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Re: Station wagon headliners

Kenn Cahill
 

Jim, thank you for posting those photos. I have two of the headliner brackets. I was not sure exactly what they were. They were originally painted black. Each of them still has three large metal buttons attached which appeared to have the headliner attached to them. It looks like they were not visible and the headliner was below/inside of them. So the brackets must’ve fit against the metal roof. The headliner covered them and was attached by the three large buttons.


Re: Station wagon headliners

Paula W
 

It it's of any help, we have a 1947 Crosley sedan with an intact headliner. I'd be glad to take some photos. Again, not a station wagon and frankly the bows look a bit different than some of the photos I've seen posted. They are aluminum.


For Sale: 1947 Sedan - MI - $16,500

Jim Bollman
 

1947 Crosley Sedan that was a CAC National CC First Place winner in 1995 and has been in a museum the last 10 years. It still looks great inside and out and runs and drives very well.  No radio but does have a heater. Price is $16,500.  Contact:
ealmarode@...
phone 540-337-3657 
Located in Stuarts Draft Va. 24477

He is not a member of Crosley-Gang so contact him directly.


Re: Station wagon headliners

Jim Bollman
 

Here is a link to a headliner bow and the next couple of photos after. I have never owned a Crosley with and intact headliner so can’t be of anymore help. These photos are in the Restoration Photo Album.

Jim...

On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:18 PM, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:

I had just assumed the bows were aluminum, but have never seen one in real life.  Thanks for the photos.  Yes, I was told the head liner was a 3 piece affair.  Could you measure yours & post a close up photo of the profile?  I might try my hand at making some.  The partial front piece I have was partially held by the sun visors & had creases to help it form to the front corners of the roof.  I'll try to post a photo tomorrow.  The back edge is edged with a small U channel of aluminum.  The sides were held with the "Z" channel that hangs on the inner roof rail.  Here's a photo of the profile of that channel.<roof rail.jpg>


Re: Station wagon headliners

Mike S
 

I had just assumed the bows were aluminum, but have never seen one in real life.  Thanks for the photos.  Yes, I was told the head liner was a 3 piece affair.  Could you measure yours & post a close up photo of the profile?  I might try my hand at making some.  The partial front piece I have was partially held by the sun visors & had creases to help it form to the front corners of the roof.  I'll try to post a photo tomorrow.  The back edge is edged with a small U channel of aluminum.  The sides were held with the "Z" channel that hangs on the inner roof rail.  Here's a photo of the profile of that channel.


Re: Station wagon headliners

Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...>
 

I only found 2 support bows in my wagon. I have no idea what a complete set looks like, or how the front is held together. It seems to be a 3 piece head liner with 2 support bows in the middle. Mine are steel, not aluminum. Aluminum to me seems like it will be too soft and may sag. I'm going to keep mine, just thought I'd share for reference.


On Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 7:40 PM Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:
A rod won't work.  The bows are an "H" shaped piece of aluminum that the ends of the cardboard fit into.


Re: Station wagon headliners

Mike S
 

A rod won't work.  The bows are an "H" shaped piece of aluminum that the ends of the cardboard fit into.


Re: Station wagon headliners

Jim Liberty
 

Mike, you can make them from 3/16" rod. McMaster Carr. I am guilty of customizing my restorations on Crosleys. They just "Beg" for upgrades. That said, I keep my 356s dead stock.    ......Jim.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:51 PM Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:
Having now attended 2 conventions at Wauseon, I have been surprised that there is very little consistency in the restorations of our cars.  In particular, I assume (maybe wrongly?) that the wagons came from the factory with a headliner, yet I see very few cars that have them, and very few, if any, have the same type of material for their headliner.  I'm told the headline was in 3 separate pieces.

I talked to Ted at Yankee Parts & he says he has the patterns to make the cardboard headliners (am trying to contact him now).  He says I need to source the aluminum bows that were used between the different sections, as well as the aluminum "hanger strips" for the sides.  I did purchasesome side pieces at Wauseon, as well as a partial original front section of cardboard, but no luck on the bows.  Would anyone have any for sale?
thanks,
Mike S (Fritz)


Station wagon headliners

Mike S
 

Having now attended 2 conventions at Wauseon, I have been surprised that there is very little consistency in the restorations of our cars.  In particular, I assume (maybe wrongly?) that the wagons came from the factory with a headliner, yet I see very few cars that have them, and very few, if any, have the same type of material for their headliner.  I'm told the headline was in 3 separate pieces.

I talked to Ted at Yankee Parts & he says he has the patterns to make the cardboard headliners (am trying to contact him now).  He says I need to source the aluminum bows that were used between the different sections, as well as the aluminum "hanger strips" for the sides.  I did purchasesome side pieces at Wauseon, as well as a partial original front section of cardboard, but no luck on the bows.  Would anyone have any for sale?
thanks,
Mike S (Fritz)


Re: Flashing the regulator

Jim Liberty
 

I have a shut off on my cars. I do not attend to the generator ever after the first time. Sometimes it isn't necessary at all.
                                         ..........................Jim.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:12 PM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
I read somewhere that every time you replace the battery you need to flash the voltage regulator. This suggests to me that every time you disconnect the battery you need to flash the voltage voltage regulator. This doesn't seem reasonable to me. I would really appreciate if someone could enlighten me on this subject. 
Thank You in advance.


Re: Flashing the regulator

Jim Bollman
 

Hopefully someone with a better knowledge of such things will jump in if I’m too far off. You don’t flash the voltage regulator you flash the generator to polarize it. As far as I know you only have to do it once when installing a generator that you don’t know is polarized. I have never polarized a generator and have not had any problems that I know of.

Since your next question might be how to polarize a generator? Here is a description I saved from awhile back when it was discussed.

