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Welcome to the new CARS Group

Mark Wardell
 

Hello all,

I should have sent this out earlier, but things got away from me. As you've no doubt noticed the old c-a-r-s@... which has long served our efforts was recently moved to a new web location. Now we are CARS@Groups.io.

Why the change? Well, to be blunt, while at one time Yahoo provided a cutting-edge service with their Yahoo groups they have failed to keep pace with services and a user experience. One of the first comments I got from people who visited Groups.io to create an account (not a requirement by the way) was how ad-free the site was. The bottom line is Yahoo groups was a sideline for Yahoo, but for Groups.io it's their only focus. We now have access to many services that we'll be taking advantage of in the future.

One of those features is sub-groups. Sub-groups are created off of the overall CARS group and allow for people to subscribe to smaller groups discussions. These could be focused on topics, activities, locations, etc.

For example, I would like to ask if there are any Stake ECS people on the list? Would you like a sub-group for your Stake?

Or a sub-group for ECS to talk about their calling?

How about a sub-group for those of us wanted to work to support the repeaters?

I don't want to run amok on these, but they strike me as a way to provide a focus group that's a part of the larger group so we can work together promoting ham radio in the area.

At any rate, that's my summary of why we moved the group, and one of the features I'd like to see us take advantage of now that we have it.

73

Mark
AG7HH


Charles Boling
 

Sub-groups are created off of the overall CARS group
and allow for people to subscribe to smaller groups discussions.
My initial thoughts went like this:

- Sub-groups? There's hardly any traffic in the entire thing!
- Hmmm, actually, sub-groups might indeed spawn more discussion; I
hesitate to post when it's not essential for the whole group, not
wanting to harass everyone. I wouldn't hesitate to post to a more
targeted list.
- Ken might be able to use the subgroup feature to manage his ECS
mailing list(s) and make his life easier -- fewer redundant lists.
- I might be able to convince people to sign onto a low-traffic ECS list
that previously declined because they didn't want a bunch of "club"
chit-chat" in their email
- I like RSS, and wish more sites supported it well. I may or may not
use the feed in this case, since I'd probably be using my email to post
messages to the list anyway (then again, it may actually be easier, if
we start using multiple sub-groups, to manage the feeds and post through
the web interface, vs. creating mail filter rules and juggling different
list address.)

Could you clarify for us how the sub-groups work? Is it:
1. just a subset of people, and messages posted to the sub-group are
only available in that sub-group
2. more like message tags, where all msgs show up in the main group, but
when you post you can choose a category, and when you view you can
choose to only see certain categories?


PS: I'm not sure I know you yet, Mark, but I appreciate and certainly
welcome you contributing your efforts on the, er, group's behalf!

--
Charles Boling, AD7UF
Emergency Communications Specialist
Longview, WA Stake

Mercury Mount St. Helens ERC Nets:
Sun 20:00 147.30 MHz - Woodland
Sun 20:15 147.26 MHz - Longview
http://www.w7msh.org

PGP Public Key: http://www.boling.us/pgp/charles.html

Mark Wardell (AG7HH)
 

When I sent my message the thought did cross my mind to offer a bit of an introduction. For a bunch of you who have been around for years, I will likely seem like a newcomer. I got my introduction to ham radio about 35+ years ago when my brother got his ticket (WB7DES) through an Explorer Scout troop. He then took me along on car run "bunny hunts" so he'd have someone to hang out the window and point the antenna so we could get a barring. I didn't actually get my own license (KE7NKZ) until 10 years ago, I did a little with it but then set it on a self. Then about 2 years ago while I was Bishop of the Colonial Heights Ward I got a bug niggling at me and I started showing up at the Regional ECS meetings, ARES meetings, PARC meetings, if I could find a meeting I was there. In those 2 years I also took my Tech license through General and on to Extra and then registered as a VE with three different VECs so far. I'm currently a Ward ECS (and an Assistant in the High Priest Group) and was recently elected as treasurer of CARS. I also volunteered to take on some duties around the CARS web presence in the hopes of updating some things. Part of that was moving this group from Yahoo to Groups.io, next up will be an update to the website.

