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Re: Crosley Parts Haul Cobra Questions

mr.chips
 

Probably not worth trying to cut it up.   Would much rather swap what ever parts it needs from those other two cast block engines, and drive it. 

That is if parts will swap like that?


Re: Crosley Parts Haul Cobra Questions

seb fontana
 

I have 3 or 4 Tin blocks, never thought to check how hard the cylinders are. Will they saw? I'll have to go check one before dark; or when it cools off more likely!.


Re: SS Gas Tank

Jim Liberty
 

Dale, can you please send me one then.     ........Jim.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:07 AM dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:
Contrary to what Jim Liberty indicated in his group email, Service Motors IS NOT out of gas tanks.


On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:


Thank you, I have both people on backorder.    ......Jim.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:27 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Yankee Crosley Parts or Dave Edwards may have one

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 6:01 PM Ed Limke <ealimke@...> wrote:

Jim did you get a top for your hot shot?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Contrary to what Jim Liberty indicated in his group email, Service Motors IS NOT out of gas tanks.


On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:


Thank you, I have both people on backorder.    ......Jim.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:27 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Yankee Crosley Parts or Dave Edwards may have one

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 6:01 PM Ed Limke <ealimke@...> wrote:

Jim did you get a top for your hot shot?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: Crosley Parts Haul Cobra Questions

L.E. Hardee
 

If you deo cut a block to make a display cut away, I suggest you cut off center so cylinders will have enough arc to hold the pistons, valves etc in the bores. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:57 PM mr.chips k <olds61f85@...> wrote:
I came home today with a small truck load of Crosley stuff. The guy at one time had over 10 of these cars.  Wound up getting : One COBRA , two cast motors, a trans & rear end with mechanical drums.  Numerous distributors, and water pump parts.

The tin block looks really decent. Unfortunately I'm missing parts to it( like main bearing caps, and cam bearing stuff, some valves).  If the bores were the same, could I swap stuff from one of the later cast blocks, onto the tin unit? Looks like some spray grease is inside the bores, so good news there. 

The white engine pictured has such bad pitting inside, it might have gotten into the cylinders. 

Had a crazy thought of putting the cobra into my 48 CC.  

Was tempted to cut that cobra in half also, to setup a display engine at shows, if its no good.   Here are some pictures of stuff. 


Crosley Parts Haul Cobra Questions

mr.chips
 

I came home today with a small truck load of Crosley stuff. The guy at one time had over 10 of these cars.  Wound up getting : One COBRA , two cast motors, a trans & rear end with mechanical drums.  Numerous distributors, and water pump parts.

The tin block looks really decent. Unfortunately I'm missing parts to it( like main bearing caps, and cam bearing stuff, some valves).  If the bores were the same, could I swap stuff from one of the later cast blocks, onto the tin unit? Looks like some spray grease is inside the bores, so good news there. 

The white engine pictured has such bad pitting inside, it might have gotten into the cylinders. 

Had a crazy thought of putting the cobra into my 48 CC.  

Was tempted to cut that cobra in half also, to setup a display engine at shows, if its no good.   Here are some pictures of stuff. 


Re: SS Gas Tank

Jim Liberty
 

Thank you, I have both people on backorder.    ......Jim.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:27 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Yankee Crosley Parts or Dave Edwards may have one

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 6:01 PM Ed Limke <ealimke@...> wrote:

Jim did you get a top for your hot shot?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

crosleyshortsport
 

Yankee Crosley Parts or Dave Edwards may have one


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 6:01 PM Ed Limke <ealimke@...> wrote:

Jim did you get a top for your hot shot?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

Ed Limke
 

Jim did you get a top for your hot shot?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

Ed Limke
 

Jim have you tried Dave Edwards

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Liberty
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 3:32 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] SS Gas Tank

 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

James Dlapa
 


Fully understand, when we would restore 300Sl’s this was often the course of action we would take as reproductions do not exist. We would cut them in half straighten them out, weld back together and have the Renu process done to the inside of the tank. Then Paint as would have been done at the factory. 

