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Re: Temp sensor help needed

Butch
 

The block thread is 5/8" X 18 (as I recall)  fine thread.

The chances of the tube being just kinked and not working, are slim. If it's not working, most likely punctured and leaked the fluid out.

Butch

On 4/1/2019 6:33 PM, Richard Helm wrote:
I'm looking for a little help and advice on the engine temp sensor. I accidently bumped the capillary tube while replacing the battery on my Hot Shot and now the gauge doesn't work. The end that goes into the block appears to be undamaged but there must be a bad spot on the tube. If I could locate the damage on the tube is there any hope in straightening it enough to make the gauge work again? If not, I have a couple other questions to clarify things:
  • Does anyone know the correct thread size where the bulb goes into the block? I bought a brass plug with 3/8" pipe thread but it appears to be a hair too big. I'd like to plug the hole so I can drive the car a little while waiting to get the gauge repaired.
  • Does the backing plate that holds the gauge into the gauge cluster on the dash have to be removed along with the gauge? I took one out about 20 years ago to get it fixed but don't remember this issue.
  • Does anyone have a recommended place to get the gauge repaired now that Bob Potts is no longer doing it?
Thanks for your help.
Rich


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Re: Temp sensor help needed

Vern Barker
 

One can repair these By purchase a replacement gage, Freeze the “blub” (the part that screws in block) so the fluid will not leak out. Cut the old “bulb” off leaving enough tube to solder new bulb cut the new froze bulb. With a peace of 1/8 inch ID.  tube spice the new bulb to the original tube  then solder.
Note: You may want to make the spice so it will be under the dash out of site.
          Install new blub and gage in freezer Do not cut until you are ready to spice the two together.
          Dry Ice is best if one can fine it.
Good luck.
Vern
 

From: Butch via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:25 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Temp sensor help needed
 
The block thread is 5/8" X 18 (as I recall)  fine thread.

The chances of the tube being just kinked and not working, are slim. If it's not working, most likely punctured and leaked the fluid out.

Butch

On 4/1/2019 6:33 PM, Richard Helm wrote:
I'm looking for a little help and advice on the engine temp sensor. I accidently bumped the capillary tube while replacing the battery on my Hot Shot and now the gauge doesn't work. The end that goes into the block appears to be undamaged but there must be a bad spot on the tube. If I could locate the damage on the tube is there any hope in straightening it enough to make the gauge work again? If not, I have a couple other questions to clarify things:
  • Does anyone know the correct thread size where the bulb goes into the block? I bought a brass plug with 3/8" pipe thread but it appears to be a hair too big. I'd like to plug the hole so I can drive the car a little while waiting to get the gauge repaired.
  • Does the backing plate that holds the gauge into the gauge cluster on the dash have to be removed along with the gauge? I took one out about 20 years ago to get it fixed but don't remember this issue.
  • Does anyone have a recommended place to get the gauge repaired now that Bob Potts is no longer doing it?
Thanks for your help.
Rich


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Re: Temp sensor help needed

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Thank you Vern,
Repairing temp. gauges has been one of several "You can't get there from here." Crosley mysteries. Your description makes the fix easy.
Don

On April 1, 2019 at 10:31 PM Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:

One can repair these By purchase a replacement gage, Freeze the “blub” (the part that screws in block) so the fluid will not leak out. Cut the old “bulb” off leaving enough tube to solder new bulb cut the new froze bulb. With a peace of 1/8 inch ID.  tube spice the new bulb to the original tube  then solder.
Note: You may want to make the spice so it will be under the dash out of site.
          Install new blub and gage in freezer Do not cut until you are ready to spice the two together.
          Dry Ice is best if one can fine it.
Good luck.
Vern
 
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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:25 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Temp sensor help needed
 
The block thread is 5/8" X 18 (as I recall)  fine thread.

The chances of the tube being just kinked and not working, are slim. If it's not working, most likely punctured and leaked the fluid out.

