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Re: Identifying my Crosley - is this a valid serial number?

Spock Arnold
 

John
    The serial number plate is not original to the car.  It appears to be a remanufactured plate put on at a later date.  It would not have an original number to avoid duplication with another car.  What is on the title?  If the title matches that plate, I wouldn't be worried.  
       You may find a serial number on the frame but there is no guarantee. 

On Mar 29, 2020 6:51 PM, John Schneiderman <john-schneiderman@...> wrote:
I've got a 1947 Crosley Sedan with a Serial Number of:  C47205441.  Is this a valid number?
I thought the serial number should be  CC47-20544  for my car but the serial number plate shows C47205441.
Is it possible that the engine is not original to the car or does the number indicate a different use (because it is a single C and not a CC, and the extra digit at the end of the serial number) such as a generator engine, or motor boat, etc. The serial number plate is lighter, brighter color than the car's engine compartment color and attached with small sheet metal screws. If the serial number is not original, is there anywhere else on the car that would help to identify its original serial number.
 
 

Identifying my Crosley - is this a valid serial number?

John Schneiderman
 

I've got a 1947 Crosley Sedan with a Serial Number of:  C47205441.  Is this a valid number?
I thought the serial number should be  CC47-20544  for my car but the serial number plate shows C47205441.
Is it possible that the engine is not original to the car or does the number indicate a different use (because it is a single C and not a CC, and the extra digit at the end of the serial number) such as a generator engine, or motor boat, etc. The serial number plate is lighter, brighter color than the car's engine compartment color and attached with small sheet metal screws. If the serial number is not original, is there anywhere else on the car that would help to identify its original serial number.
 
 

Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Whats you phone number and i will call you..
Dale 
775-450-1105


On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:


Dale

I’m in Jacksonville, Texas but could deliver to Northwest Arkansas when this virus clears up.  I would like $400 for the generator.  Can send more pictures.

Tim


On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

Tim Baker <timbaker61@...>
 

Dale

I’m in Jacksonville, Texas but could deliver to Northwest Arkansas when this virus clears up.  I would like $400 for the generator.  Can send more pictures.

Tim


On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Hi tim
What do you need for it and where are you located?


On Mar 29, 2020, at 5:05 AM, Tim Baker via Groups.Io <timbaker61@...> wrote:

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

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Re: Need Military Generator Sheet Metal.

timbaker61@...
 

I’ve got a complete generator I’m trying to sell.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:20 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

Need Military Generator Sheet Metal

dale@servicemotors.net
 
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Moderator: I change the Subject line so the mesage would not get lost.

Not to change the subject, but i am looking for an army generator sheet metal.  Mine is pretty rusty and cant be used.  I need the two sides and the front.  It has to be from a army 5k generator.  Anyone know of any??
 

Re: Crankshaft install

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Look on the outside of the gear or the face which faces the front of the engine.


On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Steve Perry <sperryfish@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Hello everyone..
Im attempting to install the crankshaft. I have the Service Manual and read through the section a few times. The small gear was not installed on the crankshaft. I have a notch in my crankshaft spline and I can’t find any markings on the crankshaft gear. If I’m reading it right the notched spline will need to match up to a specific area on one side or the other of the crankshaft gear.
I have more than one crankshaft gear and haven’t found a mark on any of them.
Thanks, 
Steve Perry

To : The Crosley Automobile Club - Nationals Announcement

Jim Bollman
 

From: Jeff Ackerman

As Chairman of the Crosley Automobile Club, "The Vision Continues" national meet, July 6 - 11 2020, I am optimistic the big show will go on. Very soon you will be receiving your Spring Quarterly. You will find the meet schedule and the pre-registration inside. You should know that the dash plaques are already made and the trophies are almost finished. I recommend pre-registering and making your travel plans. If we are not able to proceed, We will still use your pre-registration to send your dash plaque. ALSO, if need be, we will hold an online show and voting. If you win, your trophy will be mailed to you. As Treasurer of the club, I can assure you that any money you send in for the Banquet, Camping, or Vendor fees, would be refunded. Personally, I am confident the show will proceed as planned and I will be sending my check for registration, camping and the banquet as soon as I receive my quarterly.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Ackerman, Chairman of the Meet, and Treasurer.

Re: Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 

OK..
I think I figured it out. The small gear that I was trying to find a mark on drives the oil pump and distributor. The other gear that slides on after the spring does have a punch mark..
so, I’m good for now..
Thanks,
Steve

Crankshaft install

Steve Perry
 
Edited

Hello everyone..
Im attempting to install the crankshaft. I have the Service Manual and read through the section a few times. The small gear was not installed on the crankshaft. I have a notch in my crankshaft spline and I can’t find any markings on the crankshaft gear. If I’m reading it right the notched spline will need to match up to a specific area on one side or the other of the crankshaft gear.
I have more than one crankshaft gear and haven’t found a mark on any of them.
Thanks, 
Steve Perry

Re: Charlie Nicholas Story

Jim Bollman
 

Jeff I forwarded your photo to Chet, here is his reply with more Charlie stories.