In reality the cost to have it done is comparable to a stainless replacement. 

Just a thought. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:45 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
James, I restore 356 Porsches and have been for 40 years. Anytime I can avoid resealing an old tank, I do. I'd rather buy new.                          ..................Thanks for responding.         Jim.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:25 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Jim, do you have the rank that came out? I have used Gas Tank Renu several times without any issues. I have tanks that were done 15 years ago that are as good as the day they were done. Might be a thought to get you on the road and keep the original tank. 

 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:32 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

Jim Liberty
 

James, I restore 356 Porsches and have been for 40 years. Anytime I can avoid resealing an old tank, I do. I'd rather buy new.                          ..................Thanks for responding.         Jim.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:25 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Jim, do you have the rank that came out? I have used Gas Tank Renu several times without any issues. I have tanks that were done 15 years ago that are as good as the day they were done. Might be a thought to get you on the road and keep the original tank. 

 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:32 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: SS Gas Tank

James Dlapa
 

Jim, do you have the rank that came out? I have used Gas Tank Renu several times without any issues. I have tanks that were done 15 years ago that are as good as the day they were done. Might be a thought to get you on the road and keep the original tank. 

 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:32 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


SS Gas Tank

Jim Liberty
 

Does anyone out there have a new gas tank they will part with. Service Motors is out of stock.      .......Jim.


Re: headliners

fred@...
 
Edited

Clell did a great story for the Quarterly Summer 2013 issue


Re: headliners

Jim Liberty
 

Clell, could you send pictures. I am finishing my '47 round side pickup, and need a headliner. Never heard of backless carpet.        ....Jim.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 8:46 AM Clell <cballard@...> wrote:

As the original story mentioned, one CC I got had had the garage it was stored in fall down on it.  I had to build a completely new top--an open top Crosley body is too shaky to use--and so the top I made was in the form of a coupe.  Thus the headliner was different.  The front windshield frame, although damaged, was salvaged and the headliner contacted it differently than if it was stock.

On 8/18/2021 10:47 AM, L.E. Hardee wrote:
That is neat looking.  I like original stuff but this is a great alternative if you don't care about being factory.  I noticed you went under the visors on the gray but stopped short with a trim edge on the beige.  Was there a reason or just being different?  The green peeking out in front gives a nice accent of the two colors.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:24 AM Clell <cballard@...> wrote:

Mike;

I am the only Crosley club member in Idaho.  For a few decades there were 2 of us--me with regular cars and and older guy with a Hot Shot.  He is now gone so I have no connection with anyone having to do with Crosleys.  Over the years I ran across two shabby non-running CC cars.  One even had the building it was stored in fall down on it.  Every effort to bring them back to nice was totally up to me.  Fortunately my experience with Studebakers, Jeeps, etc., made it possible so now I have two outstanding Crosleys--a 1947 round side pickup and a custom (the result of rebuilding the smashed car)1948 one of a kind Crosley coupe.

I did everything.  The one thing I couldn't do was headliners.  My earlier one attempt was to put a headliner in a Metropolitan.  My son and I succeeded but it was a miserable experience.  I had no idea what Crosley originally put in the cars but was pretty sure it would have been something cheap and marginal.  So I had two nice Crosleys with no--meaning ugly when looked at--headliners.  I talked to the guy who did my seats for me and he suggested a material he said had some substance to it and it had the ability to stretch around corners without it being obvious and even more, it could be "scrunched" in places where that was necessary without it being obvious.  It was pretty expensive but I bought some.

It has to be installed on the cars ceiling with spray upholstery adhesive.  You have to cut it about the size of the ceiling, sit inside with it draped over you while you affix it to the header.  Problem is you have to spray both the car and the material for it to adhere.  Slowly but surely you can apply it neatly along the middle.  When that is done you can turn your attention to the edges what need trimmed, etc.  It works better if someone helps you but I did my own by myself.  When done I am amazed it how neat it looks.  The first photo enclosed is the inside of my round side pickup ceiling.  Pretty bad looking.  Couldn't even clean it off and just paint it.  The second picture is of the pickup's headliner now.  The third photo is of my custom Crosley coupe I had to make a totally new top for.   You will have to agree it looks sharp and that is noteworthy because my sheet metal forming wasn't perfect and the material applied to the ceiling actually covers up some imperfections.

