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Re: Wauseon this week

Spock Arnold
 

Nope, come here and talk to Jeff and Janyne, we will work it out.

On Jul 9, 2019 12:26 PM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:
Sonya says the check hasn't cleared that we sent in for the registration.  Should we be worried?
Mike S


Wauseon this week

Mike S
 

Sonya says the check hasn't cleared that we sent in for the registration.  Should we be worried?
Mike S


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Dennis Wilkinson
 

Might check into that! Might be cheaper than my mistakes!

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vern Barker
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 6:27 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

One could take spindle to a automotive machine shop to have fit using a connecting rod machine.

Done many that way.

Ven

 

From: A50CROSLEYTRK via Groups.Io

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

MSC Industrial Supply Co.     shows them in the on line and sure so do many others. Just have to pick the proper size. I guessed at the two possible sizes.

           bye      Robert

 

In a message dated 7/8/2019 1:18:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, donald-gritti@... writes:

 

Adjustable reamers are expensive. McMaster Carr Supply should have them. Try rental facilities or as you suggester remove the axle & have a machinist fit the bushings.
Don

On July 6, 2019 at 8:50 PM Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.

 

Rich Williams

 

On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.

 


 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Vern Barker <romardb@...>
 

One could take spindle to a automotive machine shop to have fit using a connecting rod machine.
Done many that way.
Ven
 

From: A50CROSLEYTRK via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 5:38 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport
 
MSC Industrial Supply Co.     shows them in the on line and sure so do many others. Just have to pick the proper size. I guessed at the two possible sizes.
           bye      Robert

In a message dated 7/8/2019 1:18:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, donald-gritti@... writes:
 
Adjustable reamers are expensive. McMaster Carr Supply should have them. Try rental facilities or as you suggester remove the axle & have a machinist fit the bushings.
Don

On July 6, 2019 at 8:50 PM Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.


Rich Williams


On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:



Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.

 


 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

A50CROSLEYTRK@...
 

MSC Industrial Supply Co.     shows them in the on line and sure so do many others. Just have to pick the proper size. I guessed at the two possible sizes.
           bye      Robert

In a message dated 7/8/2019 1:18:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, donald-gritti@... writes:

Adjustable reamers are expensive. McMaster Carr Supply should have them. Try rental facilities or as you suggester remove the axle & have a machinist fit the bushings.
Don

On July 6, 2019 at 8:50 PM Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.


Rich Williams


On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:



Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.



 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Adjustable reamers are expensive. McMaster Carr Supply should have them. Try rental facilities or as you suggester remove the axle & have a machinist fit the bushings.
Don

On July 6, 2019 at 8:50 PM Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.

 

Rich Williams

 

On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.


 

 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Richard Williams
 

I will look for my catalog and let you know.

Rich Williams

 

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From: Dennis Wilkinson
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:50 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.

 

Rich Williams

 

On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.

 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Dennis Wilkinson
 

Sounds good, do you have any info on where to get a reamer like that?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Williams via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:19 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.

 

Rich Williams

 

On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Dennis Wilkinson
 

Thanks, I guess for now I will have to assume it has the original axel.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Bollman
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 6:20 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] king pin replacement on Super Sport

 

51 SS will have 5/8" KingPins if it has the original axel. 


Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Jim Bollman
 

51 SS will have 5/8" KingPins if it has the original axel. 


Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Richard Williams
 

Do you use the chock? It helps. LOL
Rich W

On Friday, July 5, 2019, 07:27:39 PM PDT, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:


Bud,

The "TEE" at the bottom, is the high speed mixture screw. The screw on the top, is the idle mixture screw. The screw on the side (throttle shaft) is the idle speed adjustment.

Glad that you've got it back to normal, you're most welcome!

Butch

On 7/5/2019 4:23 PM, Bud Martin via Groups.Io wrote:
It's a Tilly - ??I must of had the points set wrong - after doing some adjusting and playing with the carb it runs well and starts like it use to in the morn. ??Thanks for all your help

ps the tee at the bottom must be the fuel mixture??


