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Re: farmoroad seat

crosleyshortsport
 

One more, and this is 1 inch tubing.


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 8:14 PM jeffrey ackerman <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
More pics

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 8:10 PM crosleyshortsport via Groups.Io <crosleyshortsport=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Re: farmoroad seat

crosleyshortsport
 

More pics


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 8:10 PM crosleyshortsport via Groups.Io <crosleyshortsport=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Re: farmoroad seat

crosleyshortsport
 

Re: Crosley wheels

crosleyshortsport
 

In reference to the wheels looking nicer on a Super sport, At one time, club member, Jim Oliver made up several sets of very well made spacers for the rear hubs. I wad fortunate enough to purchase a set, and it really does make a big difference with handling and looks.


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 12:25 PM Jerry and Kathy <jkmcc@...> wrote:
Here are a couple of pictures of the back of the recessed wheel as requested
I also noticed this one does not have the 2 rivets at each point where the hub meets the outer rim.

Re: Crosley wheels

Jerry and Kathy
 

Here are a couple of pictures of the back of the recessed wheel as requested
I also noticed this one does not have the 2 rivets at each point where the hub meets the outer rim.

Re: Crosley wheels and VC spacers.

Steve
 

For those concerned about the appearance of the stock wheels on the rear of a VC, there were aftermarket spacers available in ½ inch and 1 inch thicknesses.  I have the 1 inch spacers on my VC.  They require longer lug bolts.  In addition to improving the appearance, they allegedly let the roadsters handle better by giving a wider tread width in the rear.

 

-Steve M.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of L.E. Hardee
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:56 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley wheels

 

Can you post a picture of the back side of the more recessed rim?  My initial thought is that someone removed the center hub, reversed it and welded it back in.  The bead width on the recessed rim appears wider and the hub appears to be attached further back on the drop center of the outer rim. 

 

The Crosley style rims were used on many other applications other than the Crosley car, like trailer manufacturers.  I believe they were a purchased item, not made in house by Crosley.  The rim manufacturer may have sold rims for another use that required more of a recess.  Speculation on my part if your deep dish rim is factory made this way and not modified. 

 

The deep wheel would look great on the rear of a VC Crosley.  The stock rim looks lost in the wheel opening on the rear of a HotShot or Super Sports.  Bringing the tire closer to the rear fender would improve the appearance in my opinion.

 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:39 PM Jerry and Kathy <jkmcc@...> wrote:

I was given a couple of Crosley wheels for my Hotshot. When I got them home I noticed they were different in the hub offsets - one matches the ones that I have on the car - the other is totally different - Any idea what the odd one is off of?

When I lay a straight edge across the wheel and take the measurement from the hump by the edge of the hubcap cap and to the hole in the center these are the measurements I get
The one that matches the ones on my car measures approx 1/2" to the hump and 1 5/8" the the center hub hole
The other one measures about 1 1/2" to the hump and 2 1/2" to the center hub hole

Any thoughts?
Thanks, Jerry

Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

fred@...
 
Edited

The front shoe is the "leading" shoe and takes more of the braking force, the "trailing" - rear shoe has less effect. So the primary (front) shoe will be shorter and the rear longer to try to equalize the load as the car travels forward.  But unless you are going to drive your Crosley like a NY taxi, there will be little or no noticeable difference.

Re: Steering wheel removal

Butch
 

Since no one has addressed this in a nondestructive manner, Service Motors does or did, rent a special puller set for removing steering wheels, without damage.

Lacking that, you can use a bearing puller/separator plate, assembled with the flat side to the bottom of the wheel.

Then use a gear puller, attached to the separator plate, and pull against the nut (preferably with a flat washer on top of the nut).

It's a but awkward to maneuver, having an extra set of hands helps, but it can be done.

Butch

On 10/6/2019 5:26 PM, Ron D. wrote:
OK guys, lets hear your best way to remove a steering wheel, without breaking it. I tried screwing a nut on, close to the wheel, but not touching it, then screw a bolt down in the nut, and snug it against the steering shaft threads, and pull up on the wheel while hitting the bolt with a hammer.?? Didn't work for me. I have been spraying it with PB Blaster for several weeks, but that hasn't helped either.
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Re: Crosley wheels

L.E. Hardee
 

Can you post a picture of the back side of the more recessed rim?  My initial thought is that someone removed the center hub, reversed it and welded it back in.  The bead width on the recessed rim appears wider and the hub appears to be attached further back on the drop center of the outer rim. 

The Crosley style rims were used on many other applications other than the Crosley car, like trailer manufacturers.  I believe they were a purchased item, not made in house by Crosley.  The rim manufacturer may have sold rims for another use that required more of a recess.  Speculation on my part if your deep dish rim is factory made this way and not modified. 

The deep wheel would look great on the rear of a VC Crosley.  The stock rim looks lost in the wheel opening on the rear of a HotShot or Super Sports.  Bringing the tire closer to the rear fender would improve the appearance in my opinion.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:39 PM Jerry and Kathy <jkmcc@...> wrote:
I was given a couple of Crosley wheels for my Hotshot. When I got them home I noticed they were different in the hub offsets - one matches the ones that I have on the car - the other is totally different - Any idea what the odd one is off of?

