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Re: Late Crosley of the Month Posted

Tom McDowell <bugger5913@...>
 

Jim,

here at work we call it CRS Can't Remember Sh*#!

See you at the Bugger nats!
Tom
--- Tony <crosley_az@...> wrote:
Jim,

Out here in Az we call them "senior moments"

Dang good lookin pre-war Crosley . I like the
color.

Tony





--- In Crosley_Gang@..., "Jim Bollman"
<Jim@B...> wrote:
Not sure where my head was this month, but I
completely forgot to
post
a new Crosley of the month for April on the 1st.
Where were all you
guys that usually bug me?

So this will be the Crosley of the 6 weeks,
instead of Month to give
it plenty of viewing time.

http://www.ggw.org/~cac/

Jim...




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Re: where do you live in arizona?

"WILLIAM H. WALLACE III" <vinoman86332@...>
 

HELLO TONY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE CLUB MEMBERS LIVE IN ARIZONA? AND WHERE? I LIVE IN WILHOIT,AZ. 17 MILES SOUTH OF PRESCOTT,AZ. ON RT. 89S. THE WINO

Tony <crosley_az@...> wrote:Jim,

Out here in Az we call them "senior moments"

Dang good lookin pre-war Crosley . I like the color.

Tony





--- In Crosley_Gang@..., "Jim Bollman" <Jim@B...> wrote:
Not sure where my head was this month, but I completely forgot to
post
a new Crosley of the month for April on the 1st. Where were all you
guys that usually bug me?

So this will be the Crosley of the 6 weeks, instead of Month to give
it plenty of viewing time.

http://www.ggw.org/~cac/

Jim...


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Re: where do you live in arizona?

"David W. Anspach" <tmkldwwj@...>
 

Mr. Wallace;
According to my records from the last mailing, 29 CAC members
live in Arizona (sounds like a good excuse for a new region!). The
new roster is planned to be out just after Wauseon (we decided to
wait until then as we have a lot of new members and renewals at the
National show). With that, you will be able to contact anyone you
need to.
Dave

Re: where do you live in arizona?

"WILLIAM H. WALLACE III" <vinoman86332@...>
 

HELLO DAVID, THANK YOU-- SHIPPING ON PARTS IS VERY EXPENSIVE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SOURCES HERE IN THE WEST COAST AREA.
GOOD-DAY, THE WINO

"David W. Anspach" <tmkldwwj@...> wrote:
Mr. Wallace;
According to my records from the last mailing, 29 CAC members
live in Arizona (sounds like a good excuse for a new region!). The
new roster is planned to be out just after Wauseon (we decided to
wait until then as we have a lot of new members and renewals at the
National show). With that, you will be able to contact anyone you
need to.
Dave




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Custom rims

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I saw some crosley's in the photos pages that custom aluminum looking rims.I went through the archives but cant find any mention of where they came from.Does any one know here to get some.Also does any one have the name of a shop that can rebabbitt main bearings.I found one person who can make me brand new ones from scratch but they are 500.00 plus dollars a set.any one know of cheaper ones or should i jump on these?


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New Pics Posted

"KEN HOOVER" <khoover@...>
 

Posted some new pics in the Super Sports, Dads 49 Hotshot folder. My
restorer was so busy the body sat idle all winter. I was thrilled to
see some progress being done. Both rocker panels are replaced and
the wheel wells are next on the list. The plan is to cut the bad
metal out around the wells and weld new in.

Re: New Pics Posted

Jim Bollman <Jim@...>
 

windsurf88@... posted on March 15th that the Aluminum wheels on his CC, that is pictured on the site, were 13 x 5 et aluminum unilugs. and he bought them on eBay.

Jim...

On Apr 20, 2004, at 10:55 PM, KEN HOOVER wrote:

Posted some new pics in the Super Sports, Dads 49 Hotshot folder. My
restorer was so busy the body sat idle all winter. I was thrilled to
see some progress being done. Both rocker panels are replaced and
the wheel wells are next on the list. The plan is to cut the bad
metal out around the wells and weld new in.

`Half the town is wiped out'

x779@...
 

This story was sent to you by: Lou Rugani

Utica devastated by tornado!

