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Re: City observing with a 25"

jimcoble2000
 

It will be interesting to see how seeing develops over the next few days. It certainly was a good night with very low light scatter due to the exceptional clean air. It was noticeably darker in the back yard. If I recall that 907x was a bit of a surprise as I came away with the impression that you thought you had a lower power eye piece.

I remember reading somewhere that there was no point in having large aperture in the urban areas but I suspect that whoever wrote that has had very little observing experience in light impacted areas with a large telescope. Much ink is spilled in magazines by those who live under dark skies, as would be expected, but little from observers of more typical locations.

It is remarkable how little planetaries care about light pollution. In a way it is more of a miracle that a telescope can fish these objects out of what is otherwise a blank sky.

On Friday, September 3, 2021, 09:19:06 AM EDT, Kent Blackwell <kent@...> wrote:


I really miss observing in dark Coinjock skies with the 25" telescope but I'm having fun observing in light polluted skies as well, and it's so convenient having the telescope in my own backyard. Not only do the planets look amazing (when seeing allows) but so do planetary nebulae. Last night NGC 7009, The Saturn Nebula looked amazing using a 3.5mm Pentax eyepiece that yielded a whopping 907x. Also interesting was NGC 6818, The Little Gem in Sagittarius at high power. Shifting back to only 200x NGC 6537 "The Red Spider" was interesting, hardly resembling a spider though. The real jewel of the night was M 17, The Omega Nebula, especially when using a nebula fitter such as the OII or the Orion UltraBlock at 200x. Oh yes, and the Great Red Spot was dead center on Jupiter's meridian. Seeing wasn't what it was before remnants of Hurricane Ida slipped north and west of us but it was still quite impressive. My last object of the night was Neptune. Even in the 25" at 200x Neptune is still small, but the orb is a beautiful color green. 

Kent B


City observing with a 25"

Kent Blackwell
 

I really miss observing in dark Coinjock skies with the 25" telescope but I'm having fun observing in light polluted skies as well, and it's so convenient having the telescope in my own backyard. Not only do the planets look amazing (when seeing allows) but so do planetary nebulae. Last night NGC 7009, The Saturn Nebula looked amazing using a 3.5mm Pentax eyepiece that yielded a whopping 907x. Also interesting was NGC 6818, The Little Gem in Sagittarius at high power. Shifting back to only 200x NGC 6537 "The Red Spider" was interesting, hardly resembling a spider though. The real jewel of the night was M 17, The Omega Nebula, especially when using a nebula fitter such as the OII or the Orion UltraBlock at 200x. Oh yes, and the Great Red Spot was dead center on Jupiter's meridian. Seeing wasn't what it was before remnants of Hurricane Ida slipped north and west of us but it was still quite impressive. My last object of the night was Neptune. Even in the 25" at 200x Neptune is still small, but the orb is a beautiful color green. 

Kent B


Re: Patterson Observatory (Sierra Vista AZ)

Kent Blackwell
 

The Patterson Observatory looks fantastic. Great tour, too.


Re: Polar Alignment

Jim Tallman
 

Lol.. we didn't get this email either Dino 😎

Jim

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Re: Polar Alignment

galacticprobe
 

UEPH...

Unforced Errors Per Hour - Tennis
Unaccompanied Enlisted Personnel Housing - Military
United Earth Planetary Headquarters - Top Secret Space Exploration Agency (oops: said too much already)
Ultra Efficient Polymer Hybrid - Some sort of membrane

Take your pick. The only other "UEPH" I could find were college-level course code numbers relating to physics (i.e. UEPH-104, UEPH-105, etc.), with no explanation of what the "UEPH" stood for in the courses.

Dino.
P. S. Has anyone gotten any emails I've sent out in the past couple of weeks regarding this Polar Alignment article in AAM - which is a mag I don't get? Asking because something else I'm not getting: responses to those emails I've sent out. (Starting to no longer feel welcome around here.)


