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The next Cal-QRP Club Kit

Doug Hendricks
 

J.C. Martin talked to me after the last meeting and said he had an idea for a really neat kit for the club to do as  club project.  

We ordered the parts and J.C. built the prototype today.  It works great.  We will have 9 kits of parts at the next club meeting and will sell them for the cost of parts and prorated shipping.  You must come to the meeting to get a kit and no, I won't mail one.


More details later when I have the final cost figure.

73, Doug

Doug Hendricks
 

We will be putting the manual, bom and Gerber files online later so it can be reproduced by anyone

Doug Hendricks
 

We have a working prototype.  J.C. Martin delivered the finished prototype to me today at 4:30.  The next Cal-QRP group project will be the W6IPA designed hardware for a K3NG keyer.  Guys, you won't believe what this keyer will do.  For those of you learning CW, check out the features by searching K3NG keyer features.   The practice mode is awesome.  One feature I like is the abc sending feature.  You send the alphabet, and if you send the correct letter, it beeps, if you make a mistake, it bongs.  Pretty neat.  It will certainly improve my sending, and everyone knows I can stand some improvement, a lot, actually.

We will have 8 complete kits, including a neat case that J.C. designed out of acrylic sheet and standoffs.  The cost of the parts is $30, and we are selling 8 kits at the meeting in May.  That is the actual cost of the parts and postage.  All parts needed to build the kit are included.  You must attend to buy a kit.  They will not be shipped.  But don't despair.  J.C. will post the BOM, with part numbers and sources, plus gerber files will be made available so that you can order your own pc boards.  J.C will also post a manual on line that will make it a snap to build.  I will have the kits at the May meeting.

THanks to J.C. for heading up this great project.  He did a ton of work, and I want to thank him publicly for his efforts.  Pictures will be posted soon.  Doug

Rex Vokey
 

Amazing!

I put a basic version together on a breadboard when I was first learning CW.  SUPER capable keyer.  Can't wait to see what you guys have put together!  Wish I could make the meeting.

73,
Rex KE6MT

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:18 PM Doug Hendricks <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
We have a working prototype.  J.C. Martin delivered the finished prototype to me today at 4:30.  The next Cal-QRP group project will be the W6IPA designed hardware for a K3NG keyer.  Guys, you won't believe what this keyer will do.  For those of you learning CW, check out the features by searching K3NG keyer features.   The practice mode is awesome.  One feature I like is the abc sending feature.  You send the alphabet, and if you send the correct letter, it beeps, if you make a mistake, it bongs.  Pretty neat.  It will certainly improve my sending, and everyone knows I can stand some improvement, a lot, actually.

We will have 8 complete kits, including a neat case that J.C. designed out of acrylic sheet and standoffs.  The cost of the parts is $30, and we are selling 8 kits at the meeting in May.  That is the actual cost of the parts and postage.  All parts needed to build the kit are included.  You must attend to buy a kit.  They will not be shipped.  But don't despair.  J.C. will post the BOM, with part numbers and sources, plus gerber files will be made available so that you can order your own pc boards.  J.C will also post a manual on line that will make it a snap to build.  I will have the kits at the May meeting.

THanks to J.C. for heading up this great project.  He did a ton of work, and I want to thank him publicly for his efforts.  Pictures will be posted soon.  Doug

Michael N6MST
 

This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!

John
 

but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips

FT8 is not Ham Radio Try QRP cw or SSB instead

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael N6MST via Groups.Io <mst72481=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!

Michael N6MST
 

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:52 PM, John wrote:
but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips
John,
J.C. W6IPA is going to post a parts list and manual as well as Gerber files for the circuit board. You can download the Gerber files and then send them to a PCB shop (there are a number of them out there, the one I've successfully used in the past is called AllPCB and they're in China) and they will print and mail you the board(s) you ordered. You would be in charge of sourcing everything on the parts list yourself, but with part numbers it should be a pretty simple ordeal. So, you send off the Gerber files to be printed and while that's happening you round up all the parts. When your board shows up in the mail you have everything you need to build the keyer. It's really quite an interesting and educational way to build something!

n3fel@aol.com
 

John,

If you plan to get a gaggle of boards, let me know the cost.  I might split an order with you.  I'd want a few, maybe five boards.  Depends on how big they are.  Howard, n3fel

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Ivan Hazelton
 

I've built one designed by Josh Wood (w0odj) and sourced by Kees Talen (k5bcq)  that uses a Aruduino MEGA  2560. I just received a second PCB from Kees that he designed himself for take advantage of the smaller sized Arduino MEGA 2560 mini, but have yet to break the seal on that one yet. 