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Re: king pin replacement on Super Sport

Richard Williams
 

I have an adjustable reamer. I measure the King Pin and set the reamer for just .oo1 larger. Be careful to not go too far over.

Rich Williams

On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 02:11:00 PM PDT, Dennis Wilkinson <denkath@...> wrote:


Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.


king pin replacement on Super Sport

Dennis Wilkinson
 

Hi: I have a fair amount of play in the pass side king pin, both up and down and side to side on my 1951 Super Sport VC. I think I can get the old bushings out and put new ones in, but do they need to be reamed for alignment? This part bothers me, as need special reamer and could mess it up. Also how do I determine which size pins I have? Measuring the outside caps seems to be about an inch. No help as they appear to come in 1/2" or 5/8". Is this something I should take to a machine shop to get done?  Does not look like too big of deal to remove front axle. Would like some opinions before I tackle this project  Thanks: Dennis.


Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Butch
 

Bud,

The "TEE" at the bottom, is the high speed mixture screw. The screw on the top, is the idle mixture screw. The screw on the side (throttle shaft) is the idle speed adjustment.

Glad that you've got it back to normal, you're most welcome!

Butch

On 7/5/2019 4:23 PM, Bud Martin via Groups.Io wrote:
It's a Tilly - ??I must of had the points set wrong - after doing some adjusting and playing with the carb it runs well and starts like it use to in the morn. ??Thanks for all your help

ps the tee at the bottom must be the fuel mixture??


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Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Bud Martin
 

It's a Tilly -  I must of had the points set wrong - after doing some adjusting and playing with the carb it runs well and starts like it use to in the morn.  Thanks for all your help

ps the tee at the bottom must be the fuel mixture??

On Friday, July 5, 2019, 3:54:32 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


This should help narrow down if is a Tilly or a Carter, still several variations of both but I think Butch hit the problem early on and you need to adjust your choke so it closes all the way. If you have a helper have them put their hand over the top of the carb while you crank it and see if it will fire.


Tillotson

Carter




A couple of different ways. Easiest is, look the carb over well, it should say either Carter or Tillotson on it somewhere. The Tillotson also has a model number stamped into the side.

The Carter had the model number on a tag, most of which a gone.

There is a difference in the size of the air horn, but without already knowing the difference, that's not much help.

The Tillotson, has a one piece, cast alloy body, with a cover plate, and two mixture adjusting screws, diagonally across from each other on the carb. One on top, the other on the bottom.

The Carter has a cast iron base, an alloy body, a cover plate and a separate air horn, that is attached by two screws.

Hopefully, that helps.

Butch



Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Jim Bollman
 

This should help narrow down if is a Tilly or a Carter, still several variations of both but I think Butch hit the problem early on and you need to adjust your choke so it closes all the way. If you have a helper have them put their hand over the top of the carb while you crank it and see if it will fire.


Tillotson

Carter




A couple of different ways. Easiest is, look the carb over well, it should say either Carter or Tillotson on it somewhere. The Tillotson also has a model number stamped into the side.

The Carter had the model number on a tag, most of which a gone.

There is a difference in the size of the air horn, but without already knowing the difference, that's not much help.

The Tillotson, has a one piece, cast alloy body, with a cover plate, and two mixture adjusting screws, diagonally across from each other on the carb. One on top, the other on the bottom.

The Carter has a cast iron base, an alloy body, a cover plate and a separate air horn, that is attached by two screws.

Hopefully, that helps.

Butch



Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Bud Martin
 

Thanks so much     bud

On Friday, July 5, 2019, 3:18:46 PM EDT, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:


Howdy Bud,

A couple of different ways. Easiest is, look the carb over well, it should say either Carter or Tillotson on it somewhere. The Tillotson also has a model number stamped into the side.

The Carter had the model number on a tag, most of which a gone.

There is a difference in the size of the air horn, but without already knowing the difference, that's not much help.

The Tillotson, has a one piece, cast alloy body, with a cover plate, and two mixture adjusting screws, diagonally across from each other on the carb. One on top, the other on the bottom.

The Carter has a cast iron base, an alloy body, a cover plate and a separate air horn, that is attached by two screws.