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`Half the town is wiped out'
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Tornado outbreak kills at least 4 in hard-hit Utica

By James Kimberly and Patrick Rucker, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune staff reporters James Janega, Nancy Ryan, William Presecky and Tribune news services contributed to this report. Freelance report

April 21, 2004

Spring thunderstorms spawned a series of tornadoes across northern Illinois Tuesday night, devastating the main street of one small town as they cut a swath of damage toward Chicago's suburbs.

At least four people were reported dead in Utica, an Illinois River town near Starved Rock State Park, where a twister ripped through the small downtown, toppling buildings and snapping trees in half.

Early Wednesday, rescue workers were using specialized camera equipment to peer through debris, looking for at least five missing people in the wreckage of the Milestone restaurant in downtown Utica.

When the storms plowed northeast out of LaSalle County, ferocious winds knocked down part of a Walgreens store and ripped roofs from homes in Joliet. There were no early reports of serious injuries in Joliet.

National Weather Service meteorologists said they were investigating reports that as many as 19 tornadoes touched down within a few miles of each other. One by one, they damaged or wrecked houses, stores and taverns in Marshall, LaSalle and Will Counties.

About 60 homes were damaged and a bank lost its roof when three possible tornadoes passed through Granville in Putnam County, said Patti Thompson, a spokeswoman for the Illinois Emergency Management Agency.

But Utica appeared to be the hardest-hit.

All that remained of the one block of downtown Utica were trees sheared off in a straight line, 10-foot-tall piles of bricks and lumber, and a stray mattress.

Mark Chamness, senior policy adviser for the Illinois Emergency Management Agency, said four fatalities were confirmed by medical officials.

"About half the town is wiped out," said Sandra Esmond, 53, wife of Utica Mayor Fred Esmond. "I've seen a lot of older homes in town demolished, businesses that have been here for years. People are just devastated. Right now everybody in town is pulling together, trying to help everyone."

Two centers in town, the gym at Waltham South Elementary School and Utica Baptist Church, were taking in residents left homeless or without power by the storms.

In neighboring Ottawa, a few miles east and 75 miles southwest of the Loop, fire officials coordinated the arrival of rescue crews from neighboring towns, Chicago and Rockford, said Ottawa Fire Department Capt. Dennis Leamy.

At a restaurant in Utica, several people were still missing late Tuesday, said State Trooper Tim Reppin. Utica fire officials said several people had sought shelter in the basement of the restaurant and were trapped there when it collapsed. Four others were injured, he said.

Gene Vogelsang, spokesman for Illinois Valley Community Hospital in Peru, said an 11-year-old girl, an 8-year-old boy, a 16-year-old girl, and a woman in her 40s--none of them seriously injured--were brought to the hospital.

Dozens of residents waited at a state police roadblock on U.S. Highway 6 and Illinois Highway 178, about a mile outside of town.

Utica's city hall and police station had been damaged, said Leamy, as had the town's two ambulances. An elementary school was also damaged, officials said. Little information was coming from command sites in town late Tuesday.

Survivors in communities across the area said warning sirens sounded, but that the storms came quickly.

"There were rocks and dirt flying everywhere," said Lori Mathesius, 46, who lives in a mobile home two blocks east of downtown Utica. "It sounded like the most piercing whistle you ever heard."

She was at home Tuesday night with her 4- and 6-year-old grandsons. When she heard the tornado sirens, she grabbed them and ran to nearby Clark Run Creek.

A large funnel cloud, followed by a smaller one, passed from west to east near them, she said.

When they returned home, there were three trees on top of it.

"It came up very fast," said Rose Bottomlay, who lives three blocks from downtown. "Debris was blowing everywhere."

At the National Weather Service office in Romeoville, meteorologist Casey Sullivan said weather watchers were overtasked as they tried to pin down how many tornadoes spun through the northeast part of the state after 6 p.m.

Most of the tornadoes appeared to hit LaSalle County.

"It happened so quick, we just ran to basement," said Sam Zulbeari, who owns Ali's Pantry Family Restaurant in Granville. "We got scared a little bit, but we're lucky we didn't get hurt. ... It's just miserable."

The tornadoes were associated with a warm front colliding with the colder air that had been in the area Tuesday, causing what Sullivan called an "outbreak" of perhaps 19 tornadoes, according to reports.

"A lot of things came together to produce this," he said.

The storm system rumbled on toward Joliet, with one report of a twister touching down in Channahon. Power officials reported at least 15,000 people were without electricity in northern Illinois.

