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Re: CD windshield install
Took another good look at our windshield - we have a lot of those line marks in the rubber from his use of the hook tool. They would be objectionable to anyone considering show quality, which he knew we were not. We just had a broken windshield to replace. Here's where perhaps warming the rubber would have helped, and a little more time and care as Dale suggests. (Or maybe that's where the spoon comes in too?)
BTW, I think the Superglue may have been a suggestion to seal where the rubber edges come together. We have a very teeny gap. He deliberately did not put that seam at the bottom of the center post due to the possibility of water/rust. Our original windshield had the seam midway up the passenger side. This glass person put it midway on the bottom of the driver's side. okay - I think I'm done. :-)
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Re: CD windshield install
Dale's comment inspired me to share our story -
I gave up the idea of doing it myself but had the opportunity to watch two others try on our 47 sedan, one an earnest mechanic and one a car glass installer who was recommended by a local restoration shop. The mechanic's unsuccessful attempt was with string. The string kept breaking and cutting the rubber. I suspect he was using the wrong kind of string but the other problem for both attempts was that it seemed like the glass and rubber was all just too big. On the advice of the mechanic we took the windshields back to where they were first cut (templates were made from originals) and asked if they could shave down the edges. They may have tried, but I didn't notice much of a difference. In truth, I didn't realize at the time how delicate and time consuming that could be so the glass cutter was likely very conservative. The next and successful attempt was by the car glass installer using Dale's method. He used a hook (like a cotter pin removal tool). I don't remember a spoon, but he may have had some other device I can't recall. On a towel at a side workbench he set both panes of glass in the rubber, leaving a space in between for the center rubber and trim. The two panes and surrounding rubber were then placed on the car as a unit. I wish I could remember his route around the window, but I recall the top was last before he installed the center rubber and trim piece. And of course he had those suction cups. I helped a little in holding the glass, but with the tools he had he didn't need me much. He was at it a long time and to be fair we still have several marks in the rubber where the hook was being used (no holes or tears, but small lines). It all seemed a VERY tight fit. His suggestion to me for next time is to order a slightly thinner grade of glass. I don't recall the code for it. I just hope I don't have to do this again any time soon (ever, really). Addendum (Found some notes I scribbled when glass guy came):
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Re: CD windshield install
dale@servicemotors.net
Hi Sandy,
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First let me start by telling you it’s not going to be easy they are never fun. The only advice I could really give you is do not rope them in. Use a spoon and a hook and work it in slowly and easily. Use plenty of WD-40 or some sort of lubricant to use on the weatherstrip to make it go in easier. Another piece of advice is to make sure the weatherstrip is good and warm before you start putting it in that usually helps it. Are usually put both sides in at the same time and then install the center divider. As many as I have done it usually still takes me 2 1/2 three hours to put the windshield in. Just font get frustrated. Dale Service Motors
On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Sandy Smith via Groups.Io <tarmaciron=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: CD windshield install
Clell
Peter Berard's advice is good. Two other things might be of help. The slot in the rubber where the strong string is placed can be lubricated with water less hand soap--the non abrasive kind. Provides super slick flexing of the rubber.
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Having installed dozens of window glass in various vehicles I learned that if the actual glass you are working with seems too large and all efforts fail to install it, it is (believe it or not) possible to grind the laminated (not tempered) glass down so it will fit. Go to a good glass company and they will have abrasive discs to be used by an orbital grinder that is used to carefully cut down on the edge of the glass. They will tell you to do the job carefully to not generate any heat. When I badly needed that information the glass company actually gave me free of charge three adhesive backed discs. I went home, and from time to time--so I didn't get carried away doing to much at one time--ground on the side of the glass that was a little too wide. Don't know how much I took off but after a while the glass went in beautifully with help of a couple of people on the outside putting just the right amount of pressure while I pulled the string and used the plastic glass tool in a couple of tough places.
