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Re: CC weight distribution

L.E. Hardee
 

I would put the front of the car forward for sure.  Then as I loaded the car on the trailer, you should be able to sense the approximate balance point due to the tilt of the trailer.  I would suggest you go as far forward as you can to put as much tongue weight as possible without overloading your tow vehicle.  You don't want your truck or car to drag bottom in the rear but other than that, tongue weight keeps the trailer from getting "squirrelly". 

One of the scariest events I have had on the road was towing a Crosley back to NC from Georgia.  I had stuffed a bunch of parts in the back of the station wagon that I didn't realize messed up my usual load distribution.  The 1969 El Camino was also full of Crosley parts so it was sagging down and I didn't realize that the trailer was tail heavy.  On the interstate a semi passed me and set up a sway.  That Crosley and the trailer pulled me all over both lanes for about a mile before I could get stopped.  The trailer was up on one wheel and and then the other as it whipped me back and forth.  It is a real wonder that I didn't flip both the El Camino and the Crosley trailer that day.


On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:37 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:
Anyone know the weight distribution on a CC Wagon? Is it 60% on the front wheels, or ??

I’m thinking about the best way to load my car on a small trailer without putting too much weight on the hitch. I have some forward/back range to play with as I balance it. 

Thanks!

Park

'47 light blue Crosley

Donna Bomia
 

I'm trying to get a ball park figure on a '47 light blue Crosley with radio. It's a 2 door and is in fair condition. I'll be pulling it out the barn within the next few weeks so, pictures will be coming but in the meantime anyone have a ballpark figure?
Ty Totally Clueless 🤗

Re: Starting Problems in Morning

mcgladdery3@...
 

What type of gas are you using. I use AV100 my 47 pick-up starts right up.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io <Crosley-Gang@groups.io> On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:21 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io; Jim Bollman <Jim@...>
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Starting Problems in Morning

 

How to start a Crosley? My engine has a Carter WO carb. When Barry Seel built my engine he rebuilt the carb. All the choke / gas pedal combinations I've tried won't start the engine cold unless I give a squirt of starting fluid. Would someone give a "fix" or the proper starting sequence for the Carter carb?
Don Gritti


On July 1, 2019 at 9:44 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

On my Tilly I usually full choke till it fires then push into a little less than half choke and hit the starter again if it doesn't catch the next time repeat. It is easy to flood.



On Jul 1, 2019, at 9:19 PM, crosleyshortsport < crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

 

Bud,  When "cold", if you have a tillotson carb, you must fully choke it to start, and immediatly push the choke in once started. 

 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM Bud Martin via Groups.Io <bud_martin2001= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

My 47 sedan has a issue starting in the morning after sitting overnight - It rums well once I do get it started - did a tune-up - it has a spark and when pulling the fuel line it pumps

Any suggestions  Bud



 


 


 

Re: engine serial number

Jim Bollman
 

Your SN still puts it as a June 1948 production, so still may be the original engine core. All 48s started life as the Tin CoBra engine.

On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Saltsgaver, Mike <Mike.Saltsgaver@...> wrote:

Thanks for the information.  Our serial number is 47495.  With your comments in mind, it’s possible this engine may be a replacement rather than a conversion???


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Re: engine serial number

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

Thanks for the information.  Our serial number is 47495.  With your comments in mind, it’s possible this engine may be a replacement rather than a conversion???



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CC weight distribution

parkhunter@...
 

Anyone know the weight distribution on a CC Wagon? Is it 60% on the front wheels, or ??

I’m thinking about the best way to load my car on a small trailer without putting too much weight on the hitch. I have some forward/back range to play with as I balance it. 

Thanks!

Park

Re: Starting Problems in Morning

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

How to start a Crosley? My engine has a Carter WO carb. When Barry Seel built my engine he rebuilt the carb. All the choke / gas pedal combinations I've tried won't start the engine cold unless I give a squirt of starting fluid. Would someone give a "fix" or the proper starting sequence for the Carter carb?
Don Gritti

On July 1, 2019 at 9:44 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

On my Tilly I usually full choke till it fires then push into a little less than half choke and hit the starter again if it doesn't catch the next time repeat. It is easy to flood.

On Jul 1, 2019, at 9:19 PM, crosleyshortsport < crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Bud,  When "cold", if you have a tillotson carb, you must fully choke it to start, and immediatly push the choke in once started. 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM Bud Martin via Groups.Io <bud_martin2001= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My 47 sedan has a issue starting in the morning after sitting overnight - It rums well once I do get it started - did a tune-up - it has a spark and when pulling the fuel line it pumps

Any suggestions  Bud






 

 

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

Andy Farley
 

Thank You all very much!

Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Jim Bollman
 

On my Tilly I usually full choke till it fires then push into a little less than half choke and hit the starter again if it doesn't catch the next time repeat. It is easy to flood.

On Jul 1, 2019, at 9:19 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Bud,  When "cold", if you have a tillotson carb, you must fully choke it to start, and immediatly push the choke in once started. 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM Bud Martin via Groups.Io <bud_martin2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My 47 sedan has a issue starting in the morning after sitting overnight - It rums well once I do get it started - did a tune-up - it has a spark and when pulling the fuel line it pumps

Any suggestions  Bud





Re: Starting Problems in Morning

crosleyshortsport
 

Bud,  When "cold", if you have a tillotson carb, you must fully choke it to start, and immediatly push the choke in once started. 


