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Re: STD Piston Size

Butch
 

Not a tin block (COBRA), but it is a cast block (CIBA). The rings and the valves remain the same.

Butch

On 2/20/2020 3:33 PM, nobadrivers wrote:
This is the engine I have in my 1947 Sedan.  This is not the tin engine correct?  I need a upper compression piston ring and an exhaust valve just to get it going again.


Re: STD Piston Size

nobadrivers
 

This is the engine I have in my 1947 Sedan.  This is not the tin engine correct?  I need a upper compression piston ring and an exhaust valve just to get it going again. 


Re: STD Piston Size

Butch
 

No, those were the COBRA (tin) blocks. Same bore though, although some of those used shorter, 3 ring pistons.

Butch

On 2/20/2020 12:54 PM, Mike S wrote:
Were there any cast iron blocks in '47?


Re: STD Piston Size

L.E. Hardee
 

Ciba retrofits for leaking Cobras.  I believe pistons were the same size though.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:54 PM Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:
Were there any cast iron blocks in '47?


Re: STD Piston Size

Mike S
 

Were there any cast iron blocks in '47?


Re: STD Piston Size

nobadrivers
 

Thank you Butch!


Re: STD Piston Size

Butch
 

The cylinder bore is 2.500, the piston is approximately 2.496 or 2.497, at this moment, I neither recall nor have a reference.

Butch

On 2/20/2020 8:18 AM, nobadrivers wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the size of the standard size piston is for the 1947 cast iron block engine?


STD Piston Size

nobadrivers
 

Can anyone tell me what the size of the standard size piston is for the 1947 cast iron block engine?


Re: Valve clearance

Andy Farley
 

That's pretty much what I did today. I used the specs that Dave Edwards gave me. .004-.006 for intake and .007-.009 for exhaust and stayed on the loose side. I also put on a Braje cam cover. Should make it a little quieter. I think it will work out well. I'll fire it up tommorow so that it has time for the gasket sealer to cure. Thank  You all for your input. I love this little car.


Re: Valve clearance

Jim Bollman
 

Unless you're going for 100% original, an aluminum valve cover will quiet down the valve clatter a lot.

Jim...

On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

My general practice is, use the mid spec as my low limit and add 0.002 as my high limit. Loose valves are noisy, tight valves burn.

As negligent as many Crosley owners are about maintenance, error on the loose side. The increase in noise and the decrease in performance is negligible, in the overall scheme of Crosley.

Butch

On 2/18/2020 4:48 PM, Steve wrote:
While I like the idea of having them at spec, I am reminded of my Ford Pinto.  At 30,000 miles the dealer provided the recommended service and adjusted the valve clearance. At 39,000 I had burned valves and had to replace the head.  The next Ford mechanic I spoke with said, "Let 'em rattle."  Moral of the story, a little noise is better than no noise. I think I would err on the high side of the spec.  I'll let Barry, Butch or Dale be a higher authority on this 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "seb fontana via Groups.Io" <speedoo51@...>
Date: 2/18/20 3:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Valve clearance

I lost a .015 shim once and it got noisy; while you at at it I would put them in spec.
_._,_.


Re: Valve clearance

Butch
 

My general practice is, use the mid spec as my low limit and add 0.002 as my high limit. Loose valves are noisy, tight valves burn.

As negligent as many Crosley owners are about maintenance, error on the loose side. The increase in noise and the decrease in performance is negligible, in the overall scheme of Crosley.

Butch

On 2/18/2020 4:48 PM, Steve wrote:
While I like the idea of having them at spec, I am reminded of my Ford Pinto.  At 30,000 miles the dealer provided the recommended service and adjusted the valve clearance. At 39,000 I had burned valves and had to replace the head.  The next Ford mechanic I spoke with said, "Let 'em rattle."  Moral of the story, a little noise is better than no noise. I think I would err on the high side of the spec.  I'll let Barry, Butch or Dale be a higher authority on this 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "seb fontana via Groups.Io" <speedoo51@...>
Date: 2/18/20 3:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Valve clearance

I lost a .015 shim once and it got noisy; while you at at it I would put them in spec.
_._,_.