Joliet City Manager John Mezera reported no serious injuries there, though he said electrical lines had been snapped and trees bent over across 4 square miles in west Joliet.

Roofs were missing from homes, a Walgreens and a flower shop in the neighborhood, he said. .

In Joliet, Sheryle Depirro lost part of her chimney and roof. Roofing from the back of house was wrapped around a tree in front. All the wires around the house were down. She and her family huddled in the basement with the dog after they heard the warning sirens start, then stop, then start again.

She said she wasn't concerned about the damage to her home.

"I don't care," she said. "We're all fine."


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Re: `Half the town is wiped out'

"Sue Pavlik" <suepavlik@...>
 

Lou,

Are you near there? Are there Crosley Club members there? It's so
frustrating that these things happen with little to no warning, thus leaving
us pretty impotent. My thoughts are with all of the folks in that area.

Sue
Stockton, CA
Mothers of teenagers understand why some animals eat their young.



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From: x779@... [mailto:x779@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:43 AM
To: Crosley_Gang@...
Subject: [Crosley_Gang] `Half the town is wiped out'


This story was sent to you by: Lou Rugani

Utica devastated by tornado!

--------------------
`Half the town is wiped out'
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Tornado outbreak kills at least 4 in hard-hit Utica

By James Kimberly and Patrick Rucker, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune staff
reporters James Janega, Nancy Ryan, William Presecky and Tribune news
services contributed to this report. Freelance report

April 21, 2004

Spring thunderstorms spawned a series of tornadoes across northern Illinois
Tuesday night, devastating the main street of one small town as they cut a
swath of damage toward Chicago's suburbs.

At least four people were reported dead in Utica, an Illinois River town
near Starved Rock State Park, where a twister ripped through the small
downtown, toppling buildings and snapping trees in half.

Early Wednesday, rescue workers were using specialized camera equipment to
peer through debris, looking for at least five missing people in the
wreckage of the Milestone restaurant in downtown Utica.

When the storms plowed northeast out of LaSalle County, ferocious winds
knocked down part of a Walgreens store and ripped roofs from homes in
Joliet. There were no early reports of serious injuries in Joliet.

National Weather Service meteorologists said they were investigating reports
that as many as 19 tornadoes touched down within a few miles of each other.
One by one, they damaged or wrecked houses, stores and taverns in Marshall,
LaSalle and Will Counties.

About 60 homes were damaged and a bank lost its roof when three possible
tornadoes passed through Granville in Putnam County, said Patti Thompson, a
spokeswoman for the Illinois Emergency Management Agency.

But Utica appeared to be the hardest-hit.

All that remained of the one block of downtown Utica were trees sheared off
in a straight line, 10-foot-tall piles of bricks and lumber, and a stray
mattress.

Mark Chamness, senior policy adviser for the Illinois Emergency Management
Agency, said four fatalities were confirmed by medical officials.

"About half the town is wiped out," said Sandra Esmond, 53, wife of Utica
Mayor Fred Esmond. "I've seen a lot of older homes in town demolished,
businesses that have been here for years. People are just devastated. Right
now everybody in town is pulling together, trying to help everyone."

Two centers in town, the gym at Waltham South Elementary School and Utica
Baptist Church, were taking in residents left homeless or without power by
the storms.

In neighboring Ottawa, a few miles east and 75 miles southwest of the Loop,
fire officials coordinated the arrival of rescue crews from neighboring
towns, Chicago and Rockford, said Ottawa Fire Department Capt. Dennis Leamy.

At a restaurant in Utica, several people were still missing late Tuesday,
said State Trooper Tim Reppin. Utica fire officials said several people had
sought shelter in the basement of the restaurant and were trapped there when
it collapsed. Four others were injured, he said.

Gene Vogelsang, spokesman for Illinois Valley Community Hospital in Peru,
said an 11-year-old girl, an 8-year-old boy, a 16-year-old girl, and a woman
in her 40s--none of them seriously injured--were brought to the hospital.

Dozens of residents waited at a state police roadblock on U.S. Highway 6 and
Illinois Highway 178, about a mile outside of town.

Utica's city hall and police station had been damaged, said Leamy, as had
the town's two ambulances. An elementary school was also damaged, officials
said. Little information was coming from command sites in town late Tuesday.