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM Bud Martin via Groups.Io <bud_martin2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My 47 sedan has a issue starting in the morning after sitting overnight - It rums well once I do get it started - did a tune-up - it has a spark and when pulling the fuel line it pumps

Any suggestions  Bud




Re: engine serial number

Jim Bollman
 

There is no direct date of manufacture vs motor number list that we have found. The range of engine numbers for 1948 were 1/48 to 1/49 - 28804 to 62725. The "New Look" 48 1/2 begins with #CC46175 with the last being around CC-61256 for around 15,000 48 1/2 which was roughly half of the 48 production. So a good guess is engine numbers for 48 1/2 started around engine number 45700 give or take. yours is close if your Crosley is an early 48 1/2 it could be the original engine converted from CoBra to CIBA block. Best we can tell the 48 1/2 production started sometime in June of 1948 even though it was announced earlier.

Confused yet?

Jim...

On Jul 1, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:

I was looking for, but didn't find, a list of the engine serial numbers by year.  The motor in our 48 1/2 is 43151 (w/ cast block).  Any idea when it was made?
Mike S

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

crosleyshortsport
 

Here is a photo of both ends


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 6:02 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
if inner cable is broken, get the top half out from behind the dash and with needle nose pliers, try to pull out the broken piece from the lower end of the cable. 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:46 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Yes, you need to disconnect from both ends to get both pieces out.

On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:

So if the inner cable is broken, I'm guessing that you must remove the cable from the transmission to remove the broken piece. Would that be correct?

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

L.E. Hardee
 

if inner cable is broken, get the top half out from behind the dash and with needle nose pliers, try to pull out the broken piece from the lower end of the cable. 


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:46 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Yes, you need to disconnect from both ends to get both pieces out.

On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:

So if the inner cable is broken, I'm guessing that you must remove the cable from the transmission to remove the broken piece. Would that be correct?

engine serial number

Mike S
 

I was looking for, but didn't find, a list of the engine serial numbers by year.  The motor in our 48 1/2 is 43151 (w/ cast block).  Any idea when it was made?
Mike S

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

Jim Bollman
 

Yes, you need to disconnect from both ends to get both pieces out.

On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:

So if the inner cable is broken, I'm guessing that you must remove the cable from the transmission to remove the broken piece. Would that be correct?

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

Andy Farley
 

So if the inner cable is broken, I'm guessing that you must remove the cable from the transmission to remove the broken piece. Would that be correct?

Starting Problems in Morning

Bud Martin
 

My 47 sedan has a issue starting in the morning after sitting overnight - It rums well once I do get it started - did a tune-up - it has a spark and when pulling the fuel line it pumps

Any suggestions Bud

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

L.E. Hardee
 

The inner speedometer cable removes from the top only.  You disconnect the cable under the dash at the speedometer and just pull the inner cable out.  The outer cable is attached at the transmission by a clamp held on by one bolt.  After removing the outer cable, the speedometer gear can be removed for inspection or replacement.  The inner cable goes back in from the top side under the dash.  My experience was that the inner cable goes in easy until you get to the last few inches.  I had to twist the cable and push repeatedly until I got the right combination for the cable to insert itself into the speedometer gear.  The outer cable has a hard bend near the transmission to miss the car floor.  This is where most cables break.  That was such a problem on the VC's that a guide was added to clamp over the outer cable to maintain a minimum radius to reduce the stress on the inner cable.  A lot of people just drill a hole in the VC transmission hump and route the cable straight up to the back of the speedometer without bending under the floor and going into the engine compartment. 

When you replace the inner cable, most mechanics suggest you only lube the lower 1/3 of it.  If you lube the top of the cable, the excess grease can drip out on your legs as you drive. 


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:31 PM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
Ok, I'm stuck., My speedometer doesn't work and I can't figure out how to remove the speedo cable at the transmission. Initially the speedo jumped then stopped working. Just trying to fix it. 

Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

A jump might mean a bad thing.  Many old speedometers have a brass driven member into which the cable inserts into.  Over time the lubrication dries out and that driven member tries to stick in it’s bore.  The speedo cable will start to wrap up, storing a lot of torsional energy.  If your lucky, the cable breaks…..if not, the brass driven member will finally break free from being stuck and will “over spin” the speedo & will break the shaft onto which the needle is attached.  I’ve had this happen a couple of times on Studebakers & Kaisers.  Both times the speedo put out a loud squeal & the needled jumped around but it broke before I could get pulled off the side of the road.



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Re: Speedometer cable into transmission

Barry Smedley
 

Take the cover off of the shifter all you need is a 7/16 wrench, you can get I from underneath also once you get the bolt and clamp off you might have to tug on it a bit.

 

   Barry smedley

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Farley
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] Speedometer cable into transmission

 

Ok, I'm stuck., My speedometer doesn't work and I can't figure out how to remove the speedo cable at the transmission. Initially the speedo jumped then stopped working. Just trying to fix it. 

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