“On our bench test stand, I polarize the generators directly, no regulator involved. The generator is grounded, then flash to the armature terminal of the generator itself, before spinning them for an output test.” Or same results. "Heavy wire between that Bat and the ARM terminals on the regulator. (Not the field terminal!) momentarily."

Jim...

On Aug 10, 2021, at 11:12 PM, Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:

I read somewhere that every time you replace the battery you need to flash the voltage regulator. This suggests to me that every time you disconnect the battery you need to flash the voltage voltage regulator. This doesn't seem reasonable to me. I would really appreciate if someone could enlighten me on this subject. 
Thank You in advance.


Flashing the regulator

Andy Farley
 

I read somewhere that every time you replace the battery you need to flash the voltage regulator. This suggests to me that every time you disconnect the battery you need to flash the voltage voltage regulator. This doesn't seem reasonable to me. I would really appreciate if someone could enlighten me on this subject. 
Thank You in advance.


Re: Tillotson Rebuild.

Jim Liberty
 

I'm with you Rick.    .....Jim.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 6:06 PM Butch via groups.io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Rick,

NO, never use any type of sealants on carburetor gaskets.
I use and suggest, a SLIGHT touch of anti-seize on all of the brass parts, but that's it.

Butch

On 8/6/2021 4:54 PM, Rick Geithmann wrote:
Hi All.

I am going to be in the process of rebuilding my Tillotson carburetor on my 47 CC.

Since I have not done any type of carburetor work in about 40 years I wanted to ask if I should use any kind of sealant when I install the new gaskets? I have the rebuild kit already , I just want to get it right.

Thanks.

Rick Geithmann
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Re: Tillotson Rebuild.

Butch
 

Rick,

NO, never use any type of sealants on carburetor gaskets.
I use and suggest, a SLIGHT touch of anti-seize on all of the brass parts, but that's it.

Butch

On 8/6/2021 4:54 PM, Rick Geithmann wrote:
Hi All.

I am going to be in the process of rebuilding my Tillotson carburetor on my 47 CC.

Since I have not done any type of carburetor work in about 40 years I wanted to ask if I should use any kind of sealant when I install the new gaskets? I have the rebuild kit already , I just want to get it right.

Thanks.

Rick Geithmann
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Re: Tillotson Rebuild.

Jim Liberty
 

If the mating surfaces are smooth and flat, I do not put any sealant on them.    ....Jim.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 1:53 PM Rick Geithmann <pzkw-6@...> wrote:
Hi All.

I am going to be in the process of rebuilding my Tillotson carburetor on my 47 CC.

Since I have not done any type of carburetor work in about 40 years I wanted to ask if I should use any kind of sealant when I install the new gaskets? I have the rebuild kit already , I just want to get it right.

Thanks.

Rick Geithmann


Tillotson Rebuild.

Rick Geithmann
 

Hi All.

I am going to be in the process of rebuilding my Tillotson carburetor on my 47 CC.

Since I have not done any type of carburetor work in about 40 years I wanted to ask if I should use any kind of sealant when I install the new gaskets? I have the rebuild kit already , I just want to get it right.

Thanks.

Rick Geithmann


Re: Brake line question

Jim Liberty
 

Don. my '50 Hotshot has disc brakes, but the lines are the same. There should be a keeper inside the "C" frame. On the left side is a bracket for an oil filter. It is a bear to get a tool in there. ............Jim.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:39 AM Don Pitchford via groups.io <w9ebk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am working on the brakes on my 51 Hot Shot. It has hydraulic drum brakes. The rubber brake line on the passenger side front is collapsed. I ordered a new one from Service Motors. How do I get the old one out of the frame? It's disconnected from the wheel cylinder and steel brake line but I can't get it out of the hole in the frame. I don't want to go beating on it if there's a keeper that I'm overlooking. Will this be obvious when I have the new one in hand? I looked for info on Youtube and the Crosley Automobile website but didn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Don Pitchford


Re: Brake line question

Gabriel Haddad
 

I believe there is a snap ring on inside of the frame.


On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 11:39 AM Don Pitchford via groups.io <w9ebk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am working on the brakes on my 51 Hot Shot. It has hydraulic drum brakes. The rubber brake line on the passenger side front is collapsed. I ordered a new one from Service Motors. How do I get the old one out of the frame? It's disconnected from the wheel cylinder and steel brake line but I can't get it out of the hole in the frame. I don't want to go beating on it if there's a keeper that I'm overlooking. Will this be obvious when I have the new one in hand? I looked for info on Youtube and the Crosley Automobile website but didn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Don Pitchford


Re: Brake line question

crosleyshortsport
 

You should see a "squaure" U shaped keeper holding it. It should have a slightly bent lip on the top side.


On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 11:39 AM Don Pitchford via groups.io <w9ebk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am working on the brakes on my 51 Hot Shot. It has hydraulic drum brakes. The rubber brake line on the passenger side front is collapsed. I ordered a new one from Service Motors. How do I get the old one out of the frame? It's disconnected from the wheel cylinder and steel brake line but I can't get it out of the hole in the frame. I don't want to go beating on it if there's a keeper that I'm overlooking. Will this be obvious when I have the new one in hand? I looked for info on Youtube and the Crosley Automobile website but didn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Don Pitchford


Brake line question

Don Pitchford
 

I am working on the brakes on my 51 Hot Shot. It has hydraulic drum brakes. The rubber brake line on the passenger side front is collapsed. I ordered a new one from Service Motors. How do I get the old one out of the frame? It's disconnected from the wheel cylinder and steel brake line but I can't get it out of the hole in the frame. I don't want to go beating on it if there's a keeper that I'm overlooking. Will this be obvious when I have the new one in hand? I looked for info on Youtube and the Crosley Automobile website but didn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Don Pitchford

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