Butch

On 4/1/2019 6:33 PM, Richard Helm wrote:
I'm looking for a little help and advice on the engine temp sensor. I accidently bumped the capillary tube while replacing the battery on my Hot Shot and now the gauge doesn't work. The end that goes into the block appears to be undamaged but there must be a bad spot on the tube. If I could locate the damage on the tube is there any hope in straightening it enough to make the gauge work again? If not, I have a couple other questions to clarify things:
  • Does anyone know the correct thread size where the bulb goes into the block? I bought a brass plug with 3/8" pipe thread but it appears to be a hair too big. I'd like to plug the hole so I can drive the car a little while waiting to get the gauge repaired.
  • Does the backing plate that holds the gauge into the gauge cluster on the dash have to be removed along with the gauge? I took one out about 20 years ago to get it fixed but don't remember this issue.
  • Does anyone have a recommended place to get the gauge repaired now that Bob Potts is no longer doing it?
Thanks for your help.
Rich


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Re: Temp sensor help needed

Butch
 

Don,

Remember, simple is NOT the same as easy.

The "fluid", in the bulb, that your are working with/against, is ether. Highly volatile and flammable.

Dry ice is the key component, freezing the bulb, of the new gauge, while prepping everything is a big key to the success of the project, as is making the splice a good distance away from the back of the original gauge back. It's quite easy to un-solder some of the gauge components.

If you have more questions, before attempting this, e-mail me and I'll try to answer them. I've done this several times.

Butch

On 4/2/2019 9:01 AM, PATRICIA GRITTI wrote:
Thank you Vern,
Repairing temp. gauges has been one of several "You can't get there from here." Crosley mysteries. Your description makes the fix easy.
Don

On April 1, 2019 at 10:31 PM Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:

One can repair these By purchase a replacement gage, Freeze the “blub” (the part that screws in block) so the fluid will not leak out. Cut the old “bulb” off leaving enough tube to solder new bulb cut the new froze bulb. With a peace of 1/8 inch ID.  tube spice the new bulb to the original tube  then solder.
Note: You may want to make the spice so it will be under the dash out of site.
          Install new blub and gage in freezer Do not cut until you are ready to spice the two together.
          Dry Ice is best if one can fine it.
Good luck.
Vern
 
From: Butch via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:25 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Temp sensor help needed
 
The block thread is 5/8" X 18 (as I recall)  fine thread.

The chances of the tube being just kinked and not working, are slim. If it's not working, most likely punctured and leaked the fluid out.

Butch

On 4/1/2019 6:33 PM, Richard Helm wrote:
I'm looking for a little help and advice on the engine temp sensor. I accidently bumped the capillary tube while replacing the battery on my Hot Shot and now the gauge doesn't work. The end that goes into the block appears to be undamaged but there must be a bad spot on the tube. If I could locate the damage on the tube is there any hope in straightening it enough to make the gauge work again? If not, I have a couple other questions to clarify things:
  • Does anyone know the correct thread size where the bulb goes into the block? I bought a brass plug with 3/8" pipe thread but it appears to be a hair too big. I'd like to plug the hole so I can drive the car a little while waiting to get the gauge repaired.
  • Does the backing plate that holds the gauge into the gauge cluster on the dash have to be removed along with the gauge? I took one out about 20 years ago to get it fixed but don't remember this issue.
  • Does anyone have a recommended place to get the gauge repaired now that Bob Potts is no longer doing it?
Thanks for your help.
Rich


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Re: Temp sensor help needed

Jeffrey Gladden
 

I don’t chime on on this stuff often; however, I would send it out and have someone who does this all the time repair it.  I have had a few rebuilt over the years and it was well worth it.  You will be better off getting someone like a Service Motors to do it.  

Just my 2 cents and lessons learned having been involved with Crosleys and other antique cars for many years.  Good luck.

Jeff

On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

Don,

Remember, simple is NOT the same as easy.

The "fluid", in the bulb, that your are working with/against, is ether. Highly volatile and flammable.

Dry ice is the key component, freezing the bulb, of the new gauge, while prepping everything is a big key to the success of the project, as is making the splice a good distance away from the back of the original gauge back. It's quite easy to un-solder some of the gauge components.