-----Original Message-----
From: William Rust <willrust@...>
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2021 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment

I don't really know.   It was printed on the blank I used and is a high-density poly of some sort.  I have had it for ages, and is probably obsolete.  It warps easily, and if the label is wrong, I am wrong.  The closest I could find is UHMW poly, or ultra-high molecular weight poly.


From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> on behalf of George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 9:45 AM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>; William Rust <willrust@...>
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
Bill, your article in AA was fascinating! Your attention to detail and math skills are impeccable. Not being an imager, much of it ( most of it) was over my head, but I was impressed with your work and your patience, and your detailed explanations. BTW, what does "UEPH" stand for?

George


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:43, William Rust
<willrust@...> wrote:
I can probably do that in October.  Oh, by the way, I am not trying to compete with out of the box equipment and software.  I just did the math and field tested it.  It works pretty well.  It is a big improvement over the old-style drift method.
Bill


From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> on behalf of Jeff Goldstein <jeffgold1@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:40 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
I like the idea! Perhaps a “mini presentation 10 minute” at the next club meeting?  Just my $0.02
 
Jeff G.
 
From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of William Rust
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:38 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
Hi everybody.  The Pandemic gave me some incentive to finish an astrojob sitting on my desk waiting for me to polish it up.  I did that in March, and submitted my article to Amateur Astronomy Magazine, Summer 2021.  The title is: "Robust Polar Alignment with Flatness Application".  It works pretty fast (say 45 min for 3 sets of star sightings) to get to about 0.5 arcmin error in Altitude and Azimuth. Anyway,  Anything closer that that requires more sightings and is very tricky.  I thought I would share.  If you do astroimaging, then this would be a technique that might benefit you. I can send you a copy if you dont get AAM.
Bill


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Re: Patterson Observatory (Sierra Vista AZ)

Paul
 

What a cool place, Ted! The virtual tour is outstanding. And so many cool things are showcased. Quite a talented group of people! Even the building is pretty cool with its "constellation windows."  Thanks for sharing!
 - Paul


On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 3:27 PM Ted Forte <tedforte511@...> wrote:

I have probably mentioned the Patterson Observatory a few times on this forum.  I’ve been “Director” at this observatory since 2013. It’s sort of the club house for our astronomy club and a center of many of our outreach events. It’s pretty much my second home here.

 

The Patterson Observatory is listed as a NASA Space Place and has a 16 foot dome, housing a Ritchey-Chretien telescope of 20” aperture.

The 3D tour of the observatory was created by Ryan Straight, a professor at the University of Arizona, College of Applied Science and Technology cyber program. I hope you enjoy it.

 

Ted

BBAA Southwest


Re: Patterson Observatory (Sierra Vista AZ)

Ian Stewart
 

Wonderful tour Ted. thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Ian


On Sep 2, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Ted Forte <tedforte511@...> wrote:



I have probably mentioned the Patterson Observatory a few times on this forum.  I’ve been “Director” at this observatory since 2013. It’s sort of the club house for our astronomy club and a center of many of our outreach events. It’s pretty much my second home here.

 

The Patterson Observatory is listed as a NASA Space Place and has a 16 foot dome, housing a Ritchey-Chretien telescope of 20” aperture.

my.matterport.com

The 3D tour of the observatory was created by Ryan Straight, a professor at the University of Arizona, College of Applied Science and Technology cyber program. I hope you enjoy it.

 

Ted

BBAA Southwest


Patterson Observatory (Sierra Vista AZ)

Ted Forte
 

I have probably mentioned the Patterson Observatory a few times on this forum.  I’ve been “Director” at this observatory since 2013. It’s sort of the club house for our astronomy club and a center of many of our outreach events. It’s pretty much my second home here.

 

The Patterson Observatory is listed as a NASA Space Place and has a 16 foot dome, housing a Ritchey-Chretien telescope of 20” aperture.

my.matterport.com

The 3D tour of the observatory was created by Ryan Straight, a professor at the University of Arizona, College of Applied Science and Technology cyber program. I hope you enjoy it.

