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Getting back into the Crosley swing of things.

Kenneth Beach
 

I have been a member here for some years.With years often comes other things to take our time. 

However, my brain has cleared so I am in search of a running Crosley.Ider For Sale, I looked in the photo section, but what I saw was dated '05. Is there a more current location to check out?

Thanks

Kenn in NC


Re: Non Ethanol gas

crosleyshortsport
 

Tim, I did not realize how fortunate I am to have a station with non-ethynol fuel just down the road. The tank you have would cetainly look best. I would try to find a good sealer for it. If not, go to stainless steel. It will be square, however Jackson or his kids or grandkids will never have a problem with it. Dave Edwards has them available. Maybe have Jackson write to Dave for a special youth project deal.

On Jan 15, 2017 3:43 PM, "Steve via Groups.Io" <nutsbolts_9502=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Not this ethanol gas discussion again!

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On Jan 15, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Did you use ethanol gas in it  ?


Re: Non Ethanol gas

Steve <nutsbolts_9502@...>
 

Not this ethanol gas discussion again!

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On Jan 15, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Did you use ethanol gas in it  ?


Re: Non Ethanol gas

Tim Hamblen
 

Did you use ethanol gas in it  ?


Re: Non Ethanol gas

ROBERT L GREGG <capngrog@...>
 

I bought a brand new fiberglass tank for one of my Crosleys.  I'll never have another!  'Nuff said.  I bought a new "square" stainless steel gas tank from David Edwards and have been very pleased with it.


On Sunday, January 15, 2017 11:15 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]
Barry, what if we don't use ethanol gas ? The reason I ask, I know thousands of boats were fitted with 'glass tanks and no problems arose until ethanol gas came along.



Re: Non Ethanol gas

Tim Hamblen
 

Just got home from the Murphy's station. They do sell 87 octane E0 ethanol free gas. Every pump station has a blue nozzle and blue button to push. So that tells me they blend the ethanol in at the pump.But anyway I now have alky free gasoline for my Crosleys. Most everyone has a Murphys close by if there is a Walmart store. Might want to check it out. BTW Murphys is NOT owned  by Walmart in case you don't like Walmart. They just have an arrangement with them for stations on their sites.


Re: Non Ethanol gas

Tim Hamblen
 
Edited

Barry, what if we don't use ethanol gas ? The reason I ask, I know thousands of boats were fitted with 'glass tanks and no problems arose until ethanol gas came along.


Re: Non Ethanol gas

neil1952@...
 

If this helps, I have a nice original gas tank that has been stripped & cleaned out. Has a few small pin holes but could easily be repaired. Will let it go but not sure yet what to ask for it.




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From: "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...>
Date: 1/15/17 8:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] Non Ethanol gas

Since the Youth project car came with a brand new  (old tank but never used) fiberglass tank I have been researching our options. Want to use it since it looks so good and came with the car. But the ethanol gas thing rears it's ugly head. I've been looking into sealers and may go that route (Bill Hirsch makes one) , but I alsogot to thinking that if ethanol is the problem, we just won't use it. The nearest E0 fuel is at a boat marina 40 miles away or we go the AV gas route, available here at our airport but pricey. I was on Puregas.com  checking things out and right here in town a half mile away Murphy just opened a station in front of the Walmart and according to Puregas.com they sell E0. I'm going to check it out later today. That would be sweet .My guess is they keep it in a smaller tank for small engines, boats and older cars. Puregas says it has a "Blue" button whatever that means. Will report back later.


Re: Non Ethanol gas

BARRY SEEL <CROSLEY19@AOL.COM>
 

Trust me on this one! Do yourself a favor, and throw that tank away. The sealers do not adhere well to the fiberglass. I have had too many bad experiences with fiberglass gas tanks, and so did Neal Daglow who made them. I have rebuilt at least 5 engines that had fiberglass gas tanks with alcohol resistant coatings. Once the fiberglass softens, the resin gets around the valve stems, and once the engine cools it hardens. The next time you go to start the engine, the valves will open, but will not close, and you bend all the valves, break the lower tower shaft, and gears. I even had some that the valve broke the top of the piston, and some where the valve head broke and broke thru the combustion chamber. Just have someone make a square gas tank out of sheet metal, using the parts from the old tank.

Barry


Re: Non Ethanol gas

bdredford@...
 

I've done dozens of liners on metal tanks with Kreem fom the motorcycle industry . It needs
a rough surface to adhere so may not work well with glass . Never had it come loose or melt with regular gas but still films with ethanal as it does with everything when old .