If you have more questions, before attempting this, e-mail me and I'll try to answer them. I've done this several times.

Butch

On 4/2/2019 9:01 AM, PATRICIA GRITTI wrote:
Thank you Vern,
Repairing temp. gauges has been one of several "You can't get there from here." Crosley mysteries. Your description makes the fix easy.
Don

On April 1, 2019 at 10:31 PM Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:

One can repair these By purchase a replacement gage, Freeze the “blub” (the part that screws in block) so the fluid will not leak out. Cut the old “bulb” off leaving enough tube to solder new bulb cut the new froze bulb. With a peace of 1/8 inch ID.  tube spice the new bulb to the original tube  then solder.
Note: You may want to make the spice so it will be under the dash out of site.
          Install new blub and gage in freezer Do not cut until you are ready to spice the two together.
          Dry Ice is best if one can fine it.
Good luck.
Vern
 
From: Butch via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 7:25 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Temp sensor help needed
 
The block thread is 5/8" X 18 (as I recall)  fine thread.

The chances of the tube being just kinked and not working, are slim. If it's not working, most likely punctured and leaked the fluid out.

Butch

On 4/1/2019 6:33 PM, Richard Helm wrote:
I'm looking for a little help and advice on the engine temp sensor. I accidently bumped the capillary tube while replacing the battery on my Hot Shot and now the gauge doesn't work. The end that goes into the block appears to be undamaged but there must be a bad spot on the tube. If I could locate the damage on the tube is there any hope in straightening it enough to make the gauge work again? If not, I have a couple other questions to clarify things:
  • Does anyone know the correct thread size where the bulb goes into the block? I bought a brass plug with 3/8" pipe thread but it appears to be a hair too big. I'd like to plug the hole so I can drive the car a little while waiting to get the gauge repaired.
  • Does the backing plate that holds the gauge into the gauge cluster on the dash have to be removed along with the gauge? I took one out about 20 years ago to get it fixed but don't remember this issue.
  • Does anyone have a recommended place to get the gauge repaired now that Bob Potts is no longer doing it?
Thanks for your help.
Rich


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Re: Sold: 1952 Station Wagon With Homelite 55 - LA Area of CA - $5500

James Hudson
 

Sorry Mr. Bollman! my earlier message went to you by accident. I was trying to get in touch with Mr. Grimes!
Hello Mr. Grimes, it was nice discussing the 52 Wagon (and Model Ts) with you today. In case my emails don't get through, my email address is <jamespart7 "at" optonline.net>
I'd really appreciate interior pictures of the car.
Respectfully,
Jim Hudson

Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

Jim Bollman
 

Phil Mendola sent me a picture and some history on a 3/4 Crosley powered Midget and was wondering if it still existed. He figured the current owner may not have the history.

Here is what Phil sent me.
"I just started corresponding with an old friend of mine from my hot rod days, back in the '50's & '60's. He sent  me a close up picture of a Crosley powered 3/4 midget race car. This car was raced at the Rochester War Memorial back in the late sixties. I myself  remember going to watch those races back then. The drivers name was Junior Stevens who was from Washburn, Iowa. Junior stayed at my friends house when he was here. He carried the race car in the bed of his pick up. He had a fresh Crosley motor in it, and ran the car in the empty parking lot at Charlotte Beach, to break it in a little bit more, before the race.  The car was also raced at Utica NY. Later he ran the car at a small track near the speedway in Daytona, and won that race.
 
Junior passed away several years ago. My friend doesn't know what happened to the car. It is possible that one of our members may have it now. I am sure if we can find out who, they would be interested in the early history of the car. Writing on the side of the car indicates Salem Speedway, in Salem Indiana. But, since Junior lived in Iowa, it may be that Paul Gorrell ended up with it or knows of it.  ???"

Any idea anyone?


Re: Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

Barry Smedley
 

I work at the Salem Speedway, The car looks a lot like the one that a driver from salem drove His name was jim gettlefinger, I do remember it being white with number 2

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Bollman
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:39 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

 

Phil Mendola sent me a picture and some history on a 3/4 Crosley powered Midget and was wondering if it still existed. He figured the current owner may not have the history.

