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Re: CI-V address can I change them?

VE2DX
 

Very good info Micheal...

yes address 00 is often used by hardware also... it is also interresting to know that CI-V is a handshake protocol thus the protocol ids the host (application or device starting the conversation) and destination (likely to be radio).

and response reverses these two to reply .

i will put a post up on this

hope this helps :-P
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Re: CI-V address can I change them?

Michael WA7SKG
 

Also keep in mind that while there is a default address for each model of radio, some applications hardcode these addresses, so if you change the address in the radio, the application may not work.

Further, the universal address of 00 will work with most Icom radios. This address is used by some applications that control only basic functions like mode and PTT. In some radios, there are menu settings that may control whether the radio responds to the universal address.

Normally, about the only reason to change the CI-V address is if you have multiple radios of the same model on a common CI-V bus. In that case, it would be a good idea to refer to a list of default addresses to avoid a conflict.

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Michael WA7SKG


What is the difference between an original Icom CT17 and the VE2DX CT-17B

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the original Icom CT-17 is still available from some Ham Radio retaillers, but it is dating from the 1980s.

the new just release VE2DX CT-17B Icom CI-V hub, is an improved windows 10 plug and play variation of the original ICOM CT17.

Here are the difference
1- ICOM CT17  needs external Power the VE2DX CT-17B does not need ANY external power since it is powered via the USB port.
2- Icom CT17 computer interface is via an RS232c DB25 connector while the VE2DX CT-17B is using an FTDI Chipset USB port.
3- Icom CT17 is 4 CI-V ports and one RS232C DB25, while the VE2DX CT-17B can be 5 CI-V ports, 5 CI-V ports plus an FTDI USB port, 10 CI-V ports, 10 CI-V ports plus an FTDI USB port or 10 CI-V ports plus two FTDI USB port.
4- Icom CT17 all ports are talking to each other, also true on 5 and 6 ports  VE2DX CT-17B but on the CT17B1X series (10, 11 and 12 ports) the CT17B can be split into two seperate 5 or 6 ports hubs thus giving the user more flexibility.
5- Icom CT17 has a rf choke seperating the ci-v ports from the RS232C port, while on the  VE2DX CT-17B  each ci-v and usb ports are isolated fom each othe with RFI protections.
6- Icom CT17 is 4 times larger then the  VE2DX CT-17B .
7- The  VE2DX CT-17B  has magnets under the unit to help attach the  VE2DX CT-17B  to the side of your radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9VK6s632n0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhb7Ef3kXn0&t=11s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKvKKsjOXI&t=59s

We are now shipping if interrested please send me an email at ve2dx@...

hope this helps :-P

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CI-V External Meter Project from VE2 Land

VE2DX
 

Here is a really nice simple (very!) project from a VE2 Friend of mine.

https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/ddufault/external-s-meter-on-icom-radios-with-ci-v-port-d4e783

External S-Meter on Icom Radios with CI-V Port

it is using a Yaesu made external meter adapted using and arduino nano to snif the CI-V protocol to display the S-Meter.

here is a hint I modified the code on mine just a little and added a couple of buttons to ALSO display SWR or Power :-P

Hope this helps :-P

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FTDI vs Prolific USB Adapter chip set

VE2DX
 

If you are shopping for a USB cable to use with ICOM radios, the most important thing to look for is the chipset.

over the years we have encountered thousands of issues with Prolific and pl2303 chip sets, you realy want to stay anway from these.The main issue is that they have been counterfieted in China and the copies are really bad, causing configurations and communication issues.
 
the chip set you want to look for are FTDI chip sets like we use in the CT-17B VE2DX ICOM CI-V hubs, these are the best and really plug and play in Windows 10.

hope this helps :-P
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Re: CI-V what cable should be used!

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ICOM CI-V Reference manual 3rd Edition 1991

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its a little (lot!) old the basic principals are still the same, the commands have had an evolution.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dim7d2ts0yfm3qa/CI-V%20Reference%20Manual%20Third%20Edition.pdf?dl=0

The 7610 CI-V manual is newer and a mutch better reference 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1n932vd4vdl5874/ico-ic-7610_yj.pdf?dl=0

hope this helps :-P

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Project page

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I am working on multiple CI-V designs like the IMK1 (8 memory keypad for 7300, 9700, 7610), IAC(Atas-100/120 CI-V interface) and CT-17B ICOM CI-V Hub and planning other like possibly the external keypad for ICOM radios via CI-V and CI-V Switch to mange collisions and other CI-V protocol issues that will come ... one of these days :-P

please follow us here or on our (yes I am going to say the swear F word!) facebook page

you can also follow our youtube videos were I try to post usefull videos of my projects.

