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Welcome to the Group

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

Crankup and tiltover towers are becoming more popular for several reasons.

- the safety and convenience of working from the ground

- many hams don't want to climb guyed towers any more

- many of popular new antennas (e.g. SteppIR, Ultrabeam) require more maintenance


This group is open to all amateurs interested in these towers and offers a place to discuss the vendors, tower options, installation, and accessories.

As a manufacturer of the TiltPlate, QuadLock and HexLock accessories for tiltover towers, I've received many questions over the years about tiltover towers. Information about them is available but not found in one place.

The mission for this discussion group is to provide a focal point to share your experience and questions.

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ

http://www.nn4zz.com/tiltplate.htm


Post your tower pictures here

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

Your tower pictures are welcome here.

Please post pictures of your setup in the photo section and set up the album using you CALL as the album name.

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ


Post your links here

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

You are welcome to post links in the "Links" section.

Links can be to to your favorite product vendors, your web page, pictures or videos.

Anything related to crankup and tiltover towers is welcome.

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ


Introduce yourself to the group

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

You are encouraged to post an introduction to the group.

- How long have you been a ham and your interests

- what is your experience with crankup and tiltover towers

- what products do you have, or would like to have

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ



Here is my intro.....

I've been a ham since 1964 and my interests are CW and DXing. I belong to a great club here in Atlanta, the SEDXC. I have 4 tiltover towers and manufacture safety and convenience products for tiltover towers to allow maintenance from the ground for yagi, quad and hexbeam type antennas.

My station web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/index.htm

My product web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/tiltplate.htm


Re: Introduce yourself to the group

John Kuklewicz N7ZN <kukl@...>
 

As requested, an introduction:

Originally licensed as WA1MIP (WN1MIP) in early 70's. Inactive for long time due to career and apartment/condo living.
25+ years as Electrical Engineer in San Jose, CA area specializing in Analog circuit design.
Moved to Idaho in late 90's and relicensed as KQ6WC (in CA) and then N7ZN.

Interested in DXing, contesting (little pistol category) and general QSOs.

Very soon will be installing a Tashjian LM-354E (waiting for factory to put it on a truck 'any day now') with a Steppir DB-18E (parts kit in my shop awaiting assembly), motivated by an M2 Orion 2800/Green Heron. Have a TiltPLate unit in hand. This was a key component in my decision to go with a crankup/tiltover tower.

I am simply amazed at the mass of details and bits and pieces involved in installing one of these systems.

Complicating this process is an overall power issue - my home is off grid - all solar power - so very careful attention has been paid to power consumption issues.

Hoping to learn more about crankup tower installation and maintenance.

vy 73 John N7ZN


On 8/16/2012 6:20 AM, NN4ZZ wrote:
 

You are encouraged to post an introduction to the group.

- How long have you been a ham and your interests

- what is your experience with crankup and tiltover towers

- what products do you have, or would like to have

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ

Here is my intro.....

I've been a ham since 1964 and my interests are CW and DXing. I belong to a great club here in Atlanta, the SEDXC. I have 4 tiltover towers and manufacture safety and convenience products for tiltover towers to allow maintenance from the ground for yagi, quad and hexbeam type antennas.

My station web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/index.htm

My product web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/tiltplate.htm

...snip...


Re: Introduce yourself to the group--K9IR

Paula
 

Hello to all--

I have been licensed since 1976 (WN9WNN/WB9WNN). My first and only tower is a HyGain HD54 that went up in July 1990. In retrospect, I wish I had bought a more "robust" tower such as a Triex or US Tower as the HyGain has constrained my antenna options somewhat. However, I was young(er) and inexperienced ;-).

Earlier this summer I built a SteppIR DB18E to replace a C4-XSL. I will have a friend install a SlippNot between the TailTwister and mast as I've experienced some movement of the DB18E on the mast since installation about 6-8 weeks ago.