So what is the fabric?  Actually talked to the guy yesterday who sold it to me and I asked what someone else should ask for.  He said the material--in many different colors--is called "backless carpet."  He repeated that it is excellent for trunk linings (and headliners but nobody buy Croslely people would probably be interested in that ) and any other surface that needs covered.  It is NOT good for floor covering since it has no backing.   Again it is somewhat expensive in that a person has to buy quite a lot of have enough for the Crosley roof.  You will have a lot left over.  I have used it both Crosleys--different colors so double to amount left over--and a couple other custom cars from the 1940s and 1950s.  I can guarantee no one will ever question it after it is installed.

Best regards

Clell G. Ballard

On 8/17/2021 9:14 PM, Mike S wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing the details.


Re: headliners

Clell
 

As the original story mentioned, one CC I got had had the garage it was stored in fall down on it.  I had to build a completely new top--an open top Crosley body is too shaky to use--and so the top I made was in the form of a coupe.  Thus the headliner was different.  The front windshield frame, although damaged, was salvaged and the headliner contacted it differently than if it was stock.

On 8/18/2021 10:47 AM, L.E. Hardee wrote:
That is neat looking.  I like original stuff but this is a great alternative if you don't care about being factory.  I noticed you went under the visors on the gray but stopped short with a trim edge on the beige.  Was there a reason or just being different?  The green peeking out in front gives a nice accent of the two colors.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:24 AM Clell <cballard@...> wrote:

Mike;

I am the only Crosley club member in Idaho.  For a few decades there were 2 of us--me with regular cars and and older guy with a Hot Shot.  He is now gone so I have no connection with anyone having to do with Crosleys.  Over the years I ran across two shabby non-running CC cars.  One even had the building it was stored in fall down on it.  Every effort to bring them back to nice was totally up to me.  Fortunately my experience with Studebakers, Jeeps, etc., made it possible so now I have two outstanding Crosleys--a 1947 round side pickup and a custom (the result of rebuilding the smashed car)1948 one of a kind Crosley coupe.

I did everything.  The one thing I couldn't do was headliners.  My earlier one attempt was to put a headliner in a Metropolitan.  My son and I succeeded but it was a miserable experience.  I had no idea what Crosley originally put in the cars but was pretty sure it would have been something cheap and marginal.  So I had two nice Crosleys with no--meaning ugly when looked at--headliners.  I talked to the guy who did my seats for me and he suggested a material he said had some substance to it and it had the ability to stretch around corners without it being obvious and even more, it could be "scrunched" in places where that was necessary without it being obvious.  It was pretty expensive but I bought some.

It has to be installed on the cars ceiling with spray upholstery adhesive.  You have to cut it about the size of the ceiling, sit inside with it draped over you while you affix it to the header.  Problem is you have to spray both the car and the material for it to adhere.  Slowly but surely you can apply it neatly along the middle.  When that is done you can turn your attention to the edges what need trimmed, etc.  It works better if someone helps you but I did my own by myself.  When done I am amazed it how neat it looks.  The first photo enclosed is the inside of my round side pickup ceiling.  Pretty bad looking.  Couldn't even clean it off and just paint it.  The second picture is of the pickup's headliner now.  The third photo is of my custom Crosley coupe I had to make a totally new top for.   You will have to agree it looks sharp and that is noteworthy because my sheet metal forming wasn't perfect and the material applied to the ceiling actually covers up some imperfections.

So what is the fabric?  Actually talked to the guy yesterday who sold it to me and I asked what someone else should ask for.  He said the material--in many different colors--is called "backless carpet."  He repeated that it is excellent for trunk linings (and headliners but nobody buy Croslely people would probably be interested in that ) and any other surface that needs covered.  It is NOT good for floor covering since it has no backing.   Again it is somewhat expensive in that a person has to buy quite a lot of have enough for the Crosley roof.  You will have a lot left over.  I have used it both Crosleys--different colors so double to amount left over--and a couple other custom cars from the 1940s and 1950s.  I can guarantee no one will ever question it after it is installed.