Jim...

Many thanks for attaching the photo.  Charlie was very proud of his Crosley Flying Saucer.  He drove it to the Indianapolis 500 at least once and I recall it created quite a stir as a rather unusual small American car.  The color was very close to a British Racing Green.  The car came out only on special occasions but one would always see Charlie wearing his customary beige one piece coveralls.

Yes, his sense of humor was great, janitor he was as the shop was always clean.  Humor he had, automobile psychiatrist yes - he listened to hear automotive problems which he then confirmed and repaired.

Crosley’s were his love but his ‘Furrin’ car shop was always full of foreign marks.  He knew and understood them all.  Under Charlie’s tutelage I had the pleasure working on many.  Being short and stout, he always had his footstool at the ready to give him the added height to bend over a fender.  Where he found replacement parts for the foreign marks I have no idea, but UPS knew who and where we were for their deliveries.  Can you imagine anyone giving a 17 year old the opportunity to strip and install a new canvas top on an Austin Healey 100?  Charlie didn’t touch a thing and there was no removal and start over, and it was Charlie who watched me do it.  Charlie Nicholas was good and permitted many to fully enjoy their ‘different’ autos.  It is perhaps a little late, but ‘thank you’ Charlie.  And I appreciate you and your friends watching me siphon gas from a pickup parked at curbside in front of your home, only then did I see you - and you never uttered a word about it.

Chet

On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:11 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Chet,  Here is a photo I took this past Autumn of Ted DellaCamera from Yankee Crosley Parts. He gave me a ride in the Flying Saucer !
Jeffrey

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
I got this eMail with others familiar with the Flying Saucer and Charlie Nicholas

On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Chet Tschetter wrote:

Today I received my weekly notice from Hyman Ltd. and saw the 1951 Crosley LeMans Team Racecar for sale.  I immediately thought of Charlie Nicholas and his “Flying Saucer”.  I then did bit of ‘googling’ and found your website.  I graduated from Fairmont High School in 1954 and occasionally worked for Charlie in 52, 53 and 54.  I only knew his shop on East Blue Earth Avenue and his home on Tilden Street.  Yes, and met Ruby many times.
 
Charlie was short and stout, had a hard time bending over a fender to service a normal car engine except a VW or a Porsche, or an MG or an Austin Healey. He also had a bit of a problem sliding under cars as his shop had no lift, only a creeper, standard floor jacks and stands.  I guess that is where I came in at 5’10” and 155 lbs.  I could bend over and crawl under and Charlie would issue instructions and away we went.
 
I remember his love of Crosleys, a small, economical, well engined, little 4-place car.  I also recall his appreciation of European engineering and his own attention to detail.  At that time it was fix it rather than to replace and I learned a lot from Charlie.  Oh, I could go on and on but won’t bore you with more.  Thanks for remembering Charlie and taking me back on this little trip as well.  Cheers.
 
Chet Tschetter
 


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Re: Charlie Nicholas Story

crosleyshortsport
 

Chet,  Here is a photo I took this past Autumn of Ted DellaCamera from Yankee Crosley Parts. He gave me a ride in the Flying Saucer !
Jeffrey

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
I got this eMail with others familiar with the Flying Saucer and Charlie Nicholas

On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Chet Tschetter wrote:

Today I received my weekly notice from Hyman Ltd. and saw the 1951 Crosley LeMans Team Racecar for sale.  I immediately thought of Charlie Nicholas and his “Flying Saucer”.  I then did bit of ‘googling’ and found your website.  I graduated from Fairmont High School in 1954 and occasionally worked for Charlie in 52, 53 and 54.  I only knew his shop on East Blue Earth Avenue and his home on Tilden Street.  Yes, and met Ruby many times.
 
Charlie was short and stout, had a hard time bending over a fender to service a normal car engine except a VW or a Porsche, or an MG or an Austin Healey. He also had a bit of a problem sliding under cars as his shop had no lift, only a creeper, standard floor jacks and stands.  I guess that is where I came in at 5’10” and 155 lbs.  I could bend over and crawl under and Charlie would issue instructions and away we went.
 
I remember his love of Crosleys, a small, economical, well engined, little 4-place car.  I also recall his appreciation of European engineering and his own attention to detail.  At that time it was fix it rather than to replace and I learned a lot from Charlie.  Oh, I could go on and on but won’t bore you with more.  Thanks for remembering Charlie and taking me back on this little trip as well.  Cheers.
 
Chet Tschetter
 

Re: For Sale: 1951 Crosley LeMans Race Car - $59,500

Jim Bollman
 

I seem to remember John telling me he had upgraded to a Big Block. I know several people that have molded the Crosley Script to attach to the Big Block to make their conversion a bit more stock looking, that is my plan if I ever get my BB installed.