If you're interested, there is a forum for the K3NG keyer at radioartisan.groups.io and hosted by the primary software developer, Anthony Good (k3ng)


-Ivan Hazelton, NL5I
(425) 325-4826 google voice


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:52 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips

FT8 is not Ham Radio Try QRP cw or SSB instead

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael N6MST via Groups.Io <mst72481=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!

W6IPA
 

Ivan,

There are a lot of options out there for the K3NG based keyed (i built 5 different versions).
The one that will be available is using a mega 2560 mini.
Nothing revolutionary. 
There is a header for a PS2 keyboard but primary goal was to have something that can be used with a logger in contests.
It’s really a platform that you can use to add features and experiment - there are few digital and analog pins that are on headers to be able to add functions, and a support for 6 memory buttons.
I am slowly adding files on thingiverse - i don’t know that this will be the final repository.


JC


On Apr 23, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Hazelton <ivanhazelton@...> wrote:

I've built one designed by Josh Wood (w0odj) and sourced by Kees Talen (k5bcq)  that uses a Aruduino MEGA  2560. I just received a second PCB from Kees that he designed himself for take advantage of the smaller sized Arduino MEGA 2560 mini, but have yet to break the seal on that one yet. 

If you're interested, there is a forum for the K3NG keyer at radioartisan.groups.io and hosted by the primary software developer, Anthony Good (k3ng)


-Ivan Hazelton, NL5I
(425) 325-4826 google voice


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:52 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips

FT8 is not Ham Radio Try QRP cw or SSB instead

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael N6MST via Groups.Io <mst72481=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!





Rob <roomberg@...>
 

Are the thingiverse  GERBER files the ones to send to China?

Its looking like $50 buys 50 PCBs from JLCPCB.

I would be inclined to press the trigger on this if anyone can tell me these GERBERS are the final GERBERS to build this.

and then

I would share those 50 PCBs.... simple enough ... a buck each.

K3NG and me skywalking:

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/k3ng.jpg




On 04/23/2019 09:35 PM, W6IPA wrote:
Ivan,

There are a lot of options out there for the K3NG based keyed (i built 5 different versions).
The one that will be available is using a mega 2560 mini.
Nothing revolutionary. 
There is a header for a PS2 keyboard but primary goal was to have something that can be used with a logger in contests.
It’s really a platform that you can use to add features and experiment - there are few digital and analog pins that are on headers to be able to add functions, and a support for 6 memory buttons.
I am slowly adding files on thingiverse - i don’t know that this will be the final repository.


JC


On Apr 23, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Hazelton <ivanhazelton@...> wrote:

I've built one designed by Josh Wood (w0odj) and sourced by Kees Talen (k5bcq)  that uses a Aruduino MEGA  2560. I just received a second PCB from Kees that he designed himself for take advantage of the smaller sized Arduino MEGA 2560 mini, but have yet to break the seal on that one yet. 

If you're interested, there is a forum for the K3NG keyer at radioartisan.groups.io and hosted by the primary software developer, Anthony Good (k3ng)


-Ivan Hazelton, NL5I
(425) 325-4826 google voice


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:52 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips

FT8 is not Ham Radio Try QRP cw or SSB instead

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael N6MST via Groups.Io <mst72481=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!






W6IPA
 

Rob,

I can confirm that the file on Thingiverse is the correct one.

JC

On Apr 23, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Rob via Groups.Io <roomberg@...> wrote:

Are the thingiverse  GERBER files the ones to send to China?

Its looking like $50 buys 50 PCBs from JLCPCB.

I would be inclined to press the trigger on this if anyone can tell me these GERBERS are the final GERBERS to build this.

and then

I would share those 50 PCBs.... simple enough ... a buck each.

K3NG and me skywalking:

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/k3ng.jpg




On 04/23/2019 09:35 PM, W6IPA wrote:
Ivan,

There are a lot of options out there for the K3NG based keyed (i built 5 different versions).
The one that will be available is using a mega 2560 mini.
Nothing revolutionary. 
There is a header for a PS2 keyboard but primary goal was to have something that can be used with a logger in contests.
It’s really a platform that you can use to add features and experiment - there are few digital and analog pins that are on headers to be able to add functions, and a support for 6 memory buttons.
I am slowly adding files on thingiverse - i don’t know that this will be the final repository.