 

Ted

BBAA Southwest


Re: Polar Alignment

William Rust
 

I don't really know.   It was printed on the blank I used and is a high-density poly of some sort.  I have had it for ages, and is probably obsolete.  It warps easily, and if the label is wrong, I am wrong.  The closest I could find is UHMW poly, or ultra-high molecular weight poly.


From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> on behalf of George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 9:45 AM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>; William Rust <willrust@...>
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
Bill, your article in AA was fascinating! Your attention to detail and math skills are impeccable. Not being an imager, much of it ( most of it) was over my head, but I was impressed with your work and your patience, and your detailed explanations. BTW, what does "UEPH" stand for?

George


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:43, William Rust
<willrust@...> wrote:
I can probably do that in October.  Oh, by the way, I am not trying to compete with out of the box equipment and software.  I just did the math and field tested it.  It works pretty well.  It is a big improvement over the old-style drift method.
Bill


From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> on behalf of Jeff Goldstein <jeffgold1@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:40 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 

I like the idea! Perhaps a “mini presentation 10 minute” at the next club meeting?  Just my $0.02

 

Jeff G.

 

From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of William Rust
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:38 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment

 

Hi everybody.  The Pandemic gave me some incentive to finish an astrojob sitting on my desk waiting for me to polish it up.  I did that in March, and submitted my article to Amateur Astronomy Magazine, Summer 2021.  The title is: "Robust Polar Alignment with Flatness Application".  It works pretty fast (say 45 min for 3 sets of star sightings) to get to about 0.5 arcmin error in Altitude and Azimuth. Anyway,  Anything closer that that requires more sightings and is very tricky.  I thought I would share.  If you do astroimaging, then this would be a technique that might benefit you. I can send you a copy if you dont get AAM.
Bill


Re: Last Jupiter notice

jimcoble2000
 

Thanks Ian. I just ran sky tools for a few days out. Saturn though beautiful as always never really has much going on that is out of the ordinary. There was a storm a few years back but those are fairly rare. Jupiter is the one that changes a lot. Both have been pretty low so any good nights are a bonus. I suppose I will chase the lunar eclipse this fall. Every year I say I won't but I always do.

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 01:03:57 PM EDT, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Hey Mark thanks for the info. Sky and Telescope has a neat little calculator for Jupiter events as well.

Cheers

Ian

https://skyandtelescope.org/wp-content/plugins/observing-tools/jupiter_moons/jupiter.html

On 9/1/2021 9:28 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
9 September Red Spot transit 2200


Re: Last Jupiter notice

Ian Stewart
 

Hey Mark thanks for the info. Sky and Telescope has a neat little calculator for Jupiter events as well.

Cheers

Ian

https://skyandtelescope.org/wp-content/plugins/observing-tools/jupiter_moons/jupiter.html

On 9/1/2021 9:28 AM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
9 September Red Spot transit 2200


Last Jupiter notice

jimcoble2000
 

9 September Red Spot transit 2200


Red spot on Jupiter

jimcoble2000
 

September 7th the red spot transits the face of Jupiter 2100


Jupiter News

jimcoble2000
 

September 5th at 2111 Europa will be completing a shadow transit. At that time it will be 3/4 of the way off the face.


Re: Star Party!

charles jagow
 

Great! It will be good to see a familiar face!

Sent from Chuck's iPhone

On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:32 PM, Dale Carey via groups.io <vbstargazer@...> wrote:

I'll see ya at Okie-Tex, I'll be there from Friday the 1st till Sat the9th
Hope to see ya there
Dale Carey


-----Original Message-----
From: charles jagow <chuck@...>
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2021 2:20 pm
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Star Party!

