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Re: Useless dipstick?!

Richard Williams
 

You need the proper water pipe above the oil stick. Then you can use it. 

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 02:56:12 PM PDT, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:


Park,   A good bright light works well to see the wet oil. Or get a younger helper with a good set of eyes to help out 😀
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 5:27 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Never saw a brass dip stick before, wonder how long they used those.

On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:20 PM, parkhunter@... wrote:

Changed the oil on my 1948 CoBra before putting it to bed for the winter. In the process, I remembered just how useless the dipstick is. 


It’s a brass rod, bent into a loop at the end, and with a scored mark that I assume is the high level for the oil. But clean oil is invisible on the shiny brass dipstick. I usually end up touching it with my finger trying to figure out where it’s actually wet. 


At first I thought this must be a homemade part, but then I noticed a part number (1 ZN-C and a wing?) stamped at the very bottom. 


I suppose if I let the oil get dirty it would show up. But I’m wondering if others have this problem, and what you’ve done to solve it. 


- Park

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Re: Useless dipstick?!

parkhunter@...
 

I assume you are referring to my kludged coolant pipe with a PVC elbow. That actually doesn’t get in the way of the dipstick, although I do need to replace it. 


The dipstick itself drops nicely into a hole behind the starter. 

- Park

Re: Useless dipstick?!

Ron D.
 

Park, I cannot offer any advice on the dipstick problem, but I must comment on the beautifully clean looking engine compartment. Keep up the great work. 

Re: Useless dipstick?!

Butch
 

Park,

Drilling small holes thru it, at the appropriate locations, will help with visibility.

Butch

On 10/20/2019 7:11 AM, Ron D. wrote:
Park, I cannot offer any advice on the dipstick problem, but I must comment on the beautifully clean looking engine compartment. Keep up the great work.??
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Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

seb fontana
 

I had my 47' brake shoes relined with thicker material and clamped them onto respective backing plated each mounted on the metal lathe I have and turned to size after I had turned the drums..Funny note on the drums; while it looked like the drums had been turned [with a hatchet] but were still .020 under 6"..I managed to tru the bearing area and taper area to w/in .002 and got the drums to clean at +.020...

Re: Over Heating

Andy Farley
 

I've been having overheating. I put in the air dams, backflushed the block and radiator, installed a thermostat ( there wasn't one), and I still had overheating. I counted the fins in the radiator and found it to be 7 fins per inch. I know I still need to check the timing and carb adjustment but I didn't want to smoke the engine before I got everything fine tuned so I installed an auxiliary fan in front of the radiator with a 140 degree temp switch mounted on the radiator. Fired it up and about the time the block got up to 220 degrees the aux fan kicked in and the temp dropped down to mid scale on on the Dash. The block temp dropped down to about 180 degrees. I'm making progress. I'm very thankful for all of the great information that everyone has posted. I would be lost without you.

Re: Over Heating

Barry Smedley
 

Did you take off the side plates and clean the gunk out of the block?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Farley
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 3:50 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Over Heating

 

I've been having overheating. I put in the air dams, backflushed the block and radiator, installed a thermostat ( there wasn't one), and I still had overheating. I counted the fins in the radiator and found it to be 7 fins per inch. I know I still need to check the timing and carb adjustment but I didn't want to smoke the engine before I got everything fine tuned so I installed an auxiliary fan in front of the radiator with a 140 degree temp switch mounted on the radiator. Fired it up and about the time the block got up to 220 degrees the aux fan kicked in and the temp dropped down to mid scale on on the Dash. The block temp dropped down to about 180 degrees. I'm making progress. I'm very thankful for all of the great information that everyone has posted. I would be lost without you.

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Re: Over Heating

Richard Williams
 

Do you have the baffles in on both sides of the radiator? My 48 ran hot till I put them in. Also there is one in the top of the hood as well. These make the air pass through the radiator rather than around it. I also rodded out the cores too. My 48 now stays at mid range on the gauge. Rich W.

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 02:36:26 AM PDT, Barry Smedley <BSmedley@...> wrote:


Did you take off the side plates and clean the gunk out of the block?

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Farley
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 3:50 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Over Heating

 

I've been having overheating. I put in the air dams, backflushed the block and radiator, installed a thermostat ( there wasn't one), and I still had overheating. I counted the fins in the radiator and found it to be 7 fins per inch. I know I still need to check the timing and carb adjustment but I didn't want to smoke the engine before I got everything fine tuned so I installed an auxiliary fan in front of the radiator with a 140 degree temp switch mounted on the radiator. Fired it up and about the time the block got up to 220 degrees the aux fan kicked in and the temp dropped down to mid scale on on the Dash. The block temp dropped down to about 180 degrees. I'm making progress. I'm very thankful for all of the great information that everyone has posted. I would be lost without you.

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Re: Over Heating

Andy Farley
 

I haven't removed the side plates yet for 2 reasons. The engine looks like it was recently rebuilt and I don't know how to reinstall the side plates and be sure that they have a good seal. The Air baffles didn't make much difference. It gets hot just idling. That's why I'm looking at timing next, but the distributor won't turn, so I need to get it broke loose.

Re: Over Heating

Dennis Terdy
 

Andy,
I don't comment often here, but I would check the side plates! They are not real easy to take off or reinstall, but my jackets were 3/4 full of hardened mineral, etc. deposits. It did make the difference and stopped my CC from overheating! It costs under $5 for the two gaskets.

Dennis

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:45 AM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
I haven't removed the side plates yet for 2 reasons. The engine looks like it was recently rebuilt and I don't know how to reinstall the side plates and be sure that they have a good seal. The Air baffles didn't make much difference. It gets hot just idling. That's why I'm looking at timing next, but the distributor won't turn, so I need to get it broke loose.