Survivors in communities across the area said warning sirens sounded, but
that the storms came quickly.

"There were rocks and dirt flying everywhere," said Lori Mathesius, 46, who
lives in a mobile home two blocks east of downtown Utica. "It sounded like
the most piercing whistle you ever heard."

She was at home Tuesday night with her 4- and 6-year-old grandsons. When she
heard the tornado sirens, she grabbed them and ran to nearby Clark Run
Creek.

A large funnel cloud, followed by a smaller one, passed from west to east
near them, she said.

When they returned home, there were three trees on top of it.

"It came up very fast," said Rose Bottomlay, who lives three blocks from
downtown. "Debris was blowing everywhere."

At the National Weather Service office in Romeoville, meteorologist Casey
Sullivan said weather watchers were overtasked as they tried to pin down how
many tornadoes spun through the northeast part of the state after 6 p.m.

Most of the tornadoes appeared to hit LaSalle County.

"It happened so quick, we just ran to basement," said Sam Zulbeari, who owns
Ali's Pantry Family Restaurant in Granville. "We got scared a little bit,
but we're lucky we didn't get hurt. ... It's just miserable."

The tornadoes were associated with a warm front colliding with the colder
air that had been in the area Tuesday, causing what Sullivan called an
"outbreak" of perhaps 19 tornadoes, according to reports.

"A lot of things came together to produce this," he said.

The storm system rumbled on toward Joliet, with one report of a twister
touching down in Channahon. Power officials reported at least 15,000 people
were without electricity in northern Illinois.

Joliet City Manager John Mezera reported no serious injuries there, though
he said electrical lines had been snapped and trees bent over across 4
square miles in west Joliet.

Roofs were missing from homes, a Walgreens and a flower shop in the
neighborhood, he said. .

In Joliet, Sheryle Depirro lost part of her chimney and roof. Roofing from
the back of house was wrapped around a tree in front. All the wires around
the house were down. She and her family huddled in the basement with the dog
after they heard the warning sirens start, then stop, then start again.

She said she wasn't concerned about the damage to her home.

"I don't care," she said. "We're all fine."


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Utica

x779@...
 

Thanks, Sue. I'm about 150 miles from Utica, which has been the spot for
the CAC Illinois Region's annual September Meet since 1975.
In years past the Region met just outside Utica, but over the past few
years the Region has moved into Utica proper.
In 1988, "Powel Crosley and the Twentieth Century" was filmed in part
there. Some of you will recall that I was there last Fall, and ate at
Nikki's downtown, and befriended the owner, who said a lot of Crosley
folk were in the restaurant a month earlier.

Now the downtown is ruined. One of the restaurants collapsed onto four
people who were taking shelter in the basement, killing them all. Five
others are missing.

I'll have more news when it's available.

Regards....
Lou
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The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.
– Robert Anthony

Re: Super Sport

"Norman Nance" <norman@...>
 

Still have mine on webfenders.com. Check it out and let me know if you have an interest or questions.

N

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Does anyone know where I can find a Super Sport for sale. I saw the
one on Hemmings, but it is a little pricey. Thanks, Paul Eastwood



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Utica Relief Fund.

x779@...
 

This is self-explanatory:
http://www.wlsam.com/shownews.asp?ID=84798

Regards....
Lou
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`Here we are! Here we are!'

x779@...
 

This story was sent to you by: =Lou=

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`Here we are! Here we are!'
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Mother's cry from the rubble to rescuers leads to safety--and news that one son was killed

By James Kimberly and Angela Rozas, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune staff reporters Liam Ford and Patrick Rucker contributed to this report, which was written by staff reporter Rex W. Huppke

April 22, 2004

UTICA, Ill -- Trapped in the collapsed basement of the Milestone Tap restaurant, sandwiched between rubble and drenched in icy water and mud, Debbie Miller heard the sound of rescue workers above.

She knew there was hope for her, her husband and four children: "We started freaking out, saying `Here we are! Here we are!'"

Rescue workers found the Miller family about half an hour after a tornado wiped out the restaurant Tuesday night, but the search for survivors and the bodies of those killed would stretch on through the day Wednesday and into the late afternoon.

From a frenzied beginning when the family and a few others were pulled out alive, the search slowed, becoming a deliberate deconstruction of a mountain of wood, stone and debris.