All,
 
I am heading out for the first star party I have attended since the last ECSP.  The RMSS, Rocky Mountain Star Stare in Gardner Colorado.  RMSS is held on a 35 acre site that the Colorado Springs Astronomical Society bought about 12 years ago for their club to observe on.  The site, Starry Meadows, is located about 120 miles SW of Colorado Springs.  Lucky for me, Starry Meadows is a mere 34 miles from my hacienda in Westcliffe. 
 
If the weather forecast continues to improve I will pack up the 20” F5, if not I will take the 12” Orion XXG.
 
We had to replace the original Star Pod trailer, it lost a wheel and tore the axle up in Kentucky on the way out here, it was left in KY for repairs awaiting parts.  While waiting, someone offered to buy it, not wanting to drive back to KY and retrieve it after repairs we sold it.  The new Star Pod is a couple feet longer and has a pop out kitchen.  And it also sports a Star Pod CO license plate.
 
Once again Stewie (the Prozac dog) and I will be out among the stars, making new friends.
 
And if this goes well, the Okie-Tex star party is the first weekend in October!
 
v/r
Chuck Jagow
Future         Verde Mont Observatory
Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory
 
 
Gosh. it is so good to hear from all you boys. We used to have such fun at East Coast Star Party; truly a time gone by.

--
v/r
v/r
Chuck Jagow
Future         Verde Mont Observatory
Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory
 
 


Re: Star Party!

Dale Carey
 

I'll see ya at Okie-Tex, I'll be there from Friday the 1st till Sat the9th
Hope to see ya there
Dale Carey


-----Original Message-----
From: charles jagow <chuck@...>
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2021 2:20 pm
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Star Party!

All,
 
I am heading out for the first star party I have attended since the last ECSP.  The RMSS, Rocky Mountain Star Stare in Gardner Colorado.  RMSS is held on a 35 acre site that the Colorado Springs Astronomical Society bought about 12 years ago for their club to observe on.  The site, Starry Meadows, is located about 120 miles SW of Colorado Springs.  Lucky for me, Starry Meadows is a mere 34 miles from my hacienda in Westcliffe. 
 
If the weather forecast continues to improve I will pack up the 20” F5, if not I will take the 12” Orion XXG.
 
We had to replace the original Star Pod trailer, it lost a wheel and tore the axle up in Kentucky on the way out here, it was left in KY for repairs awaiting parts.  While waiting, someone offered to buy it, not wanting to drive back to KY and retrieve it after repairs we sold it.  The new Star Pod is a couple feet longer and has a pop out kitchen.  And it also sports a Star Pod CO license plate.
 
Once again Stewie (the Prozac dog) and I will be out among the stars, making new friends.
 
And if this goes well, the Okie-Tex star party is the first weekend in October!
 
v/r
Chuck Jagow
Future         Verde Mont Observatory
Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory
 
 
Gosh. it is so good to hear from all you boys. We used to have such fun at East Coast Star Party; truly a time gone by.

--
v/r
v/r
Chuck Jagow
Future         Verde Mont Observatory
Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory
 
 


Re: Star Party!

Ian Stewart
 

Hey Chuck, great news. Enjoy the star party. Looking forward to our Staunton River Star Party here.

Cheers

Ian

On 8/31/2021 2:20 PM, charles jagow wrote:

All,

 

I am heading out for the first star party I have attended since the last ECSP.  The RMSS, Rocky Mountain Star Stare in Gardner Colorado.  RMSS is held on a 35 acre site that the Colorado Springs Astronomical Society bought about 12 years ago for their club to observe on.  The site, Starry Meadows, is located about 120 miles SW of Colorado Springs.  Lucky for me, Starry Meadows is a mere 34 miles from my hacienda in Westcliffe. 

 

If the weather forecast continues to improve I will pack up the 20” F5, if not I will take the 12” Orion XXG.

 

We had to replace the original Star Pod trailer, it lost a wheel and tore the axle up in Kentucky on the way out here, it was left in KY for repairs awaiting parts.  While waiting, someone offered to buy it, not wanting to drive back to KY and retrieve it after repairs we sold it.  The new Star Pod is a couple feet longer and has a pop out kitchen.  And it also sports a Star Pod CO license plate.