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CI-V address can I change them?

VE2DX
 

The answer is YES, but you must understand that this will affect your applications and something the other devices linked to your radio

The ICOM CI-V protocol uses 2 digit adressing for the ICOM radios, in most cases the addresses are predefine depending on the radios example 7300 is H94.

obviously because of this, most softwares have these addresses defined also by default, thus if you change you CI-V address then you MUST also change your software.

This is common is situation like SO2R where you want to have lets say 2 IC-7300 on the same CI-V bus obviously one of them will be at H94 but what about the otheone, you must change the address of the second one or there will be a conflict.

becarefull, some non-icom CI-V devices like the WX0B first generation Bandmaster need to have the ICOM device address of the originating radio to be able to work thus these may also need to be reconfigured.

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Are all ICOM radios using same CI-V commands?

VE2DX
 

Answer is NO, the CI-V protocol has evolved since the early days on radios like the IC-735 where the commands sets were very basic like freq up and down, set freq and set bands (and more obviously!)

Now you can send your radios in TX, trigger the Voice Keyer, even program your CW Keyer via CI-V and A LOT MORE...

Most ICOM radios manual contain all the CI-V supported by the radios, but we did find some hidden gems like on the 7300 were some 7610 commnds that are REALLY nice that work ALSO on the 7300 that are NOT in hte 7300 manuals!!!  Hint!

there is older german web site that shows this information but only on older ICOM radios, still very good reference http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/index.html

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CI-V what cable should be used!

VE2DX
 
Edited

The answer is simple, always 1/8 audio MONO cables!!

Why

the CI-V hardware is design around the 1/8 audio mono cable so if you start using stereo cables in most cases you will be ok !! BUT!!!

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if a third party device is use or an adapter something you will run into the ring (second connection on stereo cable) being shorted to Tip (first connection) and if the device uses a mono connector then ring maybe in some cases put to ground thus putting to ground your tip and your CI-V communications.

DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES, please always use mono cables for CI-V interconnections.


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pricing info on CT-17B CI-V hub

VE2DX
 

Here we go gang the units are ready shipping, already in USA, UK, Germany and Australia :-P


here are the latest info sorry for the delays its been wild getting the PCBs and hardware in, am in final ajustements for the enclosure that will now include magnets to help.  remenber our USB chip sets are FTDI :)
 

The pricing is as follows;
 
 
CT-17B-5 : 5 CI-V ports no FTDI USB port enclosure with magnets. 50$US plus Shipping.
 
CT-17B-6USB : 5 CI-V ports with one FTDI USB port enclosure with magnets. 65$US plus Shipping.
 
CT-17B-10 : 10 CI-V ports no FTDI USB port enclosure with magnets. 60$US plus Shipping.
 
CT-17B-11USB : 10 CI-V ports with one FTDI USB port enclosure with magnets. 75$US plus Shipping.
 
CT-17B-12USB : 10  CI-V ports with two FTDI USB port enclosure with magnets. 90$US plus Shipping.
 
all CI-V ports have RFI protections.
 
Enclosure is 3d printed to you order.
 
all payments are via Paypal in US dollars.
 
Shipping is via Canadian Postal services and as per their fees.
 
All packaging is following Covid-19 protected procedures that will be clearly documented.
 
let me know if you are interrested.
 
73 Richard VE2DX@...

Early video demo, full picture and video coming soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKvKKsjOXI


The CT-17B ICOM CI-V by VE2DX is now shipping!!

VE2DX
 

here are some links for CI-V transceive that some asked about and the Covid-19 procedure to protect the end users

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9VK6s632n0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhb7Ef3kXn0&t=1s

and the original demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKvKKsjOXI&t=4s

Amworking on full demo of finished units, been a little delayed, but here is the manual https://www.dropbox.com/s/hl4ta7q1w8a17fl/CT-17B%20Manual%20Vers1_01_00.pdf?dl=0

if interrested pls send me email ve2dx@...

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