Rescue workers heaved chunks of stone, and watched and listened vigilantly for any sign of the eight people trapped below.

They dropped microphones between cracks in the rubble, strained to listen over the din of generators and diesel engines. Though the hope of finding others alive was growing dim, firefighters never stopped calling it a rescue mission.

"Obviously, we would like to recover as many survivors as possible," Lt. Dave Adler of the Addison Fire Department said Wednesday afternoon as the search continued. "The other part of that, then, is if the person is not a survivor, then we do it for the family."

Firefighters said the building essentially imploded, creating a collapse unlike anything the experienced search and rescue crews had seen.

"This wasn't like one type of collapse," said Adler, whose firefighters traveled from the Chicago suburbs to Utica along with crews from across the region. "It was like multiple collapses, with thousands of pounds of stones piled on top of it."

The chaotic array of rubble caused the search for survivors to progress in fits and starts.

Miller, 44, was trapped for hours in the building's basement with her husband, Mike Miller, 49, and four of her children, ages 8 to 15. Miller, a cook at Milestone, had asked her husband to bring the children to the restaurant, thinking the basement there would be safer than their home.

"When it started coming, I said, `Come on, let's go, everybody get down to the basement,'" Miller said.

Once downstairs, they huddled in a corner near a large refrigerator. Suddenly the lights went off, there was a loud boom and everything started to collapse.

"I started yelling out the names of all the kids to see if they were all right," Miller said. "It was hard to breathe."

Miller's 18-year-old son, Michael Miller Jr., who had stayed upstairs to help get one of the restaurant's doors closed, was killed in the collapse.

"We got lost from him," she said. "I don't even know if he got in the basement."

It was daylight before the crews began to find the bodies of those that died, and the long, dark hours leading to that point were marked by steady, monotonous labor.

Shortly after midnight, a crew of 25 firefighters from Aurora, Batavia, North Aurora, Geneva and Sandwich took to the north side of the pile, forming a brigade with 5-gallon buckets, methodically hauling away dirt and rubble.

Elsewhere, smaller teams peered into the darkened cracks with video cameras. Others simply crouched down and used flashlights to peer into nooks and crannies.

Outside of town, more than two dozen family members of those unaccounted for gathered at the Starved Rock Lodge, some stepping outside to nervously smoke cigarettes as they awaited news of their loved ones.

By 1 a.m., the cold front responsible for the violent tornadoes had settled over Utica, and a steady rain began to pour.

The firefighters at the Milestone, their breath now visible in the cold, continued their work, moving back and forth across Mill Street to the Utica Fire Department, which was still standing and acted as a staging area and a place for tired searchers to rest.

The firefighters started at the top of the debris pile and worked their way down through collapsed layers.

When they spotted personal items such as framed family pictures, they put them in their pockets or handed them to someone on the ground for safekeeping.

Chicago Fire Department paramedic Joe Tavitas and his Rottweiler, Big Foot, a veteran of the World Trade Center search, volunteered for the rescue effort in Utica.

Although chances of finding survivors seemed slim as the morning drew on, Tavitas was not dissuaded.

"I didn't let that stop me," he said, motioning toward his dog. "I came out anyway because I knew what he could do."

By 2:15 a.m., heavy machinery arrived: a large bulldozer, a backhoe on treads and a front-end loader. By 4 a.m., firefighters had a 120-foot-tall crane to help clear the rubble and pieces of walls.

Around the same time, Marty Vincent was playing solitaire in the lobby of the Starved Rock Lodge. He was waiting on word about his grandmother, Helen Menke, 81, who had sought shelter in the Milestone.

When he first heard news of the tornadoes, Vincent threw two chainsaws into the back of his truck and headed for Utica to check on Menke and see if he could help out. By the pre-dawn hours, there was little for him to do but sit in the lobby with his cards, waiting and worrying about the fate of his grandmother. "Well, I've waited this long," he said. "I'll just stay up until the end."

Menke's body was later recovered. She died in the collapse.

At 6:45 a.m., under a gray sky, firefighters stretched a tarp over the northeast side of the debris pile, and lined up to form a human wall that would obstruct the view of the first body. Across the parking lot, an EMT from the Lisle Fire Department, folded up a stretcher and returned it to the ambulance, along with an unused box of emergency medicine.