On 4/5/2019 3:41 PM, Jim Bollman wrote:
Here is a method that was posted back in 2013.
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Re: Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget
whistler@...
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Re: Micro Car Show for a Cause
Where is this at
On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Michael Braun <mwbraun@...> wrote:
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Re: CD windshield install
Beautiful wagon
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On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Steve Perry <sperryfish@msn.com> wrote:
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Re: CROSLEY TITLE
Spock Arnold
Early C C tanks.
On Apr 5, 2019 9:45 PM, Steve Perry <sperryfish@...> wrote: Gary sent these photos to me yesterday. This style tank is different than the one on my Super Sports..
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Re: CD windshield install
Steve Perry <sperryfish@...>
Nice car....
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Re: CROSLEY TITLE
Steve Perry <sperryfish@...>
Gary sent these photos to me yesterday. This style tank is different than the one on my Super Sports..
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Re: CD windshield install
crosleyshortsport
Is the rubber new, or has it been around for a while ? I tried to put my windshield in with a rubber from 10 years ago. I quickly realized that the glass was NOT going in. I purchased a "fresh" one from Dave Edwards Crosley parts, and I was able to easily install the glass on my own, mostly with soapy water and just my hands. Only needed a blunt bent tool at the lower corners. Here is s photo of my finished project for inspiration.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 5:41 PM Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote: Here is a method that was posted back in 2013.
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Micro Car Show for a Cause
Michael Braun
DO YOU LIKE MICROCARS? THEN SAVE THE DATE OCTOBER 18, 19 & 20 STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFO
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Re: Temp sensor help needed
I really need to read what I reference. Jeff was the poster but not the original author, Steve Eggert Sr, was, sorry Steve. But since the VP of the club posted it I will accept that as approved for reprinting.
Jim...
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Re: CD windshield install
Here is a method that was posted back in 2013.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------- "Peter Berard" <berard_m@...>07/08/13 #27940 Tony, I use a method my dad taught me in the 40s, when flat windshields were the norm. First, get son tough spall string, I got the nylon kind typically used to snap a chock line. put the rubber over the windshield glass and place the string in the dish washing soap lubricated outside grove. Slide the rubber onto the bottom body flange and force it tight to the outside flange. with someone holding the glass tightly outward to the outside flange. Pull the string from inside the car gently while shoehorning a bit with a bent screwdriver. Work slowly, and you might have to try this several times till ya get the hang of it. Now, I found the present day rubbers to be quite fat so a lot of coursing will be needed. Of course the size of the glass is critical, but I had mine cut using the old glass for a pattern, so I have to blame the rubbers. I'd have made the glass a eighth inch smaller in width and height if I'd known this, but I still got em in. Hope this helps...............p -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have not tried it, so use at your own risk. Jim...
On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Sandy Smith via Groups.Io <tarmaciron=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: CD windshield install
You'll need a "glass paddle". Any glass company will have one. You lip in the two halves individually and then lip in the division rubber last. It would be nice to have a glass suction cup but likely you don't.Take some bar soap in a can or bowl, add a touch of water and stir it up with a paint brush till it foams, brush the foam on the inside of the rubber channel.
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CD windshield install
Sandy Smith
Can anyone provide instruction, tips or tricks on installing windshield glass in a 51 CD.
Fighting with this ! Without success Thanks Sandy Smith
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Re: CROSLEY TITLE
dale@servicemotors.net
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Re: Selling my 48 wagon $6500
Mike S
Tim, I sent you a note. Will discuss with the wife tonight.
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Re: CROSLEY TITLE
Do you have pictures of the tanks?
Dale
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Re: Selling my 48 wagon $6500
I cannot answer that Mike. It was painted when I got it.From what I could see the rockers are solid, the front fenders viewed from inside showed no repairs. Those are always the bad parts. The floor tubs are original and solid but the floor areas around them have been made new with sheet metal. All in all I believe it to be a solid car. Paint is just old and cracking in places.
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