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Re: Available and parts 1947 both

Donna Bomia
 

Asking $7000 for both 1947 Crosley's and lot's of parts.
Located in LaSalle Michigan.
Call Donna.  (734) 819-7463.

Will split up.  OBO
TY

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 12:36 PM Donna Bomia via Groups.Io <bomiadonna9=gmail.com@groups.io wrote:

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Re: Available and parts 1947 both

Mike S
 

Donna, will either of them run & stop?  What condition is the interiors in?

Re: Available and parts 1947 both

christopher cochrane
 

Location? Price? Would love more pics also

On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Donna Bomia <bomiadonna9@...> wrote:

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christopher cochrane
 

Sorry just saw this post

On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Donna Bomia <bomiadonna9@...> wrote:

Asking $7000 for both 1947 Crosley's and lot's of parts.
Located in LaSalle Michigan.
Call Donna.  (734) 819-7463.

Will split up.  OBO
TY

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 12:36 PM Donna Bomia via Groups.Io <bomiadonna9=gmail.com@groups.io wrote:

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Re: Starting Problems in Morning

Paula W
 

This is really helpful information. Thank you. - Paula

On ‎Monday‎, ‎July‎ ‎15‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎43‎:‎16‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:


Hey Don,
Its great that the electric pump helped your problem.  Here is where I disagree with installing a electric pump.  When the crosley was produced they started and ran just fine, if they didn't they would have had a lot of complaints.

Lets look at the underlying issue.  If the car has been sitting for a long time any old car with a carburetor its going to either leak out (which is an issue) or its going to evaporate out.  Either way its going to a few seconds for the mechanical fuel pump to fill the carb back up, as long as the fuel pump bowl gasket has not dried out and is sucking air which is a common issue if the car sits a lot.

This is why i start my car every two weeks to keep the fuel moving and to keep the gaskets from drying out.

I have NEVER had my crosley car boil the gas out of the carb after the car has been run for any length of time, hot starts have not been a problem.  The underlying issue there most of the time the float is too low and not adjusted correctly.
I have seen a lot of other underlying issues which would cause a hot start issue such as a starter bendix issue.  We have all hear the crosley grind and kick outs.
On the Carter WO make sure your accelerator pump is working properly, this too will make it hard to start. 

Just my to cents.


On Jul 14, 2019, at 10:52 AM, PATRICIA GRITTI <donald-gritti@...> wrote:

Big improvement. Installed a 2-4 pound electric fuel pump yesterday. The engine cranked a little then caught & ran.
Butch, thank you for sharing your knowledge of Crosleys.
Don Gritti

On July 2, 2019 at 8:21 PM "Butch via Groups.Io" <butch46988@...> wrote:

Don,

A couple of issues going on; 1, Crosleys are well known for the carbs going dry (both heat boiling the fuel out and leaking it out) when sitting for a period of time. If it's an extended period, often the fuel pumps seem to lose prime if the valves are good, I don't see how this happens, except the fuel boiling out due to its proximity to the exhaust manifold. This causes excessive cranking to bring fuel up from the tank and into the carb.

Starting fluid or a quick dump from a gas bottle (my personal choice) takes care of that and the faster speed of running vs cranking, gets it done MUCH faster.

2, Your choke should close COMPLETELY, with the knob pulled all of the way out. It's a quick adjustment to get it to do so.

The comment of "no gas smell", reassures me of the empty carb bowl.

A quick GOOD solution i, install an electric pump, back by the tank. It can either just have a button, for priming or can run full time, even to the point of replacing the mechanical pump.

Butch

On 7/2/2019 7:50 PM, PATRICIA GRITTI wrote:
Hi Butch
Thank you for jumping in.
The carb is a Carter WO, the one listed in the Crosley shop manual. The engine cranks a long time with no activity. Notice there is no smell of gas after the engine is cranked. When the choke is closed there is 1/8" opening between the choke and the carb wall. After the engine starts by using starting fluid it runs & idles fine.
Don
On July 2, 2019 at 7:02 PM "Butch via Groups.Io" < butch46988@...> wrote:



Howdy Bud,

Please, better define you starting problems

Long cranking, without firing? Will fire, but not keep running? Will try
to run, but dies when you release the starter?

Also, what carburetor have you got, Carter or Tillotson?

More information, please.

Butch


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Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

Paula W
 

The recent thread on startup problems surfaced a question for me.

To help maintain a running Crosley (mine is an early 47 sedan that I can take around the neighborhood), how long should we run the motor under the following two situations. Assume ambient temperatures around 75-85 degrees.

1) for the periodic garage start to just to circulate fluids. (The car remains parked.)

2) for the warmup period before you take off on a drive.

Thank you. - Paula

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

For #1, I usually run the engine long enough that the tail pipe gets warm.  This seems to be long enough to get the moisture out of the muffler so it doesn’t rust out prematurely.

