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12v conversion with alternator

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

6 volt conversions of GM SI alternators are available. They even hava a pulley that is right for Crosley fan belts. Suppliers of parts for Model A Fords sell those alternators. Also, believe Amazon sells them. Your use of rubber hose to overcome the offset between the alternator & the water pump is genius. The only challenge is center drilling the armature of the alternator to accept a 1/4"-7/16 head bolt. Thank you for sharing.
Don

On June 26, 2019 at 6:37 AM Hellbs <hollywoodhellberg@...> wrote:

Ok thanks

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 9:49 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
You will find both names in your club roster. In addition Barry is on the club web page under parts suppliers. 

On Jun 25, 2019 10:16 PM, Hellbs < hollywoodhellberg@...> wrote:
Do you happen to have contact information for either of these gentlemen?  I dont think we will be able to attend nationals.


 


Re: Looking for a carb

Hellbs
 

Ok thanks


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 9:49 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
You will find both names in your club roster. In addition Barry is on the club web page under parts suppliers. 

On Jun 25, 2019 10:16 PM, Hellbs <hollywoodhellberg@...> wrote:
Do you happen to have contact information for either of these gentlemen?  I dont think we will be able to attend nationals.


Re: Starter questions

Andy Farley
 

I was curious about the Farmall starter drive. I ordered one to see if it will work for my 48 station wagon. I needed to replace the Bendix anyway. I'll let you know in about a week. 


Re: 12v conversion with alternator

Andy Farley
 

attached is a picture of the alternator set up. Don't know what it came off of. It is a delco 10si as far as I can tell. It appears that there was originally a sheet metal cover over where the 7/16 bolt screws in. Someone drilled a large hole through the cover.


Re: Clutch adjustments?

Mike S
 

Jacked the car up so I could take a look underneath (gosh you've got to raise them a bunch to get under them....) Lots of slack in the clutch set up it appears.  Took 3 turns off the cable adjustment that seems to have helped.  I'll have to spend some more quality time under it to see if there are other opportunities.  


Re: Looking for a carb

Spock Arnold
 

You will find both names in your club roster. In addition Barry is on the club web page under parts suppliers. 

On Jun 25, 2019 10:16 PM, Hellbs <hollywoodhellberg@...> wrote:
Do you happen to have contact information for either of these gentlemen?  I dont think we will be able to attend nationals.


Re: Tires ?

Andy Drake
 

Tires come in a couple of different sizes and constructions. Many owners use off the shelf trailer tires in two sizes: 480x12 and 530x12, depending on availability, the desired authenticity, and how close to original they want the car to "feel." For the most part, these are bias-ply tires that require really high tire pressures and roll like the car is on rails -- meaning, really stiff. 530x12 is more substantial looking, and 480x12 appears thinner (because they are).

Other owners want modern steel belted radial tires, and those come in mostly metric 12" sizes. The sidewalls are quite a bit more noticeable and are mostly blackwall, They also look like something you'd buy now and probably have more aggressive tread versus the period designs of the trailer tires. By and large, if you put them on, they handle more similar to a modern car and don't feel quite as punishing to drive. They typically track more evenly and are generally more forgiving.  That said, many owners go for the more factory look of the bias-ply if they aren't putting tons of miles on the car and want that authentic appearance -- I have cars with both, but would generally go with radials if given the choice.

Be sure to get tubes as Crosley rims can slowly leak over time as they do not have sealed centers. Our long time tire vendor, Tony Smith,  can help with all this and even reserve a set of tires in advance if you pick them up in Wauseon. Awesome guy to work with!


Re: Looking for a carb

Hellbs
 

Do you happen to have contact information for either of these gentlemen?  I dont think we will be able to attend nationals.


Re: Looking for a carb

Spock Arnold
 

I would guess your friend does not know about the Tillitson carb for the Crosley.  It is likely that the transverse tube has already been bent.   I would suggest you contact one of the Crosley vendors to see if they will rebuild it correctly.  But before you do, if I am not mistaken, this is not the correct carb for the pre war engine anyway.  Id suggest contacting Al Calvin to see if he has any.  Your best bet is to come to the National show to look for one.  Barry Seel may also be able to help.  
In addition Id suggest you make contact with your closest Club member to see if he or she can help you.  