On Mar 24, 2020, at 7:35 PM, seb fontana via Groups.Io <speedoo51@...> wrote:

I was scrutinizing the Lemans Crosley pictures..Looking at the engine I see it has the Crosley script.. But it has four welch plugs? Should only have two, one either side of thermostat housing. Only blocks I know to have four welch plugs are the Homelite/Bearcat Big Blocks [Big bore 2.750]. Then I look at the casting number 308682 [Crosley engine tree,http://crosleyautoclub.com/EngineTree/Crosley_Eng_Tree-3.html .. So its a big Block [2.750 bore] Fageol/Crofton with four plugs And Crosley script; if this is the original block [maybe] then Crosley had it in 1950 when they built the engine.   https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/6610-1951-crosley-lemans-race-car/

Charlie Nicholas Story

Jim Bollman
 

I got this eMail with others familiar with the Flying Saucer and Charlie Nicholas


On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Chet Tschetter wrote:
Today I received my weekly notice from Hyman Ltd. and saw the 1951 Crosley LeMans Team Racecar for sale.  I immediately thought of Charlie Nicholas and his “Flying Saucer”.  I then did bit of ‘googling’ and found your website.  I graduated from Fairmont High School in 1954 and occasionally worked for Charlie in 52, 53 and 54.  I only knew his shop on East Blue Earth Avenue and his home on Tilden Street.  Yes, and met Ruby many times.
 
Charlie was short and stout, had a hard time bending over a fender to service a normal car engine except a VW or a Porsche, or an MG or an Austin Healey. He also had a bit of a problem sliding under cars as his shop had no lift, only a creeper, standard floor jacks and stands.  I guess that is where I came in at 5’10” and 155 lbs.  I could bend over and crawl under and Charlie would issue instructions and away we went.
 
I remember his love of Crosleys, a small, economical, well engined, little 4-place car.  I also recall his appreciation of European engineering and his own attention to detail.  At that time it was fix it rather than to replace and I learned a lot from Charlie.  Oh, I could go on and on but won’t bore you with more.  Thanks for remembering Charlie and taking me back on this little trip as well.  Cheers.
 
Chet Tschetter
 

Re: For Sale: 1951 Crosley LeMans Race Car - $59,500

seb fontana
 

I was scrutinizing the Lemans Crosley pictures..Looking at the engine I see it has the Crosley script.. But it has four welch plugs? Should only have two, one either side of thermostat housing. Only blocks I know to have four welch plugs are the Homelite/Bearcat Big Blocks [Big bore 2.750]. Then I look at the casting number 308682 [Crosley engine tree,http://crosleyautoclub.com/EngineTree/Crosley_Eng_Tree-3.html .. So its a big Block [2.750 bore] Fageol/Crofton with four plugs And Crosley script; if this is the original block [maybe] then Crosley had it in 1950 when they built the engine.   https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/6610-1951-crosley-lemans-race-car/

Re: For Sale: 1951 Crosley LeMans Race Car - $59,500

seb fontana
 

Thanks Jim, great bunch of pictures. I'd take that car for a toot in a heartbeat; all I would have to do is buy it!

Re: coroncvirus.

Jim Bollman
 

For those that don't recognize the Crosley Auto Club's President online name, "Spock" is our fearless leader. So now you have heard from the two most informed people in the club on what is going on for the Nationals. 

So now back to the shop to get those Crosleys ready for the Summer.

Jim...

On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj@...> wrote:

At this time, my opinion is that it all depends on the government.   As long as "shelter in place" orders are in force, we can not have an event.  If they are lifted, the event is on.  From now until July is a long time.  I pray we are out of this mess by then.  In the meantime, stay home, be safe and work on your Crosley my friends !

On Mar 24, 2020 12:52 AM, Mac McBrayer <macswoods@...> wrote:
What is the probability that national meet in Ohio will not take place due to the Coronavivus. I sure want to attend, but Iwill be coming from Arizona, along trip.   Mac...


Re: coroncvirus.

Spock Arnold
 

At this time, my opinion is that it all depends on the government.   As long as "shelter in place" orders are in force, we can not have an event.  If they are lifted, the event is on.  From now until July is a long time.  I pray we are out of this mess by then.  In the meantime, stay home, be safe and work on your Crosley my friends !

On Mar 24, 2020 12:52 AM, Mac McBrayer <macswoods@...> wrote:
What is the probability that national meet in Ohio will not take place due to the Coronavivus. I sure want to attend, but Iwill be coming from Arizona, along trip.   Mac...

For Sale: 1951 Crosley LeMans Race Car - $59,500

Jim Bollman
 

Just found out that the LeMans Crosley is on the market, being sold by Hyman. Good writeup and lots of pictures in the posting. One of the rarest Crosleys in existence with a great history.

https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/6610-1951-crosley-lemans-race-car/

Jim...