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Re: Speedometer Repair

Jim Bollman
 

After checking if it really is the speedometer head or the cable, you will know what to try next. If it is the cable lubricate and make sure there are no sharp turns in the cable, if it is the head you might try a "small amount" light oil in around the drive opening and spin the drive. DO NOT use WD-40, it will eventually gum it up with time.

Jim...

On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:

Anyone have recommendations for (reliable) shops to handle speedometer overhaul? I have both a round speedometer and a square one that make a shrieking sound when you drive them. I believe it's because the whole mechanism has dried out or something is sticking -- both still work sorta of (needle bounce) and it sure would be nice to be able to tell how fast I'm going (within +/- 50% or so).

Thanks!

Re: Speedometer Repair

L.E. Hardee
 

My suggestion would be to unhook the speedo cable from the speedometer and spray the speedometer input with penetrating oil.  The rotating shaft sounds dry to me.  After you spray, rotate the input by hand, then spray a little more.  I would also lube the cable while I had it disconnected.  I have always used vasoline petroleum jelly on the bottom 1/3 of the inner cable only.  It will ride up the rest of the cable as you drive.   If you over lube the top of the cable, the grease can leak out at the speedo head and drip on your legs. 

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM, nobadrivers <scanner2@...> wrote:
Are you sure the issue isn't caused by the cable?  Can you drive the speedometer with an electric drill to eliminate the cable and see if the speedometer still makes the noise?  Just a thought.  Would hate to see you go through the expense of a speedometer tune up only to find out it's the cable giving you the problem. 


Re: Speedometer Repair

nobadrivers
 

Forgot to mention in my post if you do use an electric drill to spin the speedometer use a variable speed drill on the lowest speed.  Tri-Flo Bike Cable Lube works great on the cable too.

Re: Speedometer Repair

Spock Arnold
 

Andy, give me a call when you get a chance.   
Dave Anspach 

On Sep 1, 2018 10:16 AM, Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:
Anyone have recommendations for (reliable) shops to handle speedometer overhaul? I have both a round speedometer and a square one that make a shrieking sound when you drive them. I believe it's because the whole mechanism has dried out or something is sticking -- both still work sorta of (needle bounce) and it sure would be nice to be able to tell how fast I'm going (within +/- 50% or so).

Thanks!

Re: Speedometer Repair

crosleyshortsport
 

Andy,  When you have "bounce" it usually means the cable is ready to break. A new cable will most likely fix the issue. Tri-flow does work well, or lightweight sewing machine oil from Jo-Ann fabrics works well also. Get the zoom spout, easy to reach all areas and control amount needed.
Jeffrey

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 1:11 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Andy, give me a call when you get a chance.   
Dave Anspach 

On Sep 1, 2018 10:16 AM, Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:
Anyone have recommendations for (reliable) shops to handle speedometer overhaul? I have both a round speedometer and a square one that make a shrieking sound when you drive them. I believe it's because the whole mechanism has dried out or something is sticking -- both still work sorta of (needle bounce) and it sure would be nice to be able to tell how fast I'm going (within +/- 50% or so).

Thanks!

Re: Replacing cardboards

crosleyshortsport
 

Andy, just pull both headlight buckets and install cardboards. I used small stainless screws and the flat stay nuts to secure them. Only takes three across the top of each cardboard, the headlight buckets hold them in, and they sit behind the radiator.


On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 10:09 AM Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:
My roundside pickup has no cardboards installed around the radiator. Sure, I could just hack an old box apart and jam something in there (and the prior owner probably would have), but I picked up a set of premade correct ones at the Nationals this year. Can anyone give a rundown on the installation process? Looked in the manual and I'm not seeing where the whole thing is described. 

Thanks!

Re: Replacing cardboards

L.E. Hardee
 

Am I remembering correctly that the factory cardboards were held on by black upholstery buttons similar to that used on the interior cardboard panels?  The ones that had 2 spring wires retaining clips.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 4:05 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Andy, just pull both headlight buckets and install cardboards. I used small stainless screws and the flat stay nuts to secure them. Only takes three across the top of each cardboard, the headlight buckets hold them in, and they sit behind the radiator.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 10:09 AM Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:
My roundside pickup has no cardboards installed around the radiator. Sure, I could just hack an old box apart and jam something in there (and the prior owner probably would have), but I picked up a set of premade correct ones at the Nationals this year. Can anyone give a rundown on the installation process? Looked in the manual and I'm not seeing where the whole thing is described. 

Thanks!


Re: Speedometer Repair

Robert Kirk
 

Graphite NOT oil on gauge cables and all locks.  Petroleum bases attract dirt.  Ditto WD40 and other kerosene bases which dry out and turn to paraffin.

Engine won't start

Joe Lofink
 

Help! I'm restoring a tractor that has a Crosley CIBA engine that I bought used to replace the original Cobra engine. Test ran it when I first bought then cleaned it up for the tractor. This was a couple of years ago. Back on the project now and tried to start the engine and she will not even pop most of the time, even when using starting fluid. I installed new hoses, gaskets, points, condenser, distributor cap, 6 volt coil, wires and plugs. Timing light shows that I have it set at 12 degrees BTDC, points are set at .020 and plugs at .025. While cranking coil wire shows a nice blue spark when I hold it to the block. Check compression and all cylinders are right around 80 psi. Any suggestions on what to try next. 

Re: Engine won't start

Mike
 

Did you Check for spark at the spark plugs ? 