Here is what Phil sent me.
"I just started corresponding with an old friend of mine from my hot rod days, back in the '50's & '60's. He sent  me a close up picture of a Crosley powered 3/4 midget race car. This car was raced at the Rochester War Memorial back in the late sixties. I myself  remember going to watch those races back then. The drivers name was Junior Stevens who was from Washburn, Iowa. Junior stayed at my friends house when he was here. He carried the race car in the bed of his pick up. He had a fresh Crosley motor in it, and ran the car in the empty parking lot at Charlotte Beach, to break it in a little bit more, before the race.  The car was also raced at Utica NY. Later he ran the car at a small track near the speedway in Daytona, and won that race.

 

Junior passed away several years ago. My friend doesn't know what happened to the car. It is possible that one of our members may have it now. I am sure if we can find out who, they would be interested in the early history of the car. Writing on the side of the car indicates Salem Speedway, in Salem Indiana. But, since Junior lived in Iowa, it may be that Paul Gorrell ended up with it or knows of it.  ???"

Any idea anyone?

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Re: Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

whistler@...
 

John Doyle said... I know he ran the car into the 80s. I have picture somewhere of it at a track in Virginia. After that no idea.

Re: Info Wanted on 3/4 Midget

whistler@...
 

James Graybeal said...Jim Getilfinger(spelling) built the car 1962 or 63. Finished second in 62 or 63 in UMRA points behind Sonny Ates. Car ran for years

Re: Temp sensor help needed

Tim Hamblen
 

Guys, it's just too easy to buy a new gauge off the shelf at any parts store , take the guts out of it and put those in place of the original gauge guts.Jeff Ackerman has done it, I have done several and there was a how to in a past issue of the Quarterly.

Re: Temp sensor help needed

Richard Helm
 

Thanks to all who responded to my request on the temp sensor. I'm planning to send mine in for repair to make sure it's done right.
Rich

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Re: CROSLEY TITLE

christopher cochrane
 

Do you have the vin tag also

On Apr 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Gary Bryant <garybryant@...> wrote:

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Re: CROSLEY TITLE

Gary Bryant
 

No I do not.. you can make your own

 

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Do you have the vin tag also


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Is anyone interested in a 1947 Crosley car title ?  car was parted out years ago  I also have a couple of gas tanks

 

**We have moved locations – our new address is 7695 E. 21st St. Indianapolis, IN 46219. Please make appropriate changes for shipping and billing**

 

 

 

 

Gary Bryant

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7695 East 21st ST.

Indianapolis,IN 46219

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Re: CROSLEY TITLE

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I'd love to have it! A

Re: Temp sensor help needed

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Actually have a modern pneumatic temp gauge mounted under the dash! Never thought to use the modern guts with the Crosley temp. face. Worth a try. Have no idea which quarterly would have the "How to". Any hints?
Don

On April 4, 2019 at 9:31 AM "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:

Guys, it's just too easy to buy a new gauge off the shelf at any parts store , take the guts out of it and put those in place of the original gauge guts.Jeff Ackerman has done it, I have done several and there was a how to in a past issue of the Quarterly.

 

Re: Temp sensor help needed

Richard Helm
 

For anyone that’s interested, I found the article on p.16 of the Fall 2015 Quarterly. It was submitted by Steve Eggert Sr.

Re: Temp sensor help needed

Saltsgaver, Mike
 

Could someone scan & post that article to the website for us “newbies” who weren’t members in 2015?



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Re: Temp sensor help needed

Jim Bollman
 

Two things, not really appropriate to post articles from past Quarterlies on the net. Black issues are available from our club store for $4/ issue.  If some one wants to mail a copy to Mike that is fine. The second thing, that isn't the article for putting modern guts in a stock garage, Jef Ackerman wrote that story. I think fairly recently. If no one posts it soon I will dig back through back issues and see if I can find it.

Jim...

On Apr 4, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Saltsgaver, Mike <Mike.Saltsgaver@...> wrote:

Could someone scan & post that article to the website for us “newbies” who weren’t members in 2015?


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