Part of my thinking with regard to the group and sub-groups is exactly to spawn more discussion and increase the conversation because we can have small groups and not have everything going to the whole group, but we still keep the big groups for when we need it. Now I'm still learning what sub-groups are and what they can and can't do, so we'll learn some of these things together as we hit some bumps in the road, but in general, they are a group within a group and should have the same basic functionality as the group in general. You have to be a part of the overall CARS group to join a sub-group, but once there it should function and have most if not all of the features of a regular group. The advantage is we're all together when we need to be instead of forming a bunch of separate groups.

Mark
AG7HH



On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Charles Boling <charles-yahoo@...> wrote:
> Sub-groups are created off of the overall CARS group
> and allow for people to subscribe to smaller groups discussions.

My initial thoughts went like this:

- Sub-groups? There's hardly any traffic in the entire thing!
- Hmmm, actually, sub-groups might indeed spawn more discussion; I
hesitate to post when it's not essential for the whole group, not
wanting to harass everyone. I wouldn't hesitate to post to a more
targeted list.
- Ken might be able to use the subgroup feature to manage his ECS
mailing list(s) and make his life easier -- fewer redundant lists.
- I might be able to convince people to sign onto a low-traffic ECS list
that previously declined because they didn't want a bunch of "club"
chit-chat" in their email
- I like RSS, and wish more sites supported it well. I may or may not
use the feed in this case, since I'd probably be using my email to post
messages to the list anyway (then again, it may actually be easier, if
we start using multiple sub-groups, to manage the feeds and post through
the web interface, vs. creating mail filter rules and juggling different
list address.)

Could you clarify for us how the sub-groups work?  Is it:
1. just a subset of people, and messages posted to the sub-group are
only available in that sub-group
2. more like message tags, where all msgs show up in the main group, but
when you post you can choose a category, and when you view you can
choose to only see certain categories?


PS: I'm not sure I know you yet, Mark, but I appreciate and certainly
welcome you contributing your efforts on the, er, group's behalf!

--
Charles Boling, AD7UF
Emergency Communications Specialist
Longview, WA Stake

Mercury Mount St. Helens ERC Nets:
Sun 20:00 147.30 MHz - Woodland
Sun 20:15 147.26 MHz - Longview
http://www.w7msh.org

PGP Public Key: http://www.boling.us/pgp/charles.html




Frank Van Winkle
 

Frank Van Winkle, AA1FV
Rainier Stake ECS


Sent from my iPhone

Vaughn Lewis
 

Mark.  When I try to go to CARS@Groups.io, I get nothing.  Is there something that I am missing?  F.Y.I.  I am the ECS for the Mt. Hood Stake.

'73
Vaughn Lewis, AC7HO
Mt Hood Stake Emergency Communications Specialist
503-267-5872

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Mark Wardell <mark@...> wrote:
Hello all,

I should have sent this out earlier, but things got away from me. As you've no doubt noticed the old c-a-r-s@... which has long served our efforts was recently moved to a new web location. Now we are CARS@Groups.io.

Why the change? Well, to be blunt, while at one time Yahoo provided a cutting-edge service with their Yahoo groups they have failed to keep pace with services and a user experience. One of the first comments I got from people who visited Groups.io to create an account (not a requirement by the way) was how ad-free the site was. The bottom line is Yahoo groups was a sideline for Yahoo, but for Groups.io it's their only focus. We now have access to many services that we'll be taking advantage of in the future.

One of those features is sub-groups. Sub-groups are created off of the overall CARS group and allow for people to subscribe to smaller groups discussions. These could be focused on topics, activities, locations, etc.

For example, I would like to ask if there are any Stake ECS people on the list? Would you like a sub-group for your Stake?

Or a sub-group for ECS to talk about their calling?

How about a sub-group for those of us wanted to work to support the repeaters?

I don't want to run amok on these, but they strike me as a way to provide a focus group that's a part of the larger group so we can work together promoting ham radio in the area.

At any rate, that's my summary of why we moved the group, and one of the features I'd like to see us take advantage of now that we have it.

73

Mark
AG7HH