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Re: Crankshaft install

Richard Williams
 

here is a dot on the small gear. it must line with the crank for timing. Clean that gear really good. it is there hard to see. maybe with an eye loop. I had the same problem. It isn't that easy to line up but keep trying till they match.  Rich W.

On Monday, March 30, 2020, 01:30:27 PM PDT, Steve Perry <sperryfish@...> wrote:


OK, 
I put the crankshaft in and followed the manual and installed the camshaft. When I rolled the engine over to get compression on cylinder 1 it never got compression. I watched and when the piston is coming up a valve is always open. I assume that I’ve used the wrong tooth on the crankshaft and the timing is off. Does someone have a photo showing a crank and the mark on the spline so I can see if the notch on my crank is the same?
 Thanks for any help..
Steve

Re: Crankshaft install

David
 

I thought, why am I waiting until morning, I’m bored with all this self quarantine stuff, so I went to my workshop and took the pictures.  In these pics, you can see the position of #1 cylinder cam lobes, and in the other shot the business end of the rotor button pointing forward, plus the TDC mark on the crank pulley.    David

 

 

 

 

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From: Steve Perry
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:50 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crankshaft install

 

I appreciate the replies..
David, when you say “ the first cylinder’s cam lobes both point downward”  are you saying that the cam lobes in cylinder 1 are both somewhat depressing the valves such as having one valve opening and the other closing?
Steve

 

Re: Crankshaft install

David
 

No.  Both valves are closed, and the lobes are equidistant from their followers (each just touching its follower).  I’ll take a picture of this and post it tomorrow morning.

 

David

 

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From: Steve Perry
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:53 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crankshaft install

 

I appreciate the replies..
David, when you say “ the first cylinder’s cam lobes both point downward”  are you saying that the cam lobes in cylinder 1 are both somewhat depressing the valves such as having one valve opening and the other closing?
Steve

 

Re: Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 

I appreciate the replies..
David, when you say “ the first cylinder’s cam lobes both point downward”  are you saying that the cam lobes in cylinder 1 are both somewhat depressing the valves such as having one valve opening and the other closing?
Steve

Re: Crankshaft install

David
 

When I assemble a Crosley engine, I pay no attention to the timing marks.  If you put #1 cylinder on TDC, the cam is set so that the first cylinder’s cam lobes both point downward, and are equally arrayed around the cam follower; the rotor button should point forward (ignition timing has to be set anyway, and a general forward pointing is close enough to allow the engine to start).  This always works for me.

 

David

 

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From: nobadrivers
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:44 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crankshaft install

 

I'm actually installing my crankshaft tonight or tomorrow.  If I get it done before someone else sends you a picture I'll send you a picture of the crank & cam (valve timing) and the distributor position. 

 

Re: Crankshaft install

nobadrivers
 

I'm actually installing my crankshaft tonight or tomorrow.  If I get it done before someone else sends you a picture I'll send you a picture of the crank & cam (valve timing) and the distributor position. 

Re: Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 

OK, 
I put the crankshaft in and followed the manual and installed the camshaft. When I rolled the engine over to get compression on cylinder 1 it never got compression. I watched and when the piston is coming up a valve is always open. I assume that I’ve used the wrong tooth on the crankshaft and the timing is off. Does someone have a photo showing a crank and the mark on the spline so I can see if the notch on my crank is the same?
 Thanks for any help..
Steve

Re: Identifying my Crosley - is this a valid serial number?

Spock Arnold
 

John
    The serial number plate is not original to the car.  It appears to be a remanufactured plate put on at a later date.  It would not have an original number to avoid duplication with another car.  What is on the title?  If the title matches that plate, I wouldn't be worried.  
       You may find a serial number on the frame but there is no guarantee. 

On Mar 29, 2020 6:51 PM, John Schneiderman <john-schneiderman@...> wrote:
I've got a 1947 Crosley Sedan with a Serial Number of:  C47205441.  Is this a valid number?
I thought the serial number should be  CC47-20544  for my car but the serial number plate shows C47205441.
Is it possible that the engine is not original to the car or does the number indicate a different use (because it is a single C and not a CC, and the extra digit at the end of the serial number) such as a generator engine, or motor boat, etc. The serial number plate is lighter, brighter color than the car's engine compartment color and attached with small sheet metal screws. If the serial number is not original, is there anywhere else on the car that would help to identify its original serial number.
 