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 05:47:33 PM PDT, Hellbs <hollywoodhellberg@...> wrote:


Hello all,
After posting last time inquiring about a carburetor rebuild kit for our '39 coupe convertible, we have run into other problems.  I had a friend who does a lot of work on carbs for jet-skis take a look at it and had some problems.  He got is partially apart and cleaned it really well.  Had lots of soot and other buildup from gas decades ago.  He said he could only separate the carb about an inch and something was catching internally and was afraid if he tried to hard to separate it, something would break and be un-repairable.  We also have a very old book with about 6 pages all about Crosley maintenance.  We were attempting to adjust the set adjustment screws as the manual states but they are seized up as well.  In his past experiences, breaking those loose also causes future fuel leaks.  Long story short, the engine runs fine anything above idle, if we let the RPMs drop to idle speed, it dies.  Thought that a good cleaning would help clear this problem up and run better but it didn't.  He believe there is something else in the carb not working properly. 

So with his recommendation, I am here looking for another carb in good working order, or another carb to use for parts to fix this one if we break something when trying to fully separate the carb.  Attached is a picture of the carb currently on the car.

If anyone can help please respond to this post with contact information and myself or my dad will get in touch.  My grandpa (who is now gone) bought the car new and we really wanted to get it drive-able before he past but ran out of time.  So we would really like to get it up and going before we loose to much more time so my dad, his siblings, and rest of our family can enjoy this fun little car.

Thank you very much in advance!
 -Matt H.


Re: Looking for a carb

Richard Helm
 

From the picture this looks like the Tillotson DY9C. If so, you need to remove the idle tube from the carburetor before trying to take it apart. I think that’s the screw with a spring under it that shows up in the upper right corner of your picture. That idle tube goes thru the carb on an angle and you will ruin it if you try to get the carb apart without removing the tube first. If you find the tube to be damaged you can get a new one from one of our Crosley vendors.

Rich


Re: Looking for a carb

Hellbs
 

forgot to add the picture...


Looking for a carb

Hellbs
 

Hello all,
After posting last time inquiring about a carburetor rebuild kit for our '39 coupe convertible, we have run into other problems.  I had a friend who does a lot of work on carbs for jet-skis take a look at it and had some problems.  He got is partially apart and cleaned it really well.  Had lots of soot and other buildup from gas decades ago.  He said he could only separate the carb about an inch and something was catching internally and was afraid if he tried to hard to separate it, something would break and be un-repairable.  We also have a very old book with about 6 pages all about Crosley maintenance.  We were attempting to adjust the set adjustment screws as the manual states but they are seized up as well.  In his past experiences, breaking those loose also causes future fuel leaks.  Long story short, the engine runs fine anything above idle, if we let the RPMs drop to idle speed, it dies.  Thought that a good cleaning would help clear this problem up and run better but it didn't.  He believe there is something else in the carb not working properly. 

So with his recommendation, I am here looking for another carb in good working order, or another carb to use for parts to fix this one if we break something when trying to fully separate the carb.  Attached is a picture of the carb currently on the car.

If anyone can help please respond to this post with contact information and myself or my dad will get in touch.  My grandpa (who is now gone) bought the car new and we really wanted to get it drive-able before he past but ran out of time.  So we would really like to get it up and going before we loose to much more time so my dad, his siblings, and rest of our family can enjoy this fun little car.

Thank you very much in advance!
 -Matt H.


Re: 12v conversion with alternator

L.E. Hardee
 

I, for one, would like to see a picture of your alternator set up.  Do you know what the alternator originally came off of? 


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:51 PM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
I figured out how to make it work. I took a piece of heavy heater hose and attached one end to the water pump. I split the other end, inserted a 7/16 socket and mounted that end to the 7/16 head bolt that comes out of the back end of the alternator shaft. I put a hose clamp around the section of hose where I inserted the socket. This holds the socket in place on the 7/16 bolt. It's solid yet flexible and drives the water pump perfectly without any leaks. Yahoo, going to Mel's Diner in Auburn CA for cruise night tomorrow night. 


