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cullomsr@...
 

I had a drive failure & had to replace my desktop computer.  I had BK backed up, via the BK backup routine, on an ext. drive.  Installing, on the new computer, the BK program "data" seemed to proceed OK, but the "pictures" & "media" themselves didn't copy.  The file names copied ok but the pictures & media itself didn't.  Clicking on the file name on the original drive produces the pictures & media ok.   

The prog. is 7.4, the backup file is E:/BK BKUP 2019-08-06, pictures are either jpg or tif & media is pdf. The problem with the pictures, etc, is the only problem I've discovered with the xfer.   Any help?

John Cullom

Westminster, MD, USA

Printing pictures

Pat Brown
 

Hi,
   Is it possible to print out a report and include more than one picture per individual?

Thanks, 

Paddy

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Gilles Paquette
 

Jim,

No I don't.  I remember using LibreOffice a few years ago, but I didn't like how it treated some of my formulas in the spreadsheet, so I turned to OpenOffice only.

And I'm very satisfied with the way it handles RTF files generated by BK, specially after reading this thread.

Gilles

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Jeff

I download beta version 7 and same problem.

I reported the problem

LibreOffice’s RTF import of indexes doesn’t interpret them correctly.

 

Using DOC version of the same file works, but then you need to have MS Word;-)

 

Jim

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Dixon via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:08 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

John Steed's advice was correct.

 

My wife had an old version of Word on an old computer.  When I opened the BK RTF file in Word, it generated the correct index.

 

While researching this issue I did several Google searches and many results mentioned that a document created or modified on LibreOffice will sometimes not display the same when opened in Word.  I found this to also be true with the modifications I made to my report.  (the report I updated in Word displays just fine when opened with LibreOffice).

 

Since I plan to give this report to a print shop to generate my books, and most likely the print shop will use Word, I have decided to create the book in Word on my wife's old (slow) computer.   Besides the Descendant report, the book will have pages of photos and family stories (about 150 pages).  I create this every 5 years for my maternal grandparent's descendants.   I can't see paying $100 a year for software I only use once every 5 years.  (BK is such a bargain).

 

Thanks to all that looked into this for me.

Jeff

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

J. P. Gilliver (John)
 

On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 01:07:58, Jeff Dixon via groups.io <jhdixon=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
[]
Since I plan to give this report to a print shop to generate my books,
and most likely the print shop will use Word, I have decided to create
the book in Word on my wife's old (slow) computer.   Besides the
FWIW, I wouldn't give it to them in _any_ wordprocessor format, where there's any chance of formatting/pagination going wrong - I'd use PDF. There are plenty of free PDF generators, that mostly act like a phantom printer - you go to print, select them as a "printer", and instead of paper coming out somewhere, you get asked for a filename. (Apologies if you knew this.) I use pdf995 (which works fine on XP and 7); there are plenty of others, such as CuteFTP. More recent versions of Word/Office (I don't know from which one, though) include one, though personally I'd rather not use a Microsoft one in case it does something non-standard.

Descendant report, the book will have pages of photos and family
stories (about 150 pages).  I create this every 5 years for my maternal
grandparent's descendants.   I can't see paying $100 a year for
software I only use once every 5 years.  (BK is such a bargain).
Indeed! And almost certainly better supported too!
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Play dirty. If a fellow contestant asks the audience if they've got any
requests for what he or she should play, reply, "Yeah... Monopoly."

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Gilles
You have both OpenOffice & LibreOffice?

Jim

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 12:20 AM Gilles Paquette <gdecpaquette@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Jim,

It looks like the example from Word 2019: surname, then given name with page number, alphabetically and indented.  I choose to put the page number at the end of the line with dots in between.  On the RTF option tab, I kept Microsoft Word for the word processor even if I work with LO.

I've never had something like your second example.

--

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jeff Dixon
 

John Steed's advice was correct.