 

For #2, I usually take right off after the car runs.  Mine likes full choke to catch (initially start), half choke & running for about 10 seconds, then push the choke in & take off.  Mine has the Tilliston carb.



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I just subscribed to group

Don Pitchford
 

Greetings,
I'm Don, from Illinois. Crosley club member 3003. Sorry I couldn't join everyone in Ohio last weekend but the workload didn't allow. I did however take my wife to lunch in my '48 wagon; had trouble starting it after it sat for 45 minutes; answered a lot of questions about it from curious onlookers; made it home without having to get a trailer. So, all is normal.
Don Pitchford

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crosleyshortsport
 

Don,  Glad you are out using the Crosley and having fun. Make plans now for the 2020 national meet, July 6 - 12th. Fulton County Fairgrounds, Wauseon, Ohio


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 8:12 PM Don Pitchford via Groups.Io <w9ebk=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Greetings,
I'm Don, from Illinois. Crosley club member 3003. Sorry I couldn't join everyone in Ohio last weekend but the workload didn't allow. I did however take my wife to lunch in my '48 wagon; had trouble starting it after it sat for 45 minutes; answered a lot of questions about it from curious onlookers; made it home without having to get a trailer. So, all is normal.
Don Pitchford

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

Paula W
 

Thank you Mike.

For #1 (maintenance turnover) I had no idea at all.

For #2 (before a drive) I had been previously advised to get the engine of an old car to normal operating temperature before putting a load on it. When I first tried that I was standing in my driveway for close to 10 min watching the temperature gauge before I gave up and just started to driving. It didn't even move a quarter of the way to "N" before I gave up.

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

dale@servicemotors.net
 

A good warm up period is the car gets up to operating temp.


On Jul 15, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Paula W <paula_whitney@...> wrote:

The recent thread on startup problems surfaced a question for me.

To help maintain a running Crosley (mine is an early 47 sedan that I can take around the neighborhood), how long should we run the motor under the following two situations. Assume ambient temperatures around 75-85 degrees.

1) for the periodic garage start to just to circulate fluids. (The car remains parked.)

2) for the warmup period before you take off on a drive.

Thank you. - Paula

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

Paula W
 

Dale -  I have a note that 180 - 190 degrees F measured just above the plugs on the driver's side is normal. May I consider this "operating temp"?

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

Paula W
 

Sorry - to be clear I was first considering the "N" on the temperature gauge as the target for warm up. I'm now wondering if I should just use the temperature gun until I get a feel for it. I'll have to try again but I'm pretty sure I got to 180 with the needle still below "N" when I last tried.

I know we can warm a car up with easy driving to start with. I'm trying to find the sweet spot of pre-motion warmup to driving warmup.

And yes, I may be over-analyzing this.

Re: Startup Timing - maintenance and pre-drive

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Perfect 


On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Paula W <paula_whitney@...> wrote:

Dale -  I have a note that 180 - 190 degrees F measured just above the plugs on the driver's side is normal. May I consider this "operating temp"?

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Mike S
 

What part of IL are you in Don?  I'm in southern IL 1 hour south of Effingham.  We have a '48 wagon also.  What color is yours?
Mike Saltsgaver

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Don Pitchford
 

Mike,
I live in Springfield, IL. Our membership in the directory shows up as Don and Claudia. The Don that was in Waverly, IL was my Dad. He passed away 2 years ago. The '48 wagon is his old Yellow one. It was at the Illinois Regional a time or 2 in the late 1990s.
Don Pitchford

On Monday, July 15, 2019, 11:08:06 PM CDT, Mike S <miso7@...> wrote:


What part of IL are you in Don?  I'm in southern IL 1 hour south of Effingham.  We have a '48 wagon also.  What color is yours?
Mike Saltsgaver

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Saltsgaver, Mike
 

We are new to the club & just bought our car a month ago.  We hope to make it to the Illinois meet this year, but it is near the same time as the Studebaker convention. 

Mike S



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James Hudson
 

Hello Don and Mike, I joined the Club a few months back ('52 Station Wagon) and I have found it to be the most welcoming group of people. There are several Crosley experts who donate generously of their time on the two websites and everyone is very friendly and supportive. I also didn't get a chance to get to Wauseon this year but I'm planning on 2020. Hope to see you there! -Jim

PS. Unsolicited advice from a newbie-Don't forget about the oil filter thing! :-)

Re: I just subscribed to group

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

I joined the club in January but didn’t get a car purchased till a month ago.  Did make it to Wauseon & had a fun time, although it’s the smallest of the meets we attend & had to adjust our expectations a little.  We found that the major vendors are very helpful & friendly. 

Mike S



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Jerry and Kathy
 

Hi, new member from the Pacific Northwest (Seattle area),

Proud owner of a 49’ Hotshot and a Crosley powered welder. I also have 42’ Packard 120 convertible.

Looking forward to being part of the Crosley family!