 

Identifying my Crosley - is this a valid serial number?

John Schneiderman
 

I've got a 1947 Crosley Sedan with a Serial Number of:  C47205441.  Is this a valid number?
I thought the serial number should be  CC47-20544  for my car but the serial number plate shows C47205441.
Is it possible that the engine is not original to the car or does the number indicate a different use (because it is a single C and not a CC, and the extra digit at the end of the serial number) such as a generator engine, or motor boat, etc. The serial number plate is lighter, brighter color than the car's engine compartment color and attached with small sheet metal screws. If the serial number is not original, is there anywhere else on the car that would help to identify its original serial number.
 
 

Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Whats you phone number and i will call you..
Dale 
775-450-1105


On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:


Dale

I’m in Jacksonville, Texas but could deliver to Northwest Arkansas when this virus clears up.  I would like $400 for the generator.  Can send more pictures.

Tim


On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

Tim Baker <timbaker61@...>
 

Dale

I’m in Jacksonville, Texas but could deliver to Northwest Arkansas when this virus clears up.  I would like $400 for the generator.  Can send more pictures.

Tim


On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Hi tim
What do you need for it and where are you located?


On Mar 29, 2020, at 5:05 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

timbaker61@...
 

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

Need Military Generator Sheet Metal

dale@servicemotors.net
 
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Moderator: I change the Subject line so the mesage would not get lost.

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

Re: Crankshaft install

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Look on the outside of the gear or the face which faces the front of the engine.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Steve Perry <sperryfish@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Hello everyone..
Im attempting to install the crankshaft. I have the Service Manual and read through the section a few times. The small gear was not installed on the crankshaft. I have a notch in my crankshaft spline and I can’t find any markings on the crankshaft gear. If I’m reading it right the notched spline will need to match up to a specific area on one side or the other of the crankshaft gear.
I have more than one crankshaft gear and haven’t found a mark on any of them.
Thanks, 
Steve Perry

To : The Crosley Automobile Club - Nationals Announcement

Jim Bollman
 

From: Jeff Ackerman

As Chairman of the Crosley Automobile Club, "The Vision Continues" national meet, July 6 - 11 2020, I am optimistic the big show will go on. Very soon you will be receiving your Spring Quarterly. You will find the meet schedule and the pre-registration inside. You should know that the dash plaques are already made and the trophies are almost finished. I recommend pre-registering and making your travel plans. If we are not able to proceed, We will still use your pre-registration to send your dash plaque. ALSO, if need be, we will hold an online show and voting. If you win, your trophy will be mailed to you. As Treasurer of the club, I can assure you that any money you send in for the Banquet, Camping, or Vendor fees, would be refunded. Personally, I am confident the show will proceed as planned and I will be sending my check for registration, camping and the banquet as soon as I receive my quarterly.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Ackerman, Chairman of the Meet, and Treasurer.

Re: Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 

OK..
I think I figured it out. The small gear that I was trying to find a mark on drives the oil pump and distributor. The other gear that slides on after the spring does have a punch mark..
so, I’m good for now..
Thanks,
Steve

Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 
Edited

Hello everyone..
Im attempting to install the crankshaft. I have the Service Manual and read through the section a few times. The small gear was not installed on the crankshaft. I have a notch in my crankshaft spline and I can’t find any markings on the crankshaft gear. If I’m reading it right the notched spline will need to match up to a specific area on one side or the other of the crankshaft gear.
I have more than one crankshaft gear and haven’t found a mark on any of them.
Thanks, 
Steve Perry

Re: Charlie Nicholas Story

Jim Bollman
 

Jeff I forwarded your photo to Chet, here is his reply with more Charlie stories.

Jim...

Many thanks for attaching the photo.  Charlie was very proud of his Crosley Flying Saucer.  He drove it to the Indianapolis 500 at least once and I recall it created quite a stir as a rather unusual small American car.  The color was very close to a British Racing Green.  The car came out only on special occasions but one would always see Charlie wearing his customary beige one piece coveralls.