Michael Fox, chief of the Chicago Fire Department's Special Operations, said his firefighters didn't ease up once they started finding bodies.

"What happens," he said, "you keep looking--for the next one."

The first of the bodies, wrapped in a blue tarp and strapped to an orange stretcher, was pulled from the rubble shortly after 11 a.m. An elderly priest, wearing a tan jacket over his vestments against a cold wind, blessed the body.

Seven more would be pulled from the rubble before the end of the day.


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Proud town torn to pieces

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This story was sent to you by: =Lou=

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Proud town torn to pieces
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Fatal storm flattens historic downtown

By Ofelia Casillas and Ted Gregory, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune staff reporters Gina Kim, Patrick Rucker, Angela Rozas, John Biemer, Liam Ford and James Janega contributed to this report.

April 22, 2004

UTICA, Ill. -- The sun rose over this Illinois River town Wednesday to reveal a landscape no one recognized.

After a century with little change, Utica's main street was flattened by passing tornadoes. Piles of rubble were all that remained of landmarks. Some homes were recognizable only by the wallpaper pattern in the wreckage.

Firefighters worked into the afternoon carefully digging through the remains of the Milestone Tap downtown. When they were done, they had pulled eight bodies from beneath splintered beams and stone.

The restaurant and the destroyed buildings around it had been the historic heart of a northern Illinois vacation spot, home to fewer than a thousand people, but a place that welcomes 2.5 million visitors each summer to Starved Rock State Park nearby.

Many came to Utica's Mill Street, occupied by some of the town's oldest buildings, some dating back to the 1860s.

Those buildings were leveled by powerful and fast-moving storm cells that raced through the area like something alive and angry, spawning 53 tornadoes in the Midwest, more than three-fourths of them in Illinois. Before they dissipated, the storms overturned cars and blew roofs off buildings in Joliet.

Ten Illinois counties were affected, four of which--LaSalle, Putnam, Kankakee and Will--were declared disaster areas Wednesday by Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Blagojevich toured some of the devastated towns on Wednesday. Federal Emergency Management Agency officials were expected to see the area Thursday.

"Our prayers are with everyone in this community, particularly those who lost their lives," Blagojevich said during the visit. He praised the rescuers, saying Illinoisans should "take inspiration from the heroes who are here."

Throughout the night Tuesday and into Wednesday, rescue workers from Utica and cities as far away as Chicago and Rockford picked through the Milestone Tap's debris, hoping to find a handful of neighbors trapped under slabs of stone and cracked masonry.

When the emergency sirens went off, those who could flocked to the stone building.

The husband of a cook in the restaurant brought their children to hide in its deep basement. A few blocks away, an elderly woman living in a trailer park took one look at her surroundings and called a neighbor. They hurried to the Milestone Tap.

The country-and-western-themed family restaurant and bar "seemed as safe as any stone building in a tornado," said LaSalle County Sheriff Tom Templeton.

It wasn't.

Survivors of the building's collapse remember the lights dying suddenly and a loud boom. Then everything began to fall in on them.

Those who were saved were pulled out early.

The dead were found in various locations and ranged in age from 18 to 81. They were all from the Utica area, said LaSalle County Coroner Jody Bernard. Several had run into the restaurant thinking it would be safer than their homes.

Killed were Larry and Marian Ventrice, 49 and 50, the owners of the Milestone; Wayne Ball, 63; Bev Wood, 67; Helen Menke, 81; Carol Schultheis, 40; Michael Miller Jr., 18; and Jay Vezain, 47.

Mayor Fred Esmond said many of them were found in the basement of the tavern. No one got through the night without learning of the loss of something or someone they knew well.

"The sign on the outside of town says this is a quiet little town," said Richard Maltas, a Utica volunteer firefighter and the town's head of public works. "Well, it ain't little anymore. There's nothing left."

He had worked through the night with scarcely a break.

At least 10 survivors were pulled out of the rubble and sent to hospitals in Ottawa, Peru and Spring Valley. Most had minor injuries. One more seriously hurt victim was airlifted to OSF St. Francis Medical Center in Peoria, said Utica Fire Chief David Edgcomb.

Because of the extensive damage, many organizers marveled that more weren't hurt or displaced, said Rev. Ed Decker, pastor of Utica Baptist Church, who opened his church Tuesday night as a shelter.

