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Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Gang, I bought the Crosley "jeep" today. the story goes that it came from a circus where they locked the steering, set a little throttle, and a bear "drove" it in circles under the big top.   Paul Rinehart

Re: Crosley near Dayton

Gene Smith
 

Fixing up the Crosley will be the easy part. Now you have to look for a bear suit…
~Gene Smith~
bearly suitable, in Houston

On Mar 26, 2018, at 1:27 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:

Gang, I bought the Crosley "jeep" today. the story goes that it came from a circus where they locked the steering, set a little throttle, and a bear "drove" it in circles under the big top. Paul Rinehart

Re: Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Gene, I'm fat 'nuff but my legs aren't long enough. the "seat" is clear back over the rear wheel houses. I wondered when I saw pix, the bear story makes sense. the former-former owner is a retired school teacher. maybe he can shed more light.  appears to be a 51-52 chassis, 9 inch juice brakes, engine not stuck.  no paper, have to hope somebody has any old birth cert with a CC or CD matching plate they might part with....  Paul

On 3/26/2018 2:29 PM, Gene Smith wrote:
Fixing up the Crosley will be the easy part. Now you have to look for a bear suit…
~Gene Smith~
bearly suitable, in Houston

On Mar 26, 2018, at 1:27 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:

Gang, I bought the Crosley "jeep" today. the story goes that it came from a circus where they locked the steering, set a little throttle, and a bear "drove" it in circles under the big top. Paul Rinehart

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Re: Crosley near Dayton

Jeremy Rutherford
 

Just couldn’t get it out of your system eh? That thing will be awesome,  I think it needs to go army green though!   

P.S.  I just picked up a braje intake and dual Tillotson’s for the pickup,  still looking for the other bits,  post up a video when you get that bad boy going

Re: Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Jeremy, I figured if you caught it on the mail list and knew it was near Dayton you would laugh and know where it would wind up. the pickup was forlorn enough to grab one's heart but this little orphan stole mine at first sight. congrats on the finds for the pickup, you are moving along.   Paul

On 3/27/2018 12:24 AM, Jeremy Rutherford wrote:
Just couldn’t get it out of your system eh? That thing will be awesome,  I think it needs to go army green though!   

P.S.  I just picked up a braje intake and dual Tillotson’s for the pickup,  still looking for the other bits,  post up a video when you get that bad boy going

Re: Crosley near Dayton

Jeremy Rutherford
 

Haha, yes I thought of you as soon as I saw Dayton,  gave me a chuckle when I saw that you bought it.  Looks like it was a great buy,  I’m sure it would have been on my trailer had it been so close to me

Re: Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

problem is no paper or tag since it was probably used in a circus.  need to hunt around, any body style post war will work since it has been "customized."  bet I find someone with the stuff I will need and transferable.
never know, a real rag-muffin car might find it's way here, like I said,  Crosleys find ME, then I wind up going to get them. this was the closest ever to home. Gene Smith already warned me how hot a bear costume will be in the summer!!   it may be an earlier chassis, has the 9 inch drum brakes but found what looks to be a hydraulic clutch master cylinder being used for the brakes with a plastic remote reservoir.  no speedometer, lots of little  things to worry about if I try to make it streetable. it may just wind up as a parking lot cruiser.   Paul

On 3/27/2018 11:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford wrote:
Haha, yes I thought of you as soon as I saw Dayton,  gave me a chuckle when I saw that you bought it.  Looks like it was a great buy,  I’m sure it would have been on my trailer had it been so close to me
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Re: Crosley near Dayton

David M Perry
 

Paul,  I think it should be called a "Creep"

 Dave Perry        OldSchool Restorations   North Alabama  USA

For Sale: 51 Super Sport and 51 Sedan - Indiana

Jim Bollman
 

There are two Crosleys for sale a 51 Super Sport, needs restored but I think it is all there. A 51 Sedan that is all apart. Also the man has a 73 Volkswagon thing for sale. It has been sitting in a garage for a long time.They are in North Vernon, IN 812-346-7465  His name is Larry Alsop he is a member. He wouldn’t give me a price on anything. I would appreciate if you would post this for me. Also if anybody is interested I can go and look them over, it is less than an hour from me. Barry Smedley <BSmedley (at) hollander.com>

Posted for owner - contact Larry Alsop by phone if interested.