Yes, his sense of humor was great, janitor he was as the shop was always clean.  Humor he had, automobile psychiatrist yes - he listened to hear automotive problems which he then confirmed and repaired.

Crosley’s were his love but his ‘Furrin’ car shop was always full of foreign marks.  He knew and understood them all.  Under Charlie’s tutelage I had the pleasure working on many.  Being short and stout, he always had his footstool at the ready to give him the added height to bend over a fender.  Where he found replacement parts for the foreign marks I have no idea, but UPS knew who and where we were for their deliveries.  Can you imagine anyone giving a 17 year old the opportunity to strip and install a new canvas top on an Austin Healey 100?  Charlie didn’t touch a thing and there was no removal and start over, and it was Charlie who watched me do it.  Charlie Nicholas was good and permitted many to fully enjoy their ‘different’ autos.  It is perhaps a little late, but ‘thank you’ Charlie.  And I appreciate you and your friends watching me siphon gas from a pickup parked at curbside in front of your home, only then did I see you - and you never uttered a word about it.

Chet

On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:11 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Chet,  Here is a photo I took this past Autumn of Ted DellaCamera from Yankee Crosley Parts. He gave me a ride in the Flying Saucer !
Jeffrey

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
I got this eMail with others familiar with the Flying Saucer and Charlie Nicholas

On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Chet Tschetter wrote:

Today I received my weekly notice from Hyman Ltd. and saw the 1951 Crosley LeMans Team Racecar for sale.  I immediately thought of Charlie Nicholas and his “Flying Saucer”.  I then did bit of ‘googling’ and found your website.  I graduated from Fairmont High School in 1954 and occasionally worked for Charlie in 52, 53 and 54.  I only knew his shop on East Blue Earth Avenue and his home on Tilden Street.  Yes, and met Ruby many times.
 
Charlie was short and stout, had a hard time bending over a fender to service a normal car engine except a VW or a Porsche, or an MG or an Austin Healey. He also had a bit of a problem sliding under cars as his shop had no lift, only a creeper, standard floor jacks and stands.  I guess that is where I came in at 5’10” and 155 lbs.  I could bend over and crawl under and Charlie would issue instructions and away we went.
 
I remember his love of Crosleys, a small, economical, well engined, little 4-place car.  I also recall his appreciation of European engineering and his own attention to detail.  At that time it was fix it rather than to replace and I learned a lot from Charlie.  Oh, I could go on and on but won’t bore you with more.  Thanks for remembering Charlie and taking me back on this little trip as well.  Cheers.
 
Chet Tschetter
 


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Re: Charlie Nicholas Story

crosleyshortsport
 

Chet,  Here is a photo I took this past Autumn of Ted DellaCamera from Yankee Crosley Parts. He gave me a ride in the Flying Saucer !
Jeffrey

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
I got this eMail with others familiar with the Flying Saucer and Charlie Nicholas

On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Chet Tschetter wrote:

Today I received my weekly notice from Hyman Ltd. and saw the 1951 Crosley LeMans Team Racecar for sale.  I immediately thought of Charlie Nicholas and his “Flying Saucer”.  I then did bit of ‘googling’ and found your website.  I graduated from Fairmont High School in 1954 and occasionally worked for Charlie in 52, 53 and 54.  I only knew his shop on East Blue Earth Avenue and his home on Tilden Street.  Yes, and met Ruby many times.
 
Charlie was short and stout, had a hard time bending over a fender to service a normal car engine except a VW or a Porsche, or an MG or an Austin Healey. He also had a bit of a problem sliding under cars as his shop had no lift, only a creeper, standard floor jacks and stands.  I guess that is where I came in at 5’10” and 155 lbs.  I could bend over and crawl under and Charlie would issue instructions and away we went.
 
I remember his love of Crosleys, a small, economical, well engined, little 4-place car.  I also recall his appreciation of European engineering and his own attention to detail.  At that time it was fix it rather than to replace and I learned a lot from Charlie.  Oh, I could go on and on but won’t bore you with more.  Thanks for remembering Charlie and taking me back on this little trip as well.  Cheers.
 
Chet Tschetter