The next day he realized the throngs of homeless never materialized because others opened their doors first.

"Everybody was taken in someplace," he said Wednesday morning in his nearly empty church basement.

Acts of compassion large and small abounded.

Gary Dahl, a board member of the Illinois Valley Chapter of the American Red Cross, said local grocery stores provided apples, peanut butter and candy bars to rescuers and refugees.

A nearby trucking company sent empty semitrailer trucks to ruined farms outside Utica and to nearby Granville, where 60 homes were damaged. If it rained again, Dahl said, the trucks would provide a dry space for families to store what possessions the tornado hadn't destroyed.

As reports of damage and volunteerism grew, Dahl said it was likely the storms' aftermath would wipe out the Illinois Valley Chapter's entire annual budget of $145,000.

A Web site to make donations to the relief effort--www.starvedrockrelief.org--was created almost immediately.

In Utica, those without money or homes reached out as best they could under the circumstances.

After the tornadoes had passed, Daniel Witherington, 43, a bricklayer, came out of his house, stunned and bloody from a broken window that had cut his face.

His neighbor, Rita Stewart, 75, was screaming next door, her garage destroyed, her family china blown away and her house surrounded by fallen trees.

"I was caged in," Stewart said Wednesday morning. Witherington saw other neighbors coming to her aid. He joined them.

"We dug her out," he said.

Though many were glad for survival, there was a sense of loss for what Utica had been.

Incorporated in 1867 as North Utica, the town was a bustling stop on the Illinois & Michigan Canal, and had the Blackbell Mine, famous for cement used to build the Palmer House Hilton and the Tribune Tower, said Robert "Bo" Windy, a Utica Library trustee who compiled a history of the town.

Before the tornado, Utica's most devastating disasters were a bridge collapse on July 4, 1910, that killed two people and injured dozens, and a 4-foot-deep flood on main streets in 1958.

Many of the buildings from the 1860s through the 1880s remained intact, Windy said, until Tuesday.

Joe and Dee Barrera, 58 and 51, stood around the wreckage of their 1869 three-story Victorian house Wednesday morning with little to do.

They bought the home last year and had found exactly the right historical glass widows. They put period strawberry motif wallpaper in the hallways and planned to open the home to sell furniture and dolls.

"We wanted to bring back the history of Utica," Dee Barrera said.

The house had been lifted off its foundation, and would have to be torn down, Dee Barrera said. The carriage house already was gone.

"The woodwork was perfect," she said.

Even residents whose homes were untouched were devastated by the loss around them.

Retired lock and dam operator Lee Bottomley, 66, walked out of his house after the storm in wonderment. Not a single window was broken. His house had suffered not a single scratch.

He spent Wednesday walking around his neighborhood in shock, offering encouragement. But when asked if he thought everything was going to work out, he was quiet for a moment.

"It's going to take a long time," he said.

Bottomley took a deep breath. Under a trucker's cap, he fought back tears as he looked around.

"I was born in this town," he said. "I know all of these people."


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Re: Hello From Nevada

"Gary A Foster" <gderegt@...>
 

hey David is that you that's biding on the set of valves from Gerald
Church, I do not want to bid agents some one from group.I'm just stocking up
for future needs please let me know thanks Gary A Foster Amish 54

----- Original Message -----
From: "David W. Anspach" <tmkldwwj@...>
To: <Crosley_Gang@...>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:45 AM
Subject: [Crosley_Gang] Re: Hello From Nevada


Claude;
Have you joined the Crosley Automobile Club? They have a Hot
Sheet that comes out with cars for sale on it. There are also cars
for sale in the Quarterly magazine.
Dave









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Re: engine bearings

"shannon white" <hotshot@...>
 

Does any one know what kind or if there is a market for crosley engine bearings and what sizes.
I have approached a bearing maker that is willing to make them but he wants a minimum number of sets before he will make any.If other people besides me have a need let me know.Maybe we can get some back on the market.He wanted 500.00 for a custom set but the more he makes the cheaper they get.
Shannon









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Utica: followup.

"mrcooby" <x779@...>
 

In trying to discover more about our Crosley hangouts in Utica, I learned today that Duffy's Tavern downtown, a favorite, somehow managed to survive the twister but was shifted off its foundation. Many phones are still down (the village hall and police station were damaged) so I haven't been able to learn any more.