On Sep 1, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Joe Lofink via Groups.Io <lofinjos@...> wrote:

Help! I'm restoring a tractor that has a Crosley CIBA engine that I bought used to replace the original Cobra engine. Test ran it when I first bought then cleaned it up for the tractor. This was a couple of years ago. Back on the project now and tried to start the engine and she will not even pop most of the time, even when using starting fluid. I installed new hoses, gaskets, points, condenser, distributor cap, 6 volt coil, wires and plugs. Timing light shows that I have it set at 12 degrees BTDC, points are set at .020 and plugs at .025. While cranking coil wire shows a nice blue spark when I hold it to the block. Check compression and all cylinders are right around 80 psi. Any suggestions on what to try next. 

Re: Engine won't start

L.E. Hardee
 

80psi seems low.  I would think it would take over 100psi to fire up.   Have you tried putting about a tablespoon or so of Automatic Trans fluid down each plug hole, spin it over a few times and run your compression check again.  The compression should  come up to 110 or more .   Sometimes the cylinder walls dry out while engine is sitting up. 


On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Joe Lofink via Groups.Io <lofinjos@...> wrote:
Help! I'm restoring a tractor that has a Crosley CIBA engine that I bought used to replace the original Cobra engine. Test ran it when I first bought then cleaned it up for the tractor. This was a couple of years ago. Back on the project now and tried to start the engine and she will not even pop most of the time, even when using starting fluid. I installed new hoses, gaskets, points, condenser, distributor cap, 6 volt coil, wires and plugs. Timing light shows that I have it set at 12 degrees BTDC, points are set at .020 and plugs at .025. While cranking coil wire shows a nice blue spark when I hold it to the block. Check compression and all cylinders are right around 80 psi. Any suggestions on what to try next. 


Re: Engine won't start

Joe Lofink
 

Yes I did. Pulled the plug and held it to the block to ground it and got a good spark there.

Re: Engine won't start

Joe Lofink
 

Was wondering about that but couldn't find any specs on compression. I'll give that a shot.

Re: Engine won't start

A50CROSLEYTRK@...
 

Sure about your timing marks ? Some flywheels have too many marks.

In a message dated 9/1/2018 5:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, lofinjos@... writes:

Was wondering about that but couldn't find any specs on compression. I'll give that a shot.

Re: Engine won't start

crosleyshortsport
 

I tend to lean toward the dry cylinders. A crosley that a friend of mine had been working on for several years, had the same problem. Spray some WD-40 into the cylinders through the spark plug holes , let it sit overnight. It still may take 20 times to get it to fire up. I use carb and choke cleaner to fire up my crosleys each year in the spring. Fill that barrel with a good 3 seconds of spray. Be sure to use non-ethynol fuel.


On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 5:56 PM A50CROSLEYTRK via Groups.Io <A50CROSLEYTRK=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sure about your timing marks ? Some flywheels have too many marks.

In a message dated 9/1/2018 5:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, lofinjos=yahoo.com@groups.io writes:

Was wondering about that but couldn't find any specs on compression. I'll give that a shot.

Re: Engine won't start

Gabriel Haddad
 

I just went through cylinder compression issues. I was told 140 to 150 for proper compression.


On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 6:19 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
I tend to lean toward the dry cylinders. A crosley that a friend of mine had been working on for several years, had the same problem. Spray some WD-40 into the cylinders through the spark plug holes , let it sit overnight. It still may take 20 times to get it to fire up. I use carb and choke cleaner to fire up my crosleys each year in the spring. Fill that barrel with a good 3 seconds of spray. Be sure to use non-ethynol fuel.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 5:56 PM A50CROSLEYTRK via Groups.Io <A50CROSLEYTRK=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sure about your timing marks ? Some flywheels have too many marks.

In a message dated 9/1/2018 5:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, lofinjos=yahoo.com@groups.io writes:

Was wondering about that but couldn't find any specs on compression. I'll give that a shot.

Re: Engine won't start

Jim Bollman
 

I have started engines that have set a long time with less than 80lbs so I don't really think that is the problem. If you had bad valves it would be less, probably just dry cylinders and possibly stuck rings that will free up when you get the engine warmed up a few times.

Sounds like you are doing all the right things.

Jim...

On Sep 1, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Gabriel Haddad <super51.g100@...> wrote:

I just went through cylinder compression issues. I was told 140 to 150 for proper compression.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 6:19 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
I tend to lean toward the dry cylinders. A crosley that a friend of mine had been working on for several years, had the same problem. Spray some WD-40 into the cylinders through the spark plug holes , let it sit overnight. It still may take 20 times to get it to fire up. I use carb and choke cleaner to fire up my crosleys each year in the spring. Fill that barrel with a good 3 seconds of spray. Be sure to use non-ethynol fuel.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 5:56 PM A50CROSLEYTRK via Groups.Io <A50CROSLEYTRK=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sure about your timing marks ? Some flywheels have too many marks.

In a message dated 9/1/2018 5:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, lofinjos=yahoo.com@groups.io writes:

Was wondering about that but couldn't find any specs on compression. I'll give that a shot.



Re: Engine won't start

Joe Lofink
 

Only two marks on the flywheel. Pulled the number one plug and brought the Piston up to TDC on the compression stroke and the one mark is center in the window and the other mark is advanced from this one. Timed it on this mark.

Re: Engine won't start

Joe Lofink
 

Just went down to the shop and pulled the plugs and sprayed a bunch of Kroil in each cylinder. Best penetrating oil I ever used. I'll go down in the morning and see if this helped. Thanks for the advice.

Farm O Road Hood Latch Wanted

dalef62
 

I am looking for the hood latch for a Farm O Road.  Anyone have one.  Email me. kimndale97@...