My interests are DXing, modest contesting, and more recently operating from remote/portable locations. Further details can be found at my qrz.com page.

I'm looking forward to exchanging ideas and info about crank-ups and tilt overs.

73 Paula k9ir

--- In CrankupTiltoverTowers@..., "NN4ZZ" <al@...> wrote:

You are encouraged to post an introduction to the group.

- How long have you been a ham and your interests

- what is your experience with crankup and tiltover towers

- what products do you have, or would like to have

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ



Here is my intro.....

I've been a ham since 1964 and my interests are CW and DXing. I belong to a great club here in Atlanta, the SEDXC. I have 4 tiltover towers and manufacture safety and convenience products for tiltover towers to allow maintenance from the ground for yagi, quad and hexbeam type antennas.

My station web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/index.htm

My product web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/tiltplate.htm


Re: Introduce yourself to the group

Dino Papas <kl0s@...>
 

Greetings to all!  Glad I found this group, very timely.

I'm Dino KL0S (formerly WB6FZN and AL7LZ)…been licensed since high school in 1969.  EE by schooling (University of California at Davis) but spent 26 years active duty Army as an Infantryman (go figure).

Had a HyGain 52SS crank up with TH7DX installed first in Fayetteville, NC (Ft Bragg) then into storage; up again in Hampton, VA, then again into storage, and finally up for 12 more years in Yorktown, VA (I'm tired of digging those holes; have contractor already identified to dig hole and fill with concrete!).  Donated tower and antenna to a local ham when we moved to our final retirement QTH in Williamsburg, VA.

Temporary antenna is a very old HyGain DX-88 to be replaced with my new SteppIR BigIR vertical currently being assembled in the garage.  Have delayed my new tower/antenna install until next spring -- my XYL Toby KL0SS told me to "…do it right."

So I'm in the "design phase" but know that tower will be either a U.S. Tower or, if I win the lottery, a Luso 72' crackup.  Still pondering the antenna between a HyGain TH11DX or an Optibeam (sure would be wonderful to have 40m on the boom).  Will also be putting a shorter VHF/UHF tower, most likely crackup/foldover/Tilt Plate as well.

Will definitely be going with a heavy duty Tilt-Plate for the HF tower (nice to meet you Al at Dayton in May and thanks for spending time discussing your products!).

My planned install site will be probably 200' from the shack (not including height up to antennas) so will be planning for trenching PVC run with power and coax.

Looking forward to the flow of ideas and discussions as I'm sure we all will benefit.

73 - Dino KL0S


On Aug162012, at 0920 AM, NN4ZZ wrote:

 

You are encouraged to post an introduction to the group.

- How long have you been a ham and your interests

- what is your experience with crankup and tiltover towers

- what products do you have, or would like to have

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ

Here is my intro.....

I've been a ham since 1964 and my interests are CW and DXing. I belong to a great club here in Atlanta, the SEDXC. I have 4 tiltover towers and manufacture safety and convenience products for tiltover towers to allow maintenance from the ground for yagi, quad and hexbeam type antennas.

My station web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/index.htm

My product web page is: http://www.nn4zz.com/tiltplate.htm


intro

wc4xned <ned.mountain@...>
 

Hi folks,

I am Ned--WC4X in North Georgia. I presently have a 50ft Rohn 25G bracketed to the house with an 8 element HF log--and other stuff at the top. I have purchased a used Tri X 51 Ft. crank up and the hole will be dug this week. The goal is to move the antennas off the house and to the new crank up tower. I will document the project as it occurs.

73's
Ned
WC4X


Intro

Bob - KB1VUA
 

Hi, I'm relatively new to Ham radio, being first licensed in May of 2011, but I'm jumping in with both feet. I purchased an ex-military AB-577 8-segment guyed mast and launcher with a 3-element SteppIR and Ham-M rotator this spring. I took the whole shooting-match to Field Day this year and plan to do it each year to keep my installation 'temporary'.