When I lay a straight edge across the wheel and take the measurement from the hump by the edge of the hubcap cap and to the hole in the center these are the measurements I get
The one that matches the ones on my car measures approx 1/2" to the hump and 1 5/8" the the center hub hole
The other one measures about 1 1/2" to the hump and 2 1/2" to the center hub hole

Any thoughts?
Thanks, Jerry

Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

David Reina
 

Hi Butch,

As always I really appreciate your help. I’m just finishing riveting the first set. Its going to be a late night.

Best regards,
Dave

On Oct 10, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

No I don't know for sure, I've disassembled them in all configurations.

The Service Manual shows, the 9" with the short shoe to the rear, but that really means not a lot, given the general nature of the Crosley Service Manual.

Sorry to be of so little help,

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:46 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
Also Butch I have some lining material that I bought a long time ago and which was rough cut into long and short lengths. The short ones are 7 1/2??? and the long ones are longer than the shoes and will need to be cut down. Any suggestion on how to orient the shorter pieces?
On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave


Crosley wheels

Jerry and Kathy
 

I was given a couple of Crosley wheels for my Hotshot. When I got them home I noticed they were different in the hub offsets - one matches the ones that I have on the car - the other is totally different - Any idea what the odd one is off of?

When I lay a straight edge across the wheel and take the measurement from the hump by the edge of the hubcap cap and to the hole in the center these are the measurements I get
The one that matches the ones on my car measures approx 1/2" to the hump and 1 5/8" the the center hub hole
The other one measures about 1 1/2" to the hump and 2 1/2" to the center hub hole

Any thoughts?
Thanks, Jerry

Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

Butch
 

David,

No I don't know for sure, I've disassembled them in all configurations.

The Service Manual shows, the 9" with the short shoe to the rear, but that really means not a lot, given the general nature of the Crosley Service Manual.

Sorry to be of so little help,

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:46 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
Also Butch I have some lining material that I bought a long time ago and which was rough cut into long and short lengths. The short ones are 7 1/2??? and the long ones are longer than the shoes and will need to be cut down. Any suggestion on how to orient the shorter pieces?
On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave

Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

Butch
 

David,

If you're referring to the beveling of the ends of the shoe, yes. That helps keep the brakes from grabbing, at least until they have seated. It also helps prevent the linings from chipping at the ends.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:39 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks Butch. I was just measuring the shoes I removed. They are 8??? Do you have a thought about breaking the ends with a small bevel?
On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave

farmoroad seat

Brian Dlapa
 

hay can I get a pattern of the handle on the passanger seat from someone and a pic of the seat

Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

David Reina
 

Also Butch I have some lining material that I bought a long time ago and which was rough cut into long and short lengths. The short ones are 7 1/2” and the long ones are longer than the shoes and will need to be cut down. Any suggestion on how to orient the shorter pieces?

On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave


Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

David Reina
 

Thanks Butch. I was just measuring the shoes I removed. They are 8”. Do you have a thought about breaking the ends with a small bevel?

On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave


Re: Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

Butch
 

David,

Crosley, like most manufacturers, used a long and a short shoe, this was done for various reasons.

When we had Service Motors, and when I do shoes here, now, I use long linings on all shoes. There is no detrimental reason not too.

Crosleys, especially the 6" cable braked cars, can use all the braking/stopping power that they can muster up.

Butch

On 10/10/2019 8:14 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io wrote:
I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says??? The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1??? shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.??? Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16??? from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave

Question about installing new brake linings on a 47

David Reina
 

I am trying to rivet new brake linings onto the cast iron shoes for my 47 sedan. I am ready to cut the linings and drill them for the rivets but am confused by some information in my old manual. It says” The service brake lining( for use on brake shoes with rivets ) is 1” shorter in the cam end and is assembled on the brake shoe toward the adjustment.” Will someone decipher this for me. Both shoes end up at the cam and all eight linings I removed were the same length and all the same spacing on the shoe. About 7/16” from each end of the shoe. I was hoping to get this done tonight so I could try and install them this weekend. I could go with the length of what was removed but am wondering if I am missing something.

Regards,
Dave

Re: Crofton Steering Column Wanted

crosleyshortsport
 

Kevin, I just finished parting out a 51 Crosley sedan today. I have a good steering column / steering box. If it will work for you, I can ship it. I am in NY, so shipping will be a factor. I will sell the part for $ 125.00. Jeffrey Ackerman  cell# 585-315-7005


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 1:47 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Hi Kevin, I am from Vista, do not have a steering column, but am interested in what you have. Any emblems, I want to have a couple cast. I am also restoring a Crofton bug
(760)855-5513

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:56 AM <mkocci@...> wrote:

Good morning, I am in need of a complete steering column for a Crofton restoration.

It needs to measure 48” from tip to tail.

Any available?  I am in San Diego and have Crosley parts to trade or sell.

Thank you

Kevin

619 426-3114

 

Re: Crofton Steering Column Wanted

James Dlapa
 

Hi Kevin, I am from Vista, do not have a steering column, but am interested in what you have. Any emblems, I want to have a couple cast. I am also restoring a Crofton bug
(760)855-5513

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:56 AM <mkocci@...> wrote:

Good morning, I am in need of a complete steering column for a Crofton restoration.

It needs to measure 48” from tip to tail.

Any available?  I am in San Diego and have Crosley parts to trade or sell.

Thank you

Kevin

619 426-3114