My wife had an old version of Word on an old computer.  When I opened the BK RTF file in Word, it generated the correct index.

While researching this issue I did several Google searches and many results mentioned that a document created or modified on LibreOffice will sometimes not display the same when opened in Word.  I found this to also be true with the modifications I made to my report.  (the report I updated in Word displays just fine when opened with LibreOffice).

Since I plan to give this report to a print shop to generate my books, and most likely the print shop will use Word, I have decided to create the book in Word on my wife's old (slow) computer.   Besides the Descendant report, the book will have pages of photos and family stories (about 150 pages).  I create this every 5 years for my maternal grandparent's descendants.   I can't see paying $100 a year for software I only use once every 5 years.  (BK is such a bargain).

Thanks to all that looked into this for me.
Jeff

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Jeff
Didn’t make any difference for me
Was able get it single space by checking box in the edit index dialog but not in front of my pc right now so I can’t tell exact name and tab
Jim

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:43 PM Jeff Dixon via groups.io <jhdixon=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Jim,

My LibreOffice is 6.4.3.2
I updated just before starting this book project.

--

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jeff Dixon
 

Jim,

My LibreOffice is 6.4.3.2
I updated just before starting this book project.

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Gilles

No problem.

 

Got to pay attention to small details, like program name and version;-)

 

Jim

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gilles Paquette
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:25 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

So this is why I didn't get the bad results some of you experienced.

Then disregard all what I said about LO.  It applies to OO.

Sorry again.

Gilles

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Gilles Paquette
 

So this is why I didn't get the bad results some of you experienced.

Then disregard all what I said about LO.  It applies to OO.

Sorry again.

Gilles

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Gilles

Big Difference.

Two different suites with different developers.

 

As a side note LibreOffice was created by a group of developers that originally worked on OpenOffice to protest the ownership of OpenOffice by some company.

 

Jim

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gilles Paquette
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 7:52 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

Sorry.  I use OpenOffice (4.1.6), not LibreOffice.

Might this make a difference?

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Gilles Paquette
 

Sorry.  I use OpenOffice (4.1.6), not LibreOffice.

Might this make a difference?

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Jeff

What version of LibreOffice are you using?

Just noticed a new version 6.4.3.2 is available.

Downloading it and installing now to see if anything changes.

Jim

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Dixon via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:33 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

To Jim Dell,

 

Yes, that is exactly my issue.

 

 

Does your index look like this

A

Adkins

Kimberly Lynn, 7

Truman, 7

Anderson

Annabella Victoria, 8

Brian Joseph, 7, 8

Debbie Ann, 8

Harold M., 7

Kevin Vincent, 7, 8

Molly Kristen, 7, 8

Terry J., 7

 

This is from Word 2019.

 

Or like this from LibreOffice

AdkinsKimberly Lynn 7

AdkinsTruman  7

AndersonAnnabella Victoria 8

AndersonBrian Joseph 6, 8

AndersonDebbie Ann  7

AndersonHarold M.  6

AndersonKevin Vincent 6, 8

AndersonMolly Kristen 6, 8

AndersonTerry J.

Two problems with the LibreOffice one

  1. No space between surname & given
  2. Double spacing

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Gilles

Can you give us step by step instructions starting with inserting a page break and insert the index?

What check boxes are checked?

 

I looked back at Jeff message and he has the same problem with the surname and given not being separated.

Also it looks like somebody had to problem with LibreOffice back in 2016 see

https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/77273/opening-rtf-with-index-inclusing-subkeys-fails/

 

Jim

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gilles Paquette
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:16 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

Jim,

It looks like the example from Word 2019: surname, then given name with page number, alphabetically and indented.  I choose to put the page number at the end of the line with dots in between.  On the RTF option tab, I kept Microsoft Word for the word processor even if I work with LO.  See the attachment showing how it comes out for me.

I've never had something like your second example.

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jeff Dixon
 

To Jim Dell,

Yes, that is exactly my issue.