Re: Valve clearance

Steve
 

While I like the idea of having them at spec, I am reminded of my Ford Pinto.  At 30,000 miles the dealer provided the recommended service and adjusted the valve clearance. At 39,000 I had burned valves and had to replace the head.  The next Ford mechanic I spoke with said, "Let 'em rattle."  Moral of the story, a little noise is better than no noise. I think I would err on the high side of the spec.  I'll let Barry, Butch or Dale be a higher authority on this 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "seb fontana via Groups.Io" <speedoo51@...>
Date: 2/18/20 3:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Valve clearance

I lost a .015 shim once and it got noisy; while you at at it I would put them in spec.


Re: Valve clearance

seb fontana
 

I lost a .015 shim once and it got noisy; while you at at it I would put them in spec.


Re: Valve clearance

crosleyshortsport
 

The first thing to know is the Valve positions. From the front to back is, exhaust, intake, intake, exhaust, exhaust, intake, intake, exhaust.
Valve clearance should be : 
Intake, .005 - .006 cold
Exhaust .007 - .009 cold

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 4:58 PM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
I just finished measuring my valve clearance. I have two exhaust valves at .012 and one intake valve at .009. All other valves are in spec.  Just wondering if this is really bad and would it make them noisy. I'm going to shim them anyway,  just wondering if I can expect the valves to be quieter.


Re: Recommendation needed for carburetor purchase

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

A Carter WO carb is also used in early Jeeps. Wondering whether the Jeep WO can be converted for use on Crosleys.
The Jeep carbs are readily available.
Don

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Re: Fuel Pump Installation

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

You are correct Tilden. Several months ago I installed an inline fuel pump in my VC. Was trying to improve hard starting. Now am reading that an inline fuel pump should not pump through the mechanical pump. Will try to do better next time.
Don

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On Jan 19, 2020 5:42 PM, Donald <donald-gritti@...> wrote:
You are correct tilden. Several months ago I added an online fuel pump to my VC. Was trying to improve hard starting. Now am reading an online fuel pump should not feed through the mechanical pump! DUH! Will try to do the job right next time.
Don

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Re: Fuel Pump Installation

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

You are correct tilden. Several months ago I added an online fuel pump to my VC. Was trying to improve hard starting. Now am reading an online fuel pump should not feed through the mechanical pump! DUH! Will try to do the job right next time.
Don

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Re: Recommendation needed for carburetor purchase

crosleyshortsport
 

Thank you Jim


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:07 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Jeff only knows how to use his phone. Here is a pointer to our vendor list. The first 3 are the biggest parts suppliers.


Jim...

On Feb 17, 2020, at 5:46 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Here are some suppliers of Crosley parts

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 5:11 PM Tilden Drinkard <TILDENLD@...> wrote:
I need a new Carter carb for my newly purchased 1952 Station Wagon. I need a recommendation for a new or rebuild purveyor.

Thanx, Skip D 


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Re: Recommendation needed for carburetor purchase

Jim Bollman
 

Jeff only knows how to use his phone. Here is a pointer to our vendor list. The first 3 are the biggest parts suppliers.


Jim...

On Feb 17, 2020, at 5:46 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Here are some suppliers of Crosley parts

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 5:11 PM Tilden Drinkard <TILDENLD@...> wrote:
I need a new Carter carb for my newly purchased 1952 Station Wagon. I need a recommendation for a new or rebuild purveyor.

Thanx, Skip D 


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Re: Recommendation needed for carburetor purchase

crosleyshortsport
 

Here are some suppliers of Crosley parts


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 5:11 PM Tilden Drinkard <TILDENLD@...> wrote:
I need a new Carter carb for my newly purchased 1952 Station Wagon. I need a recommendation for a new or rebuild purveyor.

Thanx, Skip D