Best regards

Clell G. Ballard

On 8/17/2021 9:14 PM, Mike S wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing the details.


Racing - Crosley Hotshot: Serious Contender Too Few Took Seriously

Jim Bollman
 

Robert Cunningham has written a great article on The Old Motor web site on Crosley's racing highlights.
https://theoldmotor.com/?p=186269&fbclid=IwAR3rAc6tjpVCDr2GLOhzMbY9M1W-l5KwOxYElbTTfE0J-0_xMu6E2rRQMd8

Jim...


Re: August Crosley of the Month

Jim Bollman
 

Park’s Crosley has a Tin Block no removable side plates. 

Park, I assumed you cleaned the block as well as you could when you had it out, if not, you might try EvaporRust. I used it on my FOR last year because I didn’t feel like trying to remove the side plates in the tight engine compartment and it seemed to work. You use it full strength and can actually drive with it in if you want to let it really soak in. I ran mine till it got warm a couple of times driving around the property drained and flushed. You can drain the EvapoRust into a bucket and let it sit for a couple of days and the rust will settle out so you can pour off the top and reuse. It will also clean the radiator to some extent. I wish I had put a filter in the upper hose to filter out the big chunks but it eventually breaks up into to small chunks. EvaporRust is harmless to anything but rust and is environmentally friendly.

Along the same line if you over grease your water pump it can end up in the cooling system and put an insulating coating on everything. A few years ago I had this problem and used simply green to degrease the inside and it helped for a few years. I don’t remember how much I diluted it but ran till warm a few times and flushed forever to get the suds out.

Jim...

On Aug 18, 2021, at 7:47 PM, L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:

Maybe I missed it, but have you taken the side plates off your block and cleaned the crud from around the cylinders?  When you do, make sure the inner baffles are intact.  Otherwise the coolant goes straight across from one side to the other leaving cylinders 1 and 4 to overheat.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 7:28 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
Have you tried water wetter. It will help some. My temp gauge pegs after a few miles. But when I check it with a temp. meter it is 180 degrees.        .......Jim.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:49 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:

We are humbled. Thanks, Jim!

Now we’re working on an overheating problem so we can drive more than two lies at a time. The radiator cardboard are in, the thermostat is out, and the water pump works a treat. 


Current theory is the timing is too advanced. Especially when warm, it likes to kick the starter out. 


If that doesn’t fix the overheating, next step is to get the radiator boiled out. 

 

Erick’s departure for England is delayed ie ding a work visa, so we’re using the free week or two to tinker with the car. It really is a pleasure sharing this hobby with him!

- Park







Re: August Crosley of the Month

Jim Liberty
 

Great advice. I did this and was amazed at the "Crud" I scraped and chiseled off.    .......Jim.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 4:48 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but have you taken the side plates off your block and cleaned the crud from around the cylinders?  When you do, make sure the inner baffles are intact.  Otherwise the coolant goes straight across from one side to the other leaving cylinders 1 and 4 to overheat.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 7:28 PM Jim Liberty <jimliberty356@...> wrote:
Have you tried water wetter. It will help some. My temp gauge pegs after a few miles. But when I check it with a temp. meter it is 180 degrees.        .......Jim.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:49 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:

We are humbled. Thanks, Jim!

Now we’re working on an overheating problem so we can drive more than two lies at a time. The radiator cardboard are in, the thermostat is out, and the water pump works a treat. 


Current theory is the timing is too advanced. Especially when warm, it likes to kick the starter out. 


If that doesn’t fix the overheating, next step is to get the radiator boiled out. 

 

Erick’s departure for England is delayed ie ding a work visa, so we’re using the free week or two to tinker with the car. It really is a pleasure sharing this hobby with him!

- Park

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