On Sunday, January 15, 2017 9:25 AM, Phil Hamilton via Groups.Io <phhfixit@...> wrote:


I haven't used it on fiberglass, but I used caswell fuel tank sealer for a motorcycle and generator tank and it has been great. Easy to use and has held up well

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On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

I would do both, seal and use E0. The sealer will be extra insurance if you mistakenly or have to use E10. Since the tank is brand new this is the best time to seal it. Who knows we may not have a choice in the future to get E0.

Jim...

On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Since the Youth project car came with a brand new  (old tank but never used) fiberglass tank I have been researching our options. Want to use it since it looks so good and came with the car. But the ethanol gas thing rears it's ugly head. I've been looking into sealers and may go that route (Bill Hirsch makes one) , but I alsogot to thinking that if ethanol is the problem, we just won't use it. The nearest E0 fuel is at a boat marina 40 miles away or we go the AV gas route, available here at our airport but pricey. I was on Puregas.com  checking things out and right here in town a half mile away Murphy just opened a station in front of the Walmart and according to Puregas.com they sell E0. I'm going to check it out later today. That would be sweet .My guess is they keep it in a smaller tank for small engines, boats and older cars. Puregas says it has a "Blue" button whatever that means. Will report back later.




Re: Non Ethanol gas

phhfixit@...
 

I haven't used it on fiberglass, but I used caswell fuel tank sealer for a motorcycle and generator tank and it has been great. Easy to use and has held up well

Sent from my I phone

On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

I would do both, seal and use E0. The sealer will be extra insurance if you mistakenly or have to use E10. Since the tank is brand new this is the best time to seal it. Who knows we may not have a choice in the future to get E0.

Jim...

On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Since the Youth project car came with a brand new  (old tank but never used) fiberglass tank I have been researching our options. Want to use it since it looks so good and came with the car. But the ethanol gas thing rears it's ugly head. I've been looking into sealers and may go that route (Bill Hirsch makes one) , but I alsogot to thinking that if ethanol is the problem, we just won't use it. The nearest E0 fuel is at a boat marina 40 miles away or we go the AV gas route, available here at our airport but pricey. I was on Puregas.com  checking things out and right here in town a half mile away Murphy just opened a station in front of the Walmart and according to Puregas.com they sell E0. I'm going to check it out later today. That would be sweet .My guess is they keep it in a smaller tank for small engines, boats and older cars. Puregas says it has a "Blue" button whatever that means. Will report back later.



Re: Non Ethanol gas

Jim Bollman
 

I would do both, seal and use E0. The sealer will be extra insurance if you mistakenly or have to use E10. Since the tank is brand new this is the best time to seal it. Who knows we may not have a choice in the future to get E0.

Jim...

On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Since the Youth project car came with a brand new  (old tank but never used) fiberglass tank I have been researching our options. Want to use it since it looks so good and came with the car. But the ethanol gas thing rears it's ugly head. I've been looking into sealers and may go that route (Bill Hirsch makes one) , but I alsogot to thinking that if ethanol is the problem, we just won't use it. The nearest E0 fuel is at a boat marina 40 miles away or we go the AV gas route, available here at our airport but pricey. I was on Puregas.com  checking things out and right here in town a half mile away Murphy just opened a station in front of the Walmart and according to Puregas.com they sell E0. I'm going to check it out later today. That would be sweet .My guess is they keep it in a smaller tank for small engines, boats and older cars. Puregas says it has a "Blue" button whatever that means. Will report back later.



Non Ethanol gas

Tim Hamblen
 

Since the Youth project car came with a brand new  (old tank but never used) fiberglass tank I have been researching our options. Want to use it since it looks so good and came with the car. But the ethanol gas thing rears it's ugly head. I've been looking into sealers and may go that route (Bill Hirsch makes one) , but I alsogot to thinking that if ethanol is the problem, we just won't use it. The nearest E0 fuel is at a boat marina 40 miles away or we go the AV gas route, available here at our airport but pricey. I was on Puregas.com  checking things out and right here in town a half mile away Murphy just opened a station in front of the Walmart and according to Puregas.com they sell E0. I'm going to check it out later today. That would be sweet .My guess is they keep it in a smaller tank for small engines, boats and older cars. Puregas says it has a "Blue" button whatever that means. Will report back later.