While not really a crank-up, tilt-over design, it does crank up and down by 5 1/2 foot segments and I plan to make the launcher base tilt down with a tilt-plate on the SteppIR in the near future.

Bob - KB1VUA


Intro...

Martin <mkoechel@...>
 

Great to see this group established!

I have a Hy-gain 54' on the ground at the moment -- tress have been cleared and almost ready to plant. Thankfully, Hy-Gain still makes the base; but I would like to add a raising fixture so I can service the antennas.

That's the challenge...

Trying to find a welder that can make one - I have pictures of one from a 70' HyGain, examples from US tower, etc...

Looking forward to see how others solved this!

Martin, K9AMG (changing call tomorrow if FCC prediction is right - KW1M)
Bedford, NH


Re: Intro de G3LDI

Roger Cooke
 

Hi.

  I was licenced in 1956 ( Jurassic period ) and have been keen on CW and DX followed by RTTY ever
since.  I just need P5 and will then claim DXCC and all the rest that follow, if I live long enough. I started
with poles and wire, and got my first crank up tower in 1968. It was a three section Strumech, tilt-over too
and it was 80ft tall with a home made 3-el 20m beam and a Mosley Elan stacked above it.

 Now, after moving here, I have six towers. The major one is a 120ft 3 section crank-up and tilt over with a
4-el Steppir and inverted V dipoles. I have another 4-section 80ft that will have a 402CD on the top shortly.
The third crank-up is made from the top two sections of my original 80ft tower which collapsed in a gale.
I had the two sections straightened and with a 20ft pole in the top, I use it for reviewing antennas for Practical
Wireless.  I have a fourth 60ft crank-up supporting the far end of my 20m rhombic, with the sides being
supported by two 80ft fixed towers. 

www.g3ldi.co.uk
 


Regards from Roger, G3LDI
Swardeston, Norfolk.


intro

SV2GWY Demetrius <jim@...>
 

73s from SV land. My nsme is Demetrius, JIM in english and my callsign is SV2 G(eorge) W(ashington) Y(ankee). I'm 46 and I own a small Security Co (Alarm, CCTV, Fire detection, Fleet managing) and very enthousiastic in  "/p" radio activities.
 
I have no relation with army, BUT military stuff is built to last next to everybody. Related or not.
 
I tried to stay away from ham radio, because almost could ruin my family (President of a local ham club) and bought to rebuilt a 35 years old SM vehicle, "radio commander". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVWrAzeGras
 
So far, I can manage both hobbies and of course my wife. (Keep the balance !)
 
My QTH tower is a two (5m) section telescoping triangle Alu tower and first had a 4 element Yagi Titanex, then the EXCELLANT 2 el.Cubical Quad from Lightning Bolt Antennas and few months ago I own a 3 el.SteppIR+30/40m dipole +6m passive + 3 elemnts for 4m (still testing).
 
During installation, I tried to add an 80m Top loaded trapped dipole with R and D as a huge hat (DB36) but with no luck.
 
For portable condition I have my Volvo that has EVERYTHING. A 12m pneumatic tower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CidrjJ5f5Rc  for my spiderbeam 10/12/15/17/20m  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLBUHufs7I, a 60m invrted L also on this tower, another lighter ex-military 12m push up mast +4m whip is a 16m vertical with an antenna coupler, and also on this mast I errect an EMP pretoected (rombic?) dipole (stadium size) from 1,8~30MHz).
 
My next activity will be the Region's 1 Field day 2012, 1 and 2 of  Sept. I hope to recover till then, as I 'm in bed with backache for 2 weeks. I had a surgery operation 4 years ago for disk herniation L4-L5 and still pains from time to time.
 
HEALTH IS WEALTH, and let me tell you a wise SV saying:
 
"WHEN PEOPLE MAKE PLANS, GOD LOUGHS" 
 
Anyway hope everything would be mail !
 