Hopefully, that helps.

Butch

On 7/5/2019 1:10 PM, Bud Martin via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for the info- Will be away for the meet- also how do I tell what type of carb I have?


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

Howdy Bud,

Sorry for the delay, life sometimes gets in the way of fun stuff!

The spark plug gap is .025, the point gap is .020 to .024, with a dwell setting of 44 degrees. The point gap and changing it, will affect your timing.

Will you and your Crosley, be at Wauseon? We will be helping folks and instructing as we can.

Butch

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Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Butch
 

Howdy Bud,

A couple of different ways. Easiest is, look the carb over well, it should say either Carter or Tillotson on it somewhere. The Tillotson also has a model number stamped into the side.

The Carter had the model number on a tag, most of which a gone.

There is a difference in the size of the air horn, but without already knowing the difference, that's not much help.

The Tillotson, has a one piece, cast alloy body, with a cover plate, and two mixture adjusting screws, diagonally across from each other on the carb. One on top, the other on the bottom.

The Carter has a cast iron base, an alloy body, a cover plate and a separate air horn, that is attached by two screws.

Hopefully, that helps.

Butch

On 7/5/2019 1:10 PM, Bud Martin via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for the info- Will be away for the meet- also how do I tell what type of carb I have?


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

Howdy Bud,

Sorry for the delay, life sometimes gets in the way of fun stuff!

The spark plug gap is .025, the point gap is .020 to .024, with a dwell setting of 44 degrees. The point gap and changing it, will affect your timing.

Will you and your Crosley, be at Wauseon? We will be helping folks and instructing as we can.

Butch

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Re: '47 light blue Crosley

Donna Bomia
 

That's a great idea. Ty so much. I'll be rounding family and friends up to possibly come to the show next week.
Ty again & Happy 4th of July.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019, 11:12 AM paul <bikertrash@... wrote:
Donna,  this will sound silly at first but if you have not yet wiped the Crosley off DON'T at least until you get a couple of pictures, preferably don't at all. whether you keep or sell it, a "dirty as found" picture is like an album of a child growing up. layers of dust are the provenance and add to the stories one loves to tell when being questioned about their little gem. in fact, you mentioned a barn, snap a picture of the barn, garage, shed, whatever to show where the blue Crosley has been resting and waiting. if you get to Wauseon and are not shy about talking to folks I'd bet you can find a ride or two in a Crosley. the experience will tie you even closer to your father's memory, you will be reminded of his sense of humor and individuality several times over.  thin skinned and uppity people are banned from owning a Crosley. a Crosley truly is  "A FUN CAR,"  oops, I mean "A FINE CAR" it says so right on the fancy trim.   Paul Rinehart

On 7/4/2019 12:49 AM, Donna Bomia wrote:
I think I Love Y'all,already. 🤗

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 5:45 PM Gabriel Haddad <super51.g100@... wrote:
Donna, if you're not that far away, come visit and take in the experience. Great people and great fun. Maybe you'll change your mind about selling it.😉




Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Bud Martin
 

Thanks for the info- Will be away for the meet- also how do I tell what type of carb I have?


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

Howdy Bud,

Sorry for the delay, life sometimes gets in the way of fun stuff!

The spark plug gap is .025, the point gap is .020 to .024, with a dwell setting of 44 degrees. The point gap and changing it, will affect your timing.

Will you and your Crosley, be at Wauseon? We will be helping folks and instructing as we can.

Butch

On 7/3/2019 1:20 PM, Bud Martin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Butch -
At this point the car does start but it sometimes struggles to stay running - not sure what carb. I have - maybe you could let me know how to find out also is there a carb setting that I should be aware of. The point setting in the manual is 025 does that sound correct?

Bud ??

ps love my 47

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019, 7:02:41 PM EDT, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:



Howdy Bud,

Please, better define you starting problems.

Long cranking, without firing? Will fire, but not keep running? Will try
to run, but dies when you release the starter?

Also, what carburetor have you got, Carter or Tillotson?

More information, please.

Butch

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