Does your index look like this
A
Adkins
Kimberly Lynn, 7
Truman, 7
Anderson
Annabella Victoria, 8
Brian Joseph, 7, 8
Debbie Ann, 8
Harold M., 7
Kevin Vincent, 7, 8
Molly Kristen, 7, 8
Terry J., 7
 
This is from Word 2019.
 
Or like this from LibreOffice
AdkinsKimberly Lynn 7
AdkinsTruman  7
AndersonAnnabella Victoria 8
AndersonBrian Joseph 6, 8
AndersonDebbie Ann  7
AndersonHarold M.  6
AndersonKevin Vincent 6, 8
AndersonMolly Kristen 6, 8
AndersonTerry J.
Two problems with the LibreOffice one
  1. No space between surname & given
  2. Double spacing

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Gilles Paquette
 
Edited

Jim,

It looks like the example from Word 2019: surname, then given name with page number, alphabetically and indented.  I choose to put the page number at the end of the line with dots in between.  On the RTF option tab, I kept Microsoft Word for the word processor even if I work with LO.

I've never had something like your second example.

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jim Dell
 

Gillles

Does your index look like this

A

Adkins

Kimberly Lynn, 7

Truman, 7

Anderson

Annabella Victoria, 8

Brian Joseph, 7, 8

Debbie Ann, 8

Harold M., 7

Kevin Vincent, 7, 8

Molly Kristen, 7, 8

Terry J., 7

 

This is from Word 2019.

 

Or like this from LibreOffice

AdkinsKimberly Lynn 7

AdkinsTruman  7

AndersonAnnabella Victoria 8

AndersonBrian Joseph 6, 8

AndersonDebbie Ann  7

AndersonHarold M.  6

AndersonKevin Vincent 6, 8

AndersonMolly Kristen 6, 8

AndersonTerry J.

Two problems with the LibreOffice one

  1. No space between surname & given
  2. Double spacing

Jim

 

 

 

From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gilles Paquette
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:25 PM
To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Indented Report index in LibreOffice

 

Hi again,

Sorry, since I use the French (Quebec) version, I didn't see that line Create 2 part index (last name on separate line).  It IS checked in my case and it works OK.

To Jim, i'll try to translate from French what I use in LO to create the index.  Once the RTF file is opened in LO, go to the end of your document and hit Ctrl-Enter to create a new page where your index will start.  Then go to Insert, then Index and Tables.  In the new window, choose the second option Index and tables.  In the larger window, choose the second Type: Lexical index[?].  Before you hit the OK button, if you want to eventually edit manually your index, uncheck the box to protect from manual modification.

Hope my translation is OK and helps.

Gilles Paquette

Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Jeff Dixon
 

Vicki, and John

I am looking into using Word and then opening the DOC file with LibreOffice.  (my wife thinks she has Word on an old machine).  Will let you know.


Jim, 

To add the index in LO, click on 'Insert' tab and then on 'Table of Content and Index' in the drop down.


Giles,

I am using BK V7.5.0.  In the 'Indented Report' screen, 'RTF Options' tab.  The 'Create 2 part index' box is near the bottom.


Thank you all. 
Jeff


Re: Indented Report index in LibreOffice

Gilles Paquette
 

Hi again,

Sorry, since I use the French (Quebec) version, I didn't see that line Create 2 part index (last name on separate line).  It IS checked in my case and it works OK.

To Jim, i'll try to translate from French what I use in LO to create the index.  Once the RTF file is opened in LO, go to the end of your document and hit Ctrl-Enter to create a new page where your index will start.  Then go to Insert, then Index and Tables.  In the new window, choose the second option Index and tables.  In the larger window, choose the second Type: Lexical index[?].  Before you hit the OK button, if you want to eventually edit manually your index, uncheck the box to protect from manual modification.

Hope my translation is OK and helps.

Gilles Paquette