Re: 12v conversion with alternator

Andy Farley
 

I figured out how to make it work. I took a piece of heavy heater hose and attached one end to the water pump. I split the other end, inserted a 7/16 socket and mounted that end to the 7/16 head bolt that comes out of the back end of the alternator shaft. I put a hose clamp around the section of hose where I inserted the socket. This holds the socket in place on the 7/16 bolt. It's solid yet flexible and drives the water pump perfectly without any leaks. Yahoo, going to Mel's Diner in Auburn CA for cruise night tomorrow night. 


Re: Tires ?

Spock Arnold
 

Yes bring them . There is a demand for original matched sets in good condition.  If you want to you can sell them in the trading post!

On Jun 25, 2019 7:07 AM, "Ron D." <rdole417@...> wrote:
Spock, I threw 5 regular and 2 snow tires on my tire pile, My 49 sedan that I inherited from my dad had what may not be the original, but that period tires on it. With tubes, the 4 mounted tires held air.  There was also 2 unmounted snows in the back. I bought 5 new radials for it, so I threw the old ones on the tire pile, never thinking that anyone would have a use for them. I am coming to Wauseon, so if someone is interested in these, send me a message.
Ron


Re: Tires ?

Spock Arnold
 

Well it is hard to find nice 450s and they are really useful to me for showing.  

On Jun 25, 2019 7:07 AM, "Ron D." <rdole417@...> wrote:
Spock, I threw 5 regular and 2 snow tires on my tire pile, My 49 sedan that I inherited from my dad had what may not be the original, but that period tires on it. With tubes, the 4 mounted tires held air.  There was also 2 unmounted snows in the back. I bought 5 new radials for it, so I threw the old ones on the tire pile, never thinking that anyone would have a use for them. I am coming to Wauseon, so if someone is interested in these, send me a message.
Ron


Re: Tires ?

Mike S
 

The old spare I pulled off (I have my own tire changing machine I bought out of a gas station that was being converted to a "convenience store") has a bad cut on the side wall, but I think it would still hold air and not be noticeable when mounted on the car as a spare.  I'll bring it along to Wauseon instead of throwing it away.  

Regarding the others, it would be nice to have 2 more original type tires, but I'm not really a concours kind of a guy.  I guess we'll see.  


Re: Tires ?

Ron D.
 

Spock, I threw 5 regular and 2 snow tires on my tire pile, My 49 sedan that I inherited from my dad had what may not be the original, but that period tires on it. With tubes, the 4 mounted tires held air.  There was also 2 unmounted snows in the back. I bought 5 new radials for it, so I threw the old ones on the tire pile, never thinking that anyone would have a use for them. I am coming to Wauseon, so if someone is interested in these, send me a message.
Ron


Re: Tires ?

Spock Arnold
 


Mike, Tony Smith offers a variety of types and qualities. You can select from them.  They are at best 480 x 12.  The 450btire is made but tough to find and expensive.   Please keep your old originals as they have valut to those of us that do concours class restorations and need them.  They are not safe to drive on but are for show.   I for one would buy good originals to show with

On Jun 24, 2019 11:39 PM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:
Our '48 wagon came with 2 sets of tires.....One set of 480 x 12 trailer tires on trailer rims....and one set of what appears to be original 4.5 x 12 tires.  The pair on the front must be reproductions of the Goodyear super cushions, as they have virtually no miles on them,...... but the rubber looks old like they were old NOS tires (no sign of age cracking).  The 2 tires on the back are originals, but are nearly worn out.  

I see a vendor who advertises in the Quarterly offers tires.  What types does he have?  I've sent an email to them to inquire.  The spare tire is an old original (also a goodyear) but is no good.  I need to put a new tire on it & want to know what the options are.
Mike S


Tires ?

Mike S
 

Our '48 wagon came with 2 sets of tires.....One set of 480 x 12 trailer tires on trailer rims....and one set of what appears to be original 4.5 x 12 tires.  The pair on the front must be reproductions of the Goodyear super cushions, as they have virtually no miles on them,...... but the rubber looks old like they were old NOS tires (no sign of age cracking).  The 2 tires on the back are originals, but are nearly worn out.  

I see a vendor who advertises in the Quarterly offers tires.  What types does he have?  I've sent an email to them to inquire.  The spare tire is an old original (also a goodyear) but is no good.  I need to put a new tire on it & want to know what the options are.
Mike S