Re: Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Dave,   I was thinking Grizzly or Grizzled but Creep makes a ton (maybe only a half ton) of sense.  right now it's just a lovable little bump on my trailer.  friend wondered if I  couldn't find a bigger trailer.   Paul

On 3/27/2018 2:06 PM, David M Perry via Groups.Io wrote:
Paul,  I think it should be called a "Creep"

 Dave Perry        OldSchool Restorations   North Alabama  USA
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Bear driven circus Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Folks,
the other day someone mentioned that it looked like a former owner had tried to make a Farm O Road copy.  staring at the car, I decided to go do some measuring.  how hard is it to shorten a torque tube drive?   this Crosley has been cut down to a 57 inch wheelbase.  it measures 100 inches from the outside of the pipe front bumper to the back of the body. the arched frame cross member that I suspect belongs over the differential is just inside the back of the body, saying that it started out as an 80 inch wheel base Crosley.  the wide cowl in front of the original windshield has been cut away at the back, placing the home made dashboard just a few inches behind the top of the firewall. everything seems to give more credence to the bear story. it'd take a man on stilts to  reach the pedals while sitting in the seat.
now, do I get it running and stopping, clear coat the raggedy paint to "as found"  or beat a few panels, sand and paint, take it to former glory days?
thank goodness Crosley people have a great sense of humor when others make jokes about circus connections to these cars. I have a friend who can't take a joke on him but insists he wants to see me in a orange/red wig, loose clothing, suspenders, pancaked face, and 2 foot long shoes every time we speak of Crosleys. he thinks he is the only one who can make a joke, gets mad if I jerk his leash. :-)
I will be getting the name of the second owner back and hope he has more history.  beyond restoration is a phrase that well describes this one though it seems pretty solid except the floor pan between the
rear wheel houses.  at the asking price, even if I do nothing but keep it in dry storage, I just could not allow it to become a parts donor or scrap.     Paul Rinehart

Re: Bear driven circus Crosley near Dayton

Jim Bollman
 

I was the one that said it looked like a homemade FOR. The FOR wheelbase is 63" and the pickup box version measures very close to 96" so the dimensions are close. I sometimes haul my FOR in the back of my pickup which also matches.

I didn't pay any attention to the seat placement in the pictures till I just looked back. Some kind of a seat extension will need to be fabricated or leg/arm augmentation if you're going to actually drive it. With the short wheelbase it should be a fun to drive but a little squirrelly.

You will fit right in at the Crosley Nationals, we usually have at least one clown car running around some times more. Some of us are clowns with out the car.

Jim...

On Mar 28, 2018, at 3:26 PM, paul <bikertrash@...> wrote:


Folks,
the other day someone mentioned that it looked like a former owner had tried to make a Farm O Road copy. staring at the car, I decided to go do some measuring. how hard is it to shorten a torque tube drive? this Crosley has been cut down to a 57 inch wheelbase. it measures 100 inches from the outside of the pipe front bumper to the back of the body. the arched frame cross member that I suspect belongs over the differential is just inside the back of the body, saying that it started out as an 80 inch wheel base Crosley. the wide cowl in front of the original windshield has been cut away at the back, placing the home made dashboard just a few inches behind the top of the firewall. everything seems to give more credence to the bear story. it'd take a man on stilts to reach the pedals while sitting in the seat.
now, do I get it running and stopping, clear coat the raggedy paint to "as found" or beat a few panels, sand and paint, take it to former glory days?
thank goodness Crosley people have a great sense of humor when others make jokes about circus connections to these cars. I have a friend who can't take a joke on him but insists he wants to see me in a orange/red wig, loose clothing, suspenders, pancaked face, and 2 foot long shoes every time we speak of Crosleys. he thinks he is the only one who can make a joke, gets mad if I jerk his leash. :-)
I will be getting the name of the second owner back and hope he has more history. beyond restoration is a phrase that well describes this one though it seems pretty solid except the floor pan between the
rear wheel houses. at the asking price, even if I do nothing but keep it in dry storage, I just could not allow it to become a parts donor or scrap. Paul Rinehart


Re: Bear driven circus Crosley near Dayton

paul
 

Jim,
RE: "Some of us are clowns with out the car."   that's what I meant about Crosley folks, if someone is laughing at you, join them. beats the heck out of fighting or blowing up blood pressure.
I thought it was you who commented but didn't want to accuse wrongly. that is why I went out to measure, at first I thought maybe it was a FOR chassis but the bodywork makes the 12" wheels appear in
proportion as 15s do on a jeep. the bodywork is pretty well done, not a backyard hack job, the sides match. it wouldn't take much work to turn it into a passable 5/8 sized jeep, but then the charm goes away.   Paul

On 3/28/2018 3:45 PM, Jim Bollman wrote:
I was the one that said it looked like a homemade FOR. The FOR wheelbase is 63" and the pickup box version measures very close to 96" so the dimensions are close. I sometimes haul my FOR in the back of my pickup which also matches.

