The sun this morning at 0630.


jimcoble2000
 

Nice sunspot group today, as it has been all week but I observed a more interesting feature this morning. I got up early having left the 4 inch out overnight to acclimatize after observing Saturn last night. As you know the early hours are absolutely the best time to get the sun. I was using the Baader Mylar front filter. Seeing was not quite all it can be early on but not terrible either. Having a quick look at the overall condition of the sun. I noted that the solar granulation showed quite well at lower powers say 23X. As you go up in power to 56x the granulation becomes more difficult to see as the seeing goes down with power. I reversed to confirm my impression and yes low power is the way to see this feature. Often I never see this in white light later as seeing is typically bad when the atmosphere is stirred up later in the afternoon and you may be using too high a power when looking at sunspot detail. Good granulation is tough to see across the entire disc as it requires very good seeing. A good filter helps too as most glass filters smear out the fine detail.

Try it, back off to low power early one hot morning. Limb darkening is more obvious too if you back away from power.

That said it is too hot again today and I don't want to burst into flames later. At present there is merely no oxygen in the air.


Roy Diffrient
 

Nice report Mark, but try not to become combustible.

Roy


On Jul 19, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Mark Ost <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


Nice sunspot group today, as it has been all week but I observed a more interesting feature this morning. I got up early having left the 4 inch out overnight to acclimatize after observing Saturn last night. As you know the early hours are absolutely the best time to get the sun. I was using the Baader Mylar front filter. Seeing was not quite all it can be early on but not terrible either. Having a quick look at the overall condition of the sun. I noted that the solar granulation showed quite well at lower powers say 23X. As you go up in power to 56x the granulation becomes more difficult to see as the seeing goes down with power. I reversed to confirm my impression and yes low power is the way to see this feature. Often I never see this in white light later as seeing is typically bad when the atmosphere is stirred up later in the afternoon and you may be using too high a power when looking at sunspot detail. Good granulation is tough to see across the entire disc as it requires very good seeing. A good filter helps too as most glass filters smear out the fine detail.

Try it, back off to low power early one hot morning. Limb darkening is more obvious too if you back away from power.

That said it is too hot again today and I don't want to burst into flames later. At present there is merely no oxygen in the air.


jimcoble2000
 

I will sincerely try Roy..............................I am just so frustrated............................ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.Emoji

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 10:53:56 AM EDT, Roy Diffrient <mail@...> wrote:


Nice report Mark, but try not to become combustible.

Roy


On Jul 19, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Mark Ost <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


Nice sunspot group today, as it has been all week but I observed a more interesting feature this morning. I got up early having left the 4 inch out overnight to acclimatize after observing Saturn last night. As you know the early hours are absolutely the best time to get the sun. I was using the Baader Mylar front filter. Seeing was not quite all it can be early on but not terrible either. Having a quick look at the overall condition of the sun. I noted that the solar granulation showed quite well at lower powers say 23X. As you go up in power to 56x the granulation becomes more difficult to see as the seeing goes down with power. I reversed to confirm my impression and yes low power is the way to see this feature. Often I never see this in white light later as seeing is typically bad when the atmosphere is stirred up later in the afternoon and you may be using too high a power when looking at sunspot detail. Good granulation is tough to see across the entire disc as it requires very good seeing. A good filter helps too as most glass filters smear out the fine detail.

Try it, back off to low power early one hot morning. Limb darkening is more obvious too if you back away from power.

That said it is too hot again today and I don't want to burst into flames later. At present there is merely no oxygen in the air.


Ian Stewart
 

Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


jimcoble2000
 

How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


Bird Taylor
 

Who needs a cord when you can use Solar Power?


On Jul 19, 2022, at 11:22 04, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


jimcoble2000
 

hmm let me think about your engineering solution a bit?Emoji

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM EDT, Bird Taylor <birdtaylor@...> wrote:


Who needs a cord when you can use Solar Power?


On Jul 19, 2022, at 11:22 04, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


Ian Stewart
 

Eveready

On 7/19/2022 11:22 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:

How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


jimcoble2000
 

Have you used one of these things? Back in the day I used the ones that absorbed water (iced) and you tied it around your neck. That made a big difference when you are out 12 hours a day in the sun.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Eveready

On 7/19/2022 11:22 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


Ian Stewart
 

Nope but I did use the ones you mentioned. They actually worked quite well.

On 7/19/2022 1:02 PM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:

Have you used one of these things? Back in the day I used the ones that absorbed water (iced) and you tied it around your neck. That made a big difference when you are out 12 hours a day in the sun.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Eveready

On 7/19/2022 11:22 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


jimcoble2000
 

Don't they though? This heat just won't let up. Clouds too.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 01:07:14 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Nope but I did use the ones you mentioned. They actually worked quite well.

On 7/19/2022 1:02 PM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
Have you used one of these things? Back in the day I used the ones that absorbed water (iced) and you tied it around your neck. That made a big difference when you are out 12 hours a day in the sun.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Eveready

On 7/19/2022 11:22 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner


Robert Schmidt
 

I will provide cooling view. In Alaska this week, 55F and breezy.


On Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 14:48 jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don't they though? This heat just won't let up. Clouds too.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 01:07:14 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Nope but I did use the ones you mentioned. They actually worked quite well.

On 7/19/2022 1:02 PM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
Have you used one of these things? Back in the day I used the ones that absorbed water (iced) and you tied it around your neck. That made a big difference when you are out 12 hours a day in the sun.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Eveready

On 7/19/2022 11:22 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
How long is the cord?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:17:09 AM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark you need a personal portable air conditioner :-)
Cheers Ian
Personal Air Conditioner