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Re: Crosley Carter Carburetor

crosleyshortsport
 

It will be interesting to see if this does the the trick,  I wonder if You will become the Club carb man. The club suffered a great loss a few years ago, when Chuck Koehler passed away. He made our Tillotson carbs come to life !  He even took the time to make them look new again. Neil Daglow was our Carter carb man, also passed on.


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 12:11 AM nobadrivers <scanner2@...> wrote:
My bushing kit arrived and I installed the bushings in the throttle body today.  I have to say I was very pleased with the installation.  There is no looseness in the shaft now. I'll assemble the carburetor tomorrow and install it onto the car and hope the problem is solved. 

Re: Anyone tried the 4.80-12 Radials?

Ron D.
 

I needed to replace the 50+ year old tires on my project car. On Amazon, I bought 5 - GT Radial Maxtour 145/80R12 tires at $22.20 each, with free prime shipping. It seams every time I go back and look at the tires, Amazon has a different price. They have gone from the $22.20 I paid all the way up to $50, and anywhere in between. Today they are at $27.98. They seem to change the price like the stock market. Anyway, since my car is still under restoration, I have not been able to try them out, but they look like a decent tire. Especially for the amount of miles they will probably see.  I wanted the car tire look, as opposed to the trailer tire look, and these fit the bill.

Crosley frame strength?

Mike <seller432@...>
 

I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Butch
 

Mike,

The front springs are already marginal/under rated for the standard Crosley package, with just a driver in place. Also, if using the Crosley front axle, make SURE that you have the 5/8" axle system, rather than the 1/2".

With increased power comes increased speed and even the 9" brakes (the best ones Crosley ever used) are adequate but definitely NOT overly powerful.

Cracks in the frame, are FAR from unknown, so reinforcing would NOT be just and option, but almost mandatory.

Since you would probably be changing the differential (due to the open vs closed driveshaft), the limitations of the stock Crosley rear end, don't come into play.

Just my idle thoughts,

Butch

On 8/7/2018 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io wrote:
I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 


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Re: Crosley frame strength?

L.E. Hardee
 

I agree with Butch.  I have an "Hook and Ladder" fire truck with a 4 cyl Pinto Ford engine and auto trans.  They did the heavier springs, 6/8 axle, and the 9" brakes.  But didn't reinforce the frame though.  It is only used for parades so doesn't get a lot of high speed use.  

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:
Mike,

The front springs are already marginal/under rated for the standard Crosley package, with just a driver in place. Also, if using the Crosley front axle, make SURE that you have the 5/8" axle system, rather than the 1/2".

With increased power comes increased speed and even the 9" brakes (the best ones Crosley ever used) are adequate but definitely NOT overly powerful.

Cracks in the frame, are FAR from unknown, so reinforcing would NOT be just and option, but almost mandatory.

Since you would probably be changing the differential (due to the open vs closed driveshaft), the limitations of the stock Crosley rear end, don't come into play.

Just my idle thoughts,

Butch

On 8/7/2018 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io wrote:
I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 


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Hot Shot...phrom the 50's

Jaks
 





Re: Crosley frame strength?

Vern Barker
 

why not use the s-10 frame ?
 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

L.E. Hardee
 

Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Anyone tried the 4.80-12 Radials?

Joe Brownsberger
 

The tires I was talking about, I finally received the response I was waiting for. The tires on Coker tire they said they most likely will fit, the 125x12. 


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 8:49 AM Ron Dole <rdole417@...> wrote:
I needed to replace the 50+ year old tires on my project car. On Amazon, I bought 5 - GT Radial Maxtour 145/80R12 tires at $22.20 each, with free prime shipping. It seams every time I go back and look at the tires, Amazon has a different price. They have gone from the $22.20 I paid all the way up to $50, and anywhere in between. Today they are at $27.98. They seem to change the price like the stock market. Anyway, since my car is still under restoration, I have not been able to try them out, but they look like a decent tire. Especially for the amount of miles they will probably see.  I wanted the car tire look, as opposed to the trailer tire look, and these fit the bill.

Re: Anyone tried the 4.80-12 Radials?

Jane Altman
 

The guy who bought my delivery truck put white Walls on and they look really nice.  I'll see if he will share thoughts


On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, 3:05 PM Todd Swangstu <bastardbus@...> wrote:
Strange, I just noticed not only do they make a 145-12 Radial tire they make a radial tire with the bias ply size rating at 4.80-12.  

Has anyone tried these?  I prefer the LOOK of bias plys over common radials.  Do these 4.80R-12 radials LOOK like the 4.80 bias plys?  Same size ?  and how is the handling? 

Anyone have pics of them on their car?  I would love to see how they look.

Thanks!
Todd 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

christopher cochrane
 

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg

On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Robert Connearney
 

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Mike <seller432@...>
 

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

christopher cochrane
 

The stock frame with some boxing would do fine. And a Toyota 22r / 5 speed swap would be awesome and it would right down the road. 

On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:15 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Re: Crosley frame strength?