If Monk Apollo accepts us, perhaps would go a small team of SV elit (dream team I could say) to Mount Athos to activate the SX100MA that I manage with other 19 spacial calls.
 
Hope not to get bored reading this MSG,
 
 
                    Enjoy ham radio,
 
 
                                        de SV2GWY / Demetrius
 
 
 
PS: More and more on qrz.com and in  my youtube channel


Hello to all the members of this group

Clint <w4ch@...>
 

I've been licenced since 1976. I have a 55' US crankup/tiltover tower with a 4el Steppir ot 60 feet. I live in a small town on the Coast of North Carolina. I'm active on most bands, love working DX, I'm looking for those last 30 or so remaining Countries.
Clint W4CH


Intro K3BZ

Jerry Keller &#92;(K3BZ&#92;) <k3bz@...>
 

Hi, all.... name is Jerry, QTH EPA, 60’ Heights freestanding aluminum with tilt-over kit, supports a SteppIR 4 el w/40M loop topped by a CC 15 el 2M yagi. The SteppIR is accompanied by a Tilt-Plate with KARlock from our host here on the reflector, AL NN4ZZ.
 
73,  Jerry K3BZ


Tower Base Drawings

w8rjlw8rjl <w8rjl@...>
 

Does anyone hold drawings for a concrete base for a 54 foot crank-up like a Tri-Ex LM-354 that has been approved for 100 MPH winds? I have the drawings by Tri-Ex for the Reinforced Concrete Base RCB-54LT and the LM Series Footing Detail but I think these are for an 80 MPH spec. My drawings show a square concrete base 6 foot deep and 3 foot on a side. This city, Virginia Beach, VA, requires a structure that will withstand 100 MPH winds. Any help appreciated. Ron W8RJL


WD0M Checking In

Joe - WDØM <wd0m@...>
 

My thanks to Al for 1) the Tilt-Plate that has made life SO much easier (and safer!), and 2) hosting this group. 

I was licensed first in 1961 as KNØFNL, then had many call signs after that - the last being NL7Z and WL7M before moving to Colorado in 2003.  The tower in CO is a US Tower TX-455 with the NN4ZZ Tilt-Plate - an invaluable and a pain free, life-extending accessory.

My tower installation is somewhat unique in that the tower base is above ground due to bedrock under it.  It's cemented to the bedrock with rebar "studs", and has been in place since 2003 with no problem at all, even with 90 mph winds and severe ice and snow loads.

I also use a 1/2" electric drill to raise and lower the tower, having installed a Fulton K-2550 winch to make life easier, which replaced the K-1550 originally installed by US Tower.  Details on these modifications are on my web page, if interested.

73 to all,

Joe
WDØM
http://www.wd0m.com








Re: Introduce yourself to the group

N1KON, Jerry
 

Here is my intro,
I go my Novice in 1980 and have held a Technician, General, Advanced and 20WPM Extra. Even as a child I  enjoyed short-wave, etc, when I was pre-teen and teen, I would wait till the “local” TV stations went off the air to see how far I could receive. TV DX it was a blast ……….  For the last 20 plus years I have been a professional photographer and yes I used to use FILM, lol. I always did and still do use Nikon so that is why I jumped on the vanity call of N1KON. Plus in Indiana a vanity plate if close to $50.00 and a ham plate is $8.00, all of my customers read it as NIKON. I enjoy HF Dxing and 6m ssb, 2m ssb, 432 ssb , I have 220ssb not setup yet..
 I have my antennas posted on QRZ.COM  and on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYTh9ZrAEI
that is my old QTH but I have very close to the same setup here, as I just got it up some weeks back. I am penny pincher so most of my antennas and all towers are used. Since the tower is “very loaded” I nest it ALWAYS before storms.  FYI a 4 element SteppIR can be mounted on a folder over by one person and never using a latter. Everything you see on QRZ / youtube on the TX455, I installed totally by myself, from the ground, including setting up the tower, except I hired the foundation done.         
 