I'm sure that they'll welcome messages of support from Crosley folk. The answering machine was back on tonight at Village Hall (I left a message there as a longtime Crosley owner and visitor), but the police still aren't answering their phones.

(When you get through, they'll answer "North Utica", which is the actual name of the village, although everyone calls it Utica.)

The Utica village email address: village@...

Mayor Esmond: (815) 667-4111
Village Hall: (815) 667-4613

One final thing: the people of Utica have been great to us Crosley folk for 29 years, and I know we here all wish them the very best at this tragic time.

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Re: engine bearings

nat sherrill <nats@...>
 

Boy, is this an interesting proposition. I have no idea of where you
are in the Crosley scheme of things but there is a GREAT need of
bearings for these engines. Rod and center main bearings are
available from Thermo-King (let me know and we can visit this issue)
but mains, particularly front and rears are simply not to be had.
There is a very large (well, in relative terms) market for end
mains. There is a question of where the shells for these bearings
would come from but many of us have some ratholed away so maybe that
isn't an issue. The majority of would be buyers are racers who would
want pretty good quality of the finished product but there certainly
is a market for good stuff.

As far as numbers go I would guess that at least 100 sets of front
and rear mains would be sld like hotcakes . . . Hell I will take at
least 6 sets just for me. If this is a serious proposal get in touch
with me at nats@.... I run a website for hmod racers on
the yahoo groups system (hmod@...) and can get some idea
of who might be interested. Do keep in touch if this is real. One
other thing . . . as the mover and shaker of an arrangement which
bought about 300 sets of high grade crankcas studs I would advise you
to be VERY wary of people who talk a good game but let you down when
it is time to come across with real money which will have to be up
front.

Thanks, Nat




Does any one know what kind or if there is a market for crosley
engine bearings and what sizes.
I have approached a bearing maker that is willing to make them but
he wants a minimum number of sets before he will make any.If other
people besides me have a need let me know.Maybe we can get some back
on the market.He wanted 500.00 for a custom set but the more he
makes the cheaper they get.
Shannon









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Re: engine bearings

"seb fontana" <speedoo51@...>
 

---I think a reasonable cost should be established and see how many
he has to make to get to that price..Looking at the crankcase I have
with bearings in it for a reference I think the bearings can be
consoladated into "halfs", since some can be used in multiple
places..Say $10.00 per half for starters?? Std, .002, .010, .020,
and maybe .030 undersize. The .002 can be matched with a Std
for .001 under..
1) Front main--Top half with oil grove and oil feed hole--can be
used in top and bottom, as is in my crankcase.
2) 2nd, 3rd, 4th main--Top half with oil groove and oil feed
hole--use in top, for bottom half see #3.
3) 2nd, 3rd, 4th Main--Bottom half, Connecting Rod top and
bottom halfs--Plain, no oil groove or feed hole.
4) Rear Main--Top half with oil groove and feed hole.
5) Rear Main--Bottom half--plain, no oil groove or feed hole.
I suppose in a pinch one could use #4 in place of #5 and #2 in
place of #3, making only 3 "halfs" that are needed..I don't like
ending up with full oil grooves everywhere as bearing area is
reduced and then rods are fed oil full time..Don't think oil pump
would appreciate it any..
So, 5 "Halfs" would take care of rod and mains..duplicate stock
as far as I can see..Aproach bearing maker with the above info and
see what the quanity would have to be to get to the set cost. Good
luck to us all, thanks for the effort..Seb.

In Crosley_Gang@..., "shannon white" <hotshot@t...>
wrote:
Does any one know what kind or if there is a market for crosley
engine bearings and what sizes.
I have approached a bearing maker that is willing to make them but
he wants a minimum number of sets before he will make any.If other
people besides me have a need let me know.Maybe we can get some back
on the market.He wanted 500.00 for a custom set but the more he
makes the cheaper they get.
Shannon









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Re: Utica: followup.

"John A. Niemann" <johnniemann1999@...>
 

Being a member of the Illinois reagon the main meeting is in sept.
and we use the baceball field west of Duffy's as our meeting
place this how ever was distroied. We will have to wate till later
in the year to determin where the meeting will take place.
As for others people gather in all the places in town
The only contact with the police and town hall is for the permit for
use of the park.
The only thing I can add is to wate an see how they reciver from
this accident.
John