I didn't pay any attention to the seat placement in the pictures till I just looked back. Some kind of a seat extension will need to be fabricated or leg/arm augmentation if you're going to actually drive it. With the short wheelbase it should be a fun to drive but a little squirrelly.

You will fit right in at the Crosley Nationals, we usually have at least one clown car running around some times more. Some of us are clowns with out the car.

Jim...

New Crosley of the Month

Jim Bollman
 

Here is your April CotM. Enjoy

http://crosleyautoclub.com/

Jim...

new member

al.leach3@...
 

​Hello All.
I am a new member located in Venice Florida.
I'm beginning to assemble a Crosley engine for a friend who is a member of the Crosley Club.
Right now he is restoring a 52 or 53 Station Wagon.
This question is about the Roto Caps on the exhaust valves. This engine has Roto Caps on all the valves.
They don't all rotate in both directions, some turn only in one direction and some don't turn yet.
I've been soaking them in WD40 and on some I've used PB Blaster to loosen them up.
What's the best way you have found to free them up.
Thank you for your help.
Al

Roto Caps don't turn

Al Leach <al.leach3@...>
 

I have just posted the information below in an email attempting to contact Crosley members.
Hello All.
I am a new member located in Venice Florida.
I'm beginning to assemble a Crosley engine for a friend who is a member of the Crosley Club.
Right now he is restoring a 52 or 53 Station Wagon.
This question is about the Roto Caps on the exhaust valves. This engine has Roto Caps on all the valves.
They don't all rotate in both directions, some turn only in one direction and some don't turn yet.
I've been soaking them in WD40 and on some I've used PB Blaster to loosen them up.
What's the best way you have found to free them up.
Thank you for your help.
Al

Re: Roto Caps don't turn

Spock Arnold
 

Sorry I can't answer your question Al  however I am in Palm Bay about 3 hours from you.   I have been working with Daryll Zeran on getting the Florida Region re organized.  If I can help in any other way, please contact me. I am currently working on a 50 Hotshot . Got lots of spares too.
Dave Anspach 

On Apr 1, 2018 12:03 PM, Al Leach <al.leach3@...> wrote:
I have just posted the information below in an email attempting to contact Crosley members.
Hello All.
I am a new member located in Venice Florida.
I'm beginning to assemble a Crosley engine for a friend who is a member of the Crosley Club.
Right now he is restoring a 52 or 53 Station Wagon.
This question is about the Roto Caps on the exhaust valves. This engine has Roto Caps on all the valves.
They don't all rotate in both directions, some turn only in one direction and some don't turn yet.
I've been soaking them in WD40 and on some I've used PB Blaster to loosen them up.
What's the best way you have found to free them up.
Thank you for your help.
Al

Re: Roto Caps don't turn

Jim Bollman
 

Welcome, sorry for the delay on your postings but new members are moderated to cut down on spam postings and know one was online to approve them till after church and Easter Lunch :-) (good think I didn't take that nap). Future messages should post fairly quickly.

I would not soak in WD40, if you do clean them well in kerosene before installing. WD40 is a water displacement product and over time can gum up things. PB Blaster or other true penetrating oils are fine. I use a mix of 50% Kerosene and 50% Marvel Mystery Oil to soak them. On the other hand Service Motors has brand new ones for $1.50 ea so you may not want to spend to much time freeing them up. They also have service manuals that I highly recommend if you don't have one. There are some clearance that are very specfic to Crosley that can cause damage to the crank and tower shaft if not done right.
https://servicemotors.net/product/roto-cap/ Dave Edwards Crosley Parts have good used ones for 50 cents a piece and sets of 4 for the exhaust valves new for $5. Here is a vendors list with contact info. http://crosleyautoclub.com/PartsSuppliers.html

Crosley stop car production in July 1952 so Wagon must be a 52 to or older.

Hope this helps.


Jim...


On Apr 1, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Al Leach <al.leach3@...> wrote:

I have just posted the information below in an email attempting to contact Crosley members.
Hello All.
I am a new member located in Venice Florida.
I'm beginning to assemble a Crosley engine for a friend who is a member of the Crosley Club.
Right now he is restoring a 52 or 53 Station Wagon.
This question is about the Roto Caps on the exhaust valves. This engine has Roto Caps on all the valves.
They don't all rotate in both directions, some turn only in one direction and some don't turn yet.
I've been soaking them in WD40 and on some I've used PB Blaster to loosen them up.
What's the best way you have found to free them up.
Thank you for your help.
Al

Re: New Crosley of the Month

seb fontana
 

Man that is one nice looking Crosley..!!