Crofton Top Discussion

Tom Sodaro
 

Hello All, I am diligently working on a Brawny Bug. Have the frame, trans and engine ready to go, but I do not have a top. I know this bug was made in 1959 and sold in 1961. and did not have a top. I see that there are some clean holes in the wheel well. I think it came with the holes from the factory for the top but not sure. Does anyone have some pics of their top, holes of how the top attached and top itself. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Tom S-Illinois. 


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

Tim Hamblen
 

Our upper shock mount on the passenger side is missing but should be an easy fabrication.The thing about the extra leafs of the springs , since you have different lengths you could tune the suspension. Anyway. it was a thought.


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

Jerry Summey
 
Edited

Thanks Fred, boy that looks familiar!
 

In a message dated 1/14/2017 8:16:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fred@... writes:

A couple of pictures if it helps:


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

fred@...
 

A couple of pictures if it helps:


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

Steve <nutsbolts_9502@...>
 

So that means both the coils and the trailing arm are acting as suspension.
Wow!

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On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:31 PM, gaelecsol via Groups.Io <gaelecsol@...> wrote:

The front end of the trailing arm/leaf spring is fixed/stationary on my VC.
 
In a message dated 1/14/2017 7:20:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nutsbolts_9502@... writes:
I think the coil springs are the suspension.
The 'trailing arms' are there to keep the axle from twisting and to keep the axle in Allignment.
Both ends of the trailing arms should be free to pivot.

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On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Time to get this board rolling. The boy and I have been studying the rear suspension of the Hot Shot. Well, mostly me studying and him observing and learning .Anyway, what we have figured out is , that someone put a standard CC or CD rear end and suspension in it. But we have the correct coils coming and shocks. The spring cups (upper) are still there. We can fairly easy fab the lower cups and shock mounts. From what I can see the original "trailing arms" or "radius arms" whatever you wish to call them for the HS are nothing more than the main leaf of a standard leaf spring setup.Take all the extra leafs out , weld on the lower cups and we should be back in business. Now here's where I get to thinking outside of the box so to speak. What if we were to keep one of those extra leafs on top of the main leaf ? Would it help the ride, help the handling, make it too stiff .... etc etc ?? Just thinking out loud and maybe that's bad. Thoughts ??


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

Jerry Summey
 

The front end of the trailing arm/leaf spring is fixed/stationary on my VC.
 

In a message dated 1/14/2017 7:20:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nutsbolts_9502@... writes:
I think the coil springs are the suspension.
The 'trailing arms' are there to keep the axle from twisting and to keep the axle in Allignment.
Both ends of the trailing arms should be free to pivot.

Sent from my I-thing

On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Time to get this board rolling. The boy and I have been studying the rear suspension of the Hot Shot. Well, mostly me studying and him observing and learning .Anyway, what we have figured out is , that someone put a standard CC or CD rear end and suspension in it. But we have the correct coils coming and shocks. The spring cups (upper) are still there. We can fairly easy fab the lower cups and shock mounts. From what I can see the original "trailing arms" or "radius arms" whatever you wish to call them for the HS are nothing more than the main leaf of a standard leaf spring setup.Take all the extra leafs out , weld on the lower cups and we should be back in business. Now here's where I get to thinking outside of the box so to speak. What if we were to keep one of those extra leafs on top of the main leaf ? Would it help the ride, help the handling, make it too stiff .... etc etc ?? Just thinking out loud and maybe that's bad. Thoughts ??


Re: Let's talk Hot Shot suspensions

Steve <nutsbolts_9502@...>
 

I think the coil springs are the suspension.
The 'trailing arms' are there to keep the axle from twisting and to keep the axle in Allignment.
Both ends of the trailing arms should be free to pivot.

Sent from my I-thing

On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

Time to get this board rolling. The boy and I have been studying the rear suspension of the Hot Shot. Well, mostly me studying and him observing and learning .Anyway, what we have figured out is , that someone put a standard CC or CD rear end and suspension in it. But we have the correct coils coming and shocks. The spring cups (upper) are still there. We can fairly easy fab the lower cups and shock mounts. From what I can see the original "trailing arms" or "radius arms" whatever you wish to call them for the HS are nothing more than the main leaf of a standard leaf spring setup.Take all the extra leafs out , weld on the lower cups and we should be back in business. Now here's where I get to thinking outside of the box so to speak. What if we were to keep one of those extra leafs on top of the main leaf ? Would it help the ride, help the handling, make it too stiff .... etc etc ?? Just thinking out loud and maybe that's bad. Thoughts ??

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