper jack......you have to go all the way back to July to see this many posts on a subject.

Re: Car jack

Mike S
 

We all must be really desperate for things to talk about....to have this many comments about a bumper jack......you have to go all the way back to July to see this many posts on a subject.

Re: Nice Write Up On IL Regional Meet

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

Kinda neat….in the one photo of the yellow truck, is my friend who lives just south of Utica….since I couldn’t make it to the show, he went by to look around & give a me a report. 

Mike S



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Nice Write Up On IL Regional Meet

Jim Bollman
 

Looks like a good show again this year in spite of the rain start.

https://www.mywebtimes.com/lists/2019/09/15/3239651d5f35432b8e6fbb2f16770c14/index.xml?page=1

Re: Car jack

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

I wonder if there are any accessory catalogs or parts books from different years which might show when each design was in use?



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Re: Car jack

Jerry Summey
 

My 50 Hotshot came to me with a round base.

In a message dated 9/16/2019 9:03:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, brawnybug@... writes:

My ’50 wagon had the round base for the screw jack.  My ’52 wagon has the rectangular base like Jim B.’s.

-Steve M.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Helm
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 8:57 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Car jack

 

My 49 Hot Shot came with a round base. The screw jack looks the same.

Rich


Re: Car jack

Steve
 

My ’50 wagon had the round base for the screw jack.  My ’52 wagon has the rectangular base like Jim B.’s.

-Steve M.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Helm
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 8:57 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Car jack

 

My 49 Hot Shot came with a round base. The screw jack looks the same.

Rich

Re: Car jack

Jerry and Kathy
 
Edited

After reading this thread I went out and looked, I knew I had 2 jacks but I never looked at them closely.  Attached are a couple of pictures I took and you can see the differences. Threaded length is a little different, Jack handles are different diameters, one is riveted and one is cast.  The  thread pitch and diameter are a little different between the two also. 
I only have the one square base.

Re: Car jack

Paula W
 

Jim,
My grandfather was a mechanic and chauffeur. I can well believe he didn't want my dad using those screw jacks, hence the scissor jack in Dad's car. Only a theory. My dad was no mechanic. How it turns out the color of the car remains a mystery. 
Paula


On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 7:51 PM, Jim Bollman
<Jim@...> wrote:
Good luck finding one. Never found one that the owner didn't know what it was.

Would like to see more pictures of the different variations, might make a good Crosley Garage article.

I'm sure that Crosley never left the factory with a scissor jack, would have cost at least a dollar more than the screw jack and Powel wouldn't have allowed that :-)

Jim...

On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:30 PM, Ron D. <rdole417@...> wrote:

Thanks for all the responses and pics. As I said, mine came with a scissor jack, so I would use that if needed on the side of the road. A floor jack in the garage is what will be used at home. I just didn't know what the factory one looked like, as sooner or later, I hope to find one for a couple of bucks at a flea market, from someone cleaning out their dads old "junk".

Re: Car jack

Jim Bollman
 

Good luck finding one. Never found one that the owner didn't know what it was.

Would like to see more pictures of the different variations, might make a good Crosley Garage article.

I'm sure that Crosley never left the factory with a scissor jack, would have cost at least a dollar more than the screw jack and Powel wouldn't have allowed that :-)

Jim...

On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:30 PM, Ron D. <rdole417@...> wrote:

Thanks for all the responses and pics. As I said, mine came with a scissor jack, so I would use that if needed on the side of the road. A floor jack in the garage is what will be used at home. I just didn't know what the factory one looked like, as sooner or later, I hope to find one for a couple of bucks at a flea market, from someone cleaning out their dads old "junk".

Re: Car jack

Ron D.
 

Thanks for all the responses and pics. As I said, mine came with a scissor jack, so I would use that if needed on the side of the road. A floor jack in the garage is what will be used at home. I just didn't know what the factory one looked like, as sooner or later, I hope to find one for a couple of bucks at a flea market, from someone cleaning out their dads old "junk".

Re: Car jack

L.E. Hardee
 

The Crosley screw jack is not practical or in any way safe to use.  The bumper arms aren't strong enough to support the weight and they flex into the gravel shields.  More likely than not, the minute you get the tire off the ground so you can change it, the tire on the other side will start to slide and the car will go sideways off the jack.  You better hope you left a lug bolt on or you will have a time.  Use another kind of jack to change your tires and save the original jack for show only!!!!!


On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:44 PM Kenn Cahill <drkenncahill@...> wrote:
There was also another style of “lip” to hook under the bumper. Some of the jacks had a cast-iron lip instead of the folded metal with rivets.
My 1941 had the rectangular base, the bumper lip made of folded metal, and a black plastic ball on the end of the jack handle. I assume it was original, but I cannot say for sure.



Re: Car jack

Kenn Cahill
 

There was also another style of “lip” to hook under the bumper. Some of the jacks had a cast-iron lip instead of the folded metal with rivets.
My 1941 had the rectangular base, the bumper lip made of folded metal, and a black plastic ball on the end of the jack handle. I assume it was original, but I cannot say for sure.

Re: Car jack

Kenn Cahill
 

I used the original jack on my 1948 wagon many times. I would hesitate to use it on a car with good pebble shields, as they can sometimes be bent by using this factory bumper jack. The car can definitely lean. I forget all of the tricks I used, but I figured out which way I needed to lean the jack to make sure that the car did not tip over when I got it lifted high enough to remove the wheel. I frequently had to put the jack on something higher than only its own base to get the car high enough to remove the wheel. It seems to me I put the base on a piece of wood at least 2 inches thick.
Now I use the original jack for show and use a hydraulic jack, scissors jack or a floor jack to do the work.

Re: Car jack

Paula W
 

Agreed. I don't know what my dad would have done, but we don't use the scissor jack on the bumper.

Re: Car jack

Mike S
 

Also note that Jim's base plate has 4 gussets to add strength that mine does not have.  Wonder if that means his is a later model, or if there was more than one supplier?
Mike S

Re: Car jack

Jim Bollman
 

Never noticed the different length of the non threaded part. Mine has a new home now so I can't measure it.

I don't have show cars to display a jack and would never jack a Crosley up with an original jack. I don't even carry a jack in the FOR which will probably bite me now that I admit it. When my wagon was on the road I carried a scissor jack. For just a good jack to use that doesn't take up m much room I would probably consider a Ford pickup truck jack, not sure what they use now but they used the same style from the late 40s to at least 2000, I have several around for general use.

On Sep 15, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Kenn Cahill <drkenncahill@...> wrote:

Mike, your jack is what I am used to seeing. If you use the handle as a unit of measure, it looks like Jim’s had part of the unthreaded part cut off, or it was just never as long to begin with.