Jim Bollman
 

Lots of good suggestions. If you want to do a lot less work but get a little more power converting to what a lot of us call a Crosley Big Block would more than double your horse power and not add much if any weight and would require no structural changes.  For those that don't know what a CBB is, the Crosley engine continued with modification and improvements till 1972, under multiple companies. The last two turns of the crank were the Homelite 55 and Fisher Pierce Bearcat 55 outboard boat engines.  The 55s were basically the same engine, they were 59CI because of bigger bower and stroke. They put out 55hp stock and with carb and exhaust improvements can get 60-70hp with no other modifications.Takes a bit of machining to put them back into  car but a stock Crosley crankcase still works. The stock transmission and rear can be used if you don't push the burn outs and such to much.

So that gives you more acceleration, but you still have a crash box 3 speed and 5:17 rear, but the can be upgraded as you go. Under the hood, to the none Crosley expert, it will look fairly stock.

Just another option.

Jim...

On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 

Crosley things around Cincy

Richard Helm
 

Does anyone have recommendations for things to see about Crosley in Cincinnati area? I checked a little online and learned that the VOA museum is only open on weekends and the Crosley estate is not normally open for tours. I'll be visiting there next week and would have Friday open to do something interesting.
Thanks,
Rich

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Robert Connearney
 

An acquaintance has a Crosley wagon, into which he swapped a small Datsun pushrod engine (1300 cc, I think). Uses a Metropolitan rear end (same 4" bolt circle), but it had to be narrowed. Engine is physically similar to a Sprite/Midget, which would be much easier to find, including parts. The Spridget rear end is 42" track, only 2" wider than a Crosley, which could be narrowed a bit with front wheel drive wheels (MG 1100?), all of which have the same 4" bolt circle. I think early Honda Civic wheels would also fit.

At one time, I was going to check into the possibility of using one of those 3 cylinder Japanese/Chevvy (Prism?) engines, which were small, and i think, all alloy. Hard to find now. Could consider a Ford Zetec twin cam (iron block), or Duratec (all alloy). I can't comment on the "fit" of these. Unless a candidate engine came in a rear drive application, you would need to come up with a different transmission, and need an adapter.
Bob Connearney


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike via Groups.Io" <seller432@...>
Date: 8/9/18 9:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

I was looking at mine earlier and I think with some boxing and some extra cross members it would hold up. Not looking to race or beat on it. 
  I’m trying to find specs on doner engine and trans to compare weight difference. 


On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Robert Connearney via Groups.Io <rconnearney@...> wrote:

There's a chap in New England that runs a Chevvy V8 powered Crosley wagon drag race car. He uses the original chassis, strengthened by boxing, and has no problems.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "christopher cochrane via Groups.Io" <Pisarunner@...>
Date: 8/8/18 8:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley frame strength?

Just make a new frame simple box style
image1.jpeg
On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:59 AM, L.E. Hardeeimage2.jpeg<hftsales@...> wrote:
Crosley is such a narrow body.  Wouldn't an S10 frame be too wide even if the wheel base matched?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Vern Barker <romardb@...> wrote:
why not use the s-10 frame ?
 


Carter Carb

Joe Brownsberger
 

Hi, does anyone have a Carter 431sa carburator for sale. thats the same type i pulled off a 48' Crosley engine and it has severe pitting and holes. Now im looking for a new carb.

Re: Crosley frame strength?

Mike <seller432@...>
 

I was thinking of the s10 4cyl platform. About 120hp mated to a 5 speed manual. 98-03 has the aluminum head and plastic intake was told they weigh about 150 w/o accessories. Plus I’d have it tuned to remove emission stuff and remove a/c.  Plus these trucks rot out around here and no one likes them do to under powered so they sell cheap.  
It’s hard where I’m at as every thing was scrapped or is severely rotted and difficult to find there’s 1 junkyard with old cars but he’s so over priced on stuff.  



On Aug 9, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Lots of good suggestions. If you want to do a lot less work but get a little more power converting to what a lot of us call a Crosley Big Block would more than double your horse power and not add much if any weight and would require no structural changes.  For those that don't know what a CBB is, the Crosley engine continued with modification and improvements till 1972, under multiple companies. The last two turns of the crank were the Homelite 55 and Fisher Pierce Bearcat 55 outboard boat engines.  The 55s were basically the same engine, they were 59CI because of bigger bower and stroke. They put out 55hp stock and with carb and exhaust improvements can get 60-70hp with no other modifications.Takes a bit of machining to put them back into  car but a stock Crosley crankcase still works. The stock transmission and rear can be used if you don't push the burn outs and such to much.

So that gives you more acceleration, but you still have a crash box 3 speed and 5:17 rear, but the can be upgraded as you go. Under the hood, to the none Crosley expert, it will look fairly stock.

Just another option.

Jim...

On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Mike via Groups.Io <seller432@...> wrote:

I was thinking of doing an engine swap in my 50 sedan but don't really want to get into building a new frame.  I was thinking a gm 2.2 4cyl from a s10 pickup keeping the efi and the 5spd manual trans. I'm just not sure if the frame will support this? I was thinking of beefing up suspension components for additional weight.  

 

Re: Crosley frame strength?

nobadrivers
 

I wonder if an old Chevrolet Chevette drivetrain would be worth looking into?