JC


On Apr 23, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Hazelton <ivanhazelton@...> wrote:

I've built one designed by Josh Wood (w0odj) and sourced by Kees Talen (k5bcq)  that uses a Aruduino MEGA  2560. I just received a second PCB from Kees that he designed himself for take advantage of the smaller sized Arduino MEGA 2560 mini, but have yet to break the seal on that one yet. 

If you're interested, there is a forum for the K3NG keyer at radioartisan.groups.io and hosted by the primary software developer, Anthony Good (k3ng)


-Ivan Hazelton, NL5I
(425) 325-4826 google voice


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:52 AM John <ve3ips@...> wrote:
but ho does the memeber from toronto,canada who cant attend get a kit?
John ve3ips

FT8 is not Ham Radio Try QRP cw or SSB instead

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM Michael N6MST via Groups.Io <mst72481=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is awesome! I looked at scratch building one a while back but decided my skills were not up to the task. A fabbed PCB and a parts list is doable, though! Thanks for all the hard work J.C. and Doug!







Michael N6MST
 

Hi JC,
I don't have a Gerber viewer on this computer, can you tell me the length and width of the PCB? The fab shop wants it to process the order.

Thanks!

Doug Hendricks
 

84 x 85mm

Doug Hendricks
 

I played with the keyer last night.  I used the send the alphabet feature.  Really cool. Instant feedback.  Does anyone know how to access the receiving options??  There are a couple of modes that I would like to to try.  My version just has paddle input now, as I have not installed the buttons or a keyboard.

W6IPA
 

no - that’s the plates.
the PCB is 80x81mm

JC

On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Doug Hendricks <ki6ds1@...> wrote:

84 x 85mm

Michael N6MST
 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 01:43 PM, W6IPA wrote:
the PCB is 80x81mm
Ok perfect, that's what JLPCB extracted from the Gerber files. JLPCB is also cheaper for this board that ALLPCB is, right now anyway. The cost to print 5 boards is less and the shipping cost is less with JLPCB. Thanks for the update.

Ivan Hazelton
 

Mr. Hendricks, the various modes, hopefully including the one you're looking for, are outlined in the K3NG documentation here < https://github.com/k3ng/k3ng_cw_keyer/wiki/320-Feature:-Command-Mode>
 
-Ivan Hazelton, NL5I
(425) 325-4826 google voice


On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:53 AM Doug Hendricks <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
I played with the keyer last night.  I used the send the alphabet feature.  Really cool. Instant feedback.  Does anyone know how to access the receiving options??  There are a couple of modes that I would like to to try.  My version just has paddle input now, as I have not installed the buttons or a keyboard.

Fred VK2WS
 

If you only have access to the Command Mode using a command button (and not the CLI mode using a terminal program on your computer connected via the USB) then in the file features_and_options.h you enable -
#define FEATURE_ALPHABET_SEND_PRACTICE         // enables command mode S command - created by Ryan, KC2ZWM
#define FEATURE_COMMAND_MODE_PROGRESSIVE_5_CHAR_ECHO_PRACTICE    // enables command mode U

The second feature listed will send random characters to you in groups of 5. First one character, then two, then three etc and you need to reply correctly in order to progress to the next character.
If you have the CLI then the \K command enters training mode and there are a few more options there -Receive Practice,  Keyboard Interactive Receive Practice,  Random Groups Receive Practice,  Wordsworth Receive Practice,  Receive / Transmit Echo Practice
73 Fred

W6IPA
 

Doug,

As of now, the only training options available in the command mode (accessed though the encoder switch or button 0) are alphabet and echo.
There are more options available by accessing the command line interface through a computer (connect usb to a raspberry pi for example).

I think this could be better. I am looking at two options:
   - add a full menu using the encoder/lcd to remove the need to use the CLI for this
   - add some more options mapped to some letters in the command mode.

JC

On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Doug Hendricks <ki6ds1@...> wrote:

I played with the keyer last night.  I used the send the alphabet feature.  Really cool. Instant feedback.  Does anyone know how to access the receiving options??  There are a couple of modes that I would like to to try.  My version just has paddle input now, as I have not installed the buttons or a keyboard.