 

Once again Stewie (the Prozac dog) and I will be out among the stars, making new friends.

 

And if this goes well, the Okie-Tex star party is the first weekend in October!

 

v/r

Chuck Jagow

Member – Dark Skies of The Wet Mountain Valley

Member - Back Bay Amateur Astronomers

Member – San Diego Astronomy Association

Member – Colorado Springs Astronomy Association

Future         Verde Mont Observatory

Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory

 

 

Gosh. it is so good to hear from all you boys. We used to have such fun at East Coast Star Party; truly a time gone by.


--

v/r

v/r

Chuck Jagow

Member – Dark Skies of The Wet Mountain Valley

Member - Back Bay Amateur Astronomers

Member – San Diego Astronomy Association

Member – Colorado Springs Astronomy Association

Future         Verde Mont Observatory

Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory

 

 


Re: Polar Alignment

galacticprobe
 

Well, they say "Third time's the charm", so let's see...

I've send two requests for the polar alignment as offered in the original post that started this thread (see the bottom of this, and the last line of the initial post: "I can send you a copy if you don't get AAM.").

As you can see in my request to take up on this offer, I don't get AAM because I never knew it existed. I also never received any replies to the emails send to the address below (rather than having to throw this out over the entire Group). So now I'm throwing it over the entire Group. Maybe this way I'll see something.

I don't get AAM. Can I please get a copy of the "Robust Polar Alignment with Flatness Application" as offered? (At this point I would appreciate a response more than the article being offered; no one likes to be ignored.)

I may have been invisibly for a while, but I have still been posting occasionally, and I do still exist.

Dino.


-----Original Message-----
From: LambuLambu@... <lambulambu@...>
To: willrust@... <willrust@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 29, 2021 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment

Hey, Bill,

Did you get my reply to you on this when you first posted it? (I'm just checking because AOL has dropped more than a few emails on me in the past.)

If you could please email me a copy of this I would greatly appreciate it. I don't get the AAM. (Honestly, with all of the different astronomy-related mags out there, I didn't know this one existed until I read your email.) Also, thanks to my military lower back injury I haven't been able to get to any of the BBAA meetings or events for a few years now, so I'm one of those members whose posts you've probable seen occasionally, but you haven't met in person... at least I think.

"Keep looking up!"
Dino.


-----Original Message-----
From: George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027@...>
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io; William Rust <willrust@...>
Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 9:45 am
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment

Bill, your article in AA was fascinating! Your attention to detail and math skills are impeccable. Not being an imager, much of it ( most of it) was over my head, but I was impressed with your work and your patience, and your detailed explanations. BTW, what does "UEPH" stand for?

George


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:43, William Rust
<willrust@...> wrote:
I can probably do that in October.  Oh, by the way, I am not trying to compete with out of the box equipment and software.  I just did the math and field tested it.  It works pretty well.  It is a big improvement over the old-style drift method.
Bill


From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> on behalf of Jeff Goldstein <jeffgold1@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:40 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
I like the idea! Perhaps a “mini presentation 10 minute” at the next club meeting?  Just my $0.02
 
Jeff G.
 
From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of William Rust
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:38 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Polar Alignment
 
Hi everybody.  The Pandemic gave me some incentive to finish an astrojob sitting on my desk waiting for me to polish it up.  I did that in March, and submitted my article to Amateur Astronomy Magazine, Summer 2021.  The title is: "Robust Polar Alignment with Flatness Application".  It works pretty fast (say 45 min for 3 sets of star sightings) to get to about 0.5 arcmin error in Altitude and Azimuth. Anyway,  Anything closer that that requires more sightings and is very tricky.  I thought I would share.  If you do astroimaging, then this would be a technique that might benefit you. I can send you a copy if you dont get AAM.
Bill


Re: Star Party!

Matthew Cook
 

Lucky!


On Aug 31, 2021, at 14:