Thanks,
   Jerry
                    N1KON
         Professional working Photographer since 1988
I actually used film, how many "photogs" today can say that? lol
           President of  WVARC 2010 & 2011            

 


Re: Intro de G3LDI

N1KON, Jerry
 

I would love to see a picture of the 120 footer!!!!!!!!! I am sure others would also .. wow
that's the size of the huge one they have had at Dayton the last few years..
 
Thanks,
   Jerry
                    N1KON
         Professional working Photographer since 1988
I actually used film, how many "photogs" today can say that? lol
           President of  WVARC 2010 & 2011            

 


From: Roger Cooke To: "CrankupTiltoverTowers@..."
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CrankupTiltoverTowers] Intro de G3LDI

 
Hi.

  I was licenced in 1956 ( Jurassic period ) and have been keen on CW and DX followed by RTTY ever
since.  I just need P5 and will then claim DXCC and all the rest that follow, if I live long enough. I started
with poles and wire, and got my first crank up tower in 1968. It was a three section Strumech, tilt-over too
and it was 80ft tall with a home made 3-el 20m beam and a Mosley Elan stacked above it.

 Now, after moving here, I have six towers. The major one is a 120ft 3 section crank-up and tilt over with a
4-el Steppir and inverted V dipoles. I have another 4-section 80ft that will have a 402CD on the top shortly.
The third crank-up is made from the top two sections of my original 80ft tower which collapsed in a gale.
I had the two sections straightened and with a 20ft pole in the top, I use it for reviewing antennas for Practical
Wireless.  I have a fourth 60ft crank-up supporting the far end of my 20m rhombic, with the sides being
supported by two 80ft fixed towers. 

 


Regards from Roger, G3LDI
Swardeston, Norfolk.



Re: Introduce yourself to the group

Dennis Klipa
 

--- In CrankupTiltoverTowers@..., "NN4ZZ" <al@...> wrote:

You are encouraged to post an introduction to the group.
I was first licensed in 1966 as WN8UFD at the ripe old age of 15. When I went off to college, I had to choose between chemistry and electronics. If figured it would be safer doing electronics at home, so after working my way through college and grad school as a welder and truck mechanic, I became a research chemist for a major chemical company. Now that I am retired, I am enjoying a lot more time with ham radio.

I put up a US Tower HDX-572 with a SteppIR DB36 on top. I built my own tilt plate because I thought I had a better way to support the 80 meter dipole option on the SteppIR and have a 2 meter beam above the SteppIR. It worked out pretty well, but I certainly didn't save much $$ by doing it myself.

I have done a lot of different things in ham radio, but the majority of it probably comes under the heading of public service and Emcomm. But lately, I have been enjoying DX, now that I have a good antenna up in the air.

Best Regards,
Dennis, N8ERF


Intro - Brian K5HFI in Conroe, TX

bski
 

Hi,

I was first licensed in 1970 at 14 as WN4QCZ (WB4QZC a short time later) and was very active at the time. My first "tower" was a 12 foot 2 inch lead pipe that I put 20 year old Gonset tribander I got from an elmer on. It was 3 feet over my roof, but it worked like a dream for a 14 year old kid :-). I went into the military and got forgot about Radio for a while, but kept getting a new license every time I remembered to, one I've forgotten, then N4HFI, then KD5KED and now K5HFI. I am now disabled and am looking to put up a tower that will survive the Hurricanes we see in the Houston area. My plans are one to get one of the shorter Crank-ups, maybe 33 feet or so, that retracts to about 12 feet so I can lower it to about roof level prior to a storm. I live in a river bed, its an awesome RF ground, but the dirt is very, very soft. I actually live next door to a sand pit that supplies soft sand and I could do the same on my lot. I can't do the work myself anymore so I am looking for someone in the area to do it.

73,
Brian
k5hfi