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Re: Over Heating

Barry Smedley
 

I agree with Dennis, I had a motor that had been rebuilt but I checked the side plates and they were full of gunk, they are easy to take off I would advise doing it.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Terdy
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 1:16 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Over Heating

 

Andy,

I don't comment often here, but I would check the side plates! They are not real easy to take off or reinstall, but my jackets were 3/4 full of hardened mineral, etc. deposits. It did make the difference and stopped my CC from overheating! It costs under $5 for the two gaskets.

 

Dennis

 

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:45 AM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:

I haven't removed the side plates yet for 2 reasons. The engine looks like it was recently rebuilt and I don't know how to reinstall the side plates and be sure that they have a good seal. The Air baffles didn't make much difference. It gets hot just idling. That's why I'm looking at timing next, but the distributor won't turn, so I need to get it broke loose.


 

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Re: Over Heating

Richard Helm
 

I echo Dennis’s recommendation to take off the side plates and clean out the deposits. I did this on mine at the urging of Butch and it was full of gunky deposits. I had no problem getting them off and back on again with new gaskets and no leaking, so unless you are sure they have been cleaned out recently I would urge you to do it.

Rich

Re: Over Heating

Jim Bollman
 

The spark plug side is easy to take off and if it is clean you don't have to take off the other side. If you find crude take off both sides to be sure you get it all cleaned out and make sure the deflector plate on the plate where the water pump connects is intact. The deflector plate spreads the water across all the cylinders, it is sometimes corroded away so only cooling the middle cylinders.

Re: Over Heating

dale@servicemotors.net
 

I would definitely remove the side plates and check.  So many times they are filled with dirt or rust which would cause your issue.  Resealing them with new gaskets is very easy.  I just did a engine that looked new or very low hours and the water jackets were just packed with dirt and rust.
 Service Motors has those gaskets, give us a call 
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Dennis Terdy <dennis.terdy@...> wrote:

Andy,
I don't comment often here, but I would check the side plates! They are not real easy to take off or reinstall, but my jackets were 3/4 full of hardened mineral, etc. deposits. It did make the difference and stopped my CC from overheating! It costs under $5 for the two gaskets.

Dennis

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:45 AM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
I haven't removed the side plates yet for 2 reasons. The engine looks like it was recently rebuilt and I don't know how to reinstall the side plates and be sure that they have a good seal. The Air baffles didn't make much difference. It gets hot just idling. That's why I'm looking at timing next, but the distributor won't turn, so I need to get it broke loose.



--
Dennis Terdy

Re: Useless dipstick?!

parkhunter@...
 

I was just thinking about that today as I looked at my Insight dipstick with holes in it. 


Someone else suggested putting a few drops of food coloring in the oil. Erm, maybe? Wondering what food coloring would do in the heat of the engine? Then again it’s used for baking, so maybe not a problem. 


And, thanks for the compliment about the clean engine compartment. Unfortunately, this mostly means I haven’t been able to drive it much. 

Blessings,

Park

Re: Useless dipstick?!

L.E. Hardee
 

I don't think I would add color to the oil.  Why take the chance of harming the engine.  I haven't tried this, but what if you laid the oil stick on a clean paper towel.  The oil on the dipstick would stain the towel up to the oil level.  A bit cumbersome perhaps, but how many times do you check the oil before it gets dirty enough to see on the stick.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:14 PM <parkhunter@...> wrote:

I was just thinking about that today as I looked at my Insight dipstick with holes in it. 


Someone else suggested putting a few drops of food coloring in the oil. Erm, maybe? Wondering what food coloring would do in the heat of the engine? Then again it’s used for baking, so maybe not a problem. 


And, thanks for the compliment about the clean engine compartment. Unfortunately, this mostly means I haven’t been able to drive it much. 

Blessings,

Park

Re: Over Heating

Andy Farley
 

Okay I give, I'll pull the side plates. I'll let you know what I find.

Re: Useless dipstick?!

Butch
 

I'm wit L.E., on this.

I believe that food coloring is water soluble, not too compatible with engine oil.

Butch

On 10/21/2019 8:30 PM, L.E. Hardee wrote:
I don't think I would add color to the oil.  Why take the chance of harming the engine.  I haven't tried this, but what if you laid the oil stick on a clean paper towel.  The oil on the dipstick would stain the towel up to the oil level.  A bit cumbersome perhaps, but how many times do you check the oil before it gets dirty enough to see on the stick.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:14 PM <parkhunter@...> wrote:

I was just thinking about that today as I looked at my Insight dipstick with holes in it. 


Someone else suggested putting a few drops of food coloring in the oil. Erm, maybe? Wondering what food coloring would do in the heat of the engine? Then again it’s used for baking, so maybe not a problem. 


And, thanks for the compliment about the clean engine compartment. Unfortunately, this mostly means I haven’t been able to drive it much. 

Blessings,

Park


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Re: Over Heating

Joe Brownsberger
 

I'm not a Crosley expert, and I'm not sure what kind of pressure the water pump creates, but make sure you hoses are strong. If the hoses are weak they will collapse and restrict the flow.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 8:43 PM Andy Farley <farleya1@...> wrote:
Okay I give, I'll pull the side plates. I'll let you know what I find.

Re: Over Heating

Butch
 

Joe,

Good thought, but not really applicable to the Crosley cooling system.

Butch

On 10/22/2019 5:13 AM, Joe Brownsberger wrote:
I'm not a Crosley expert, and I'm not sure what kind of pressure the water pump creates, but make sure you hoses are strong. If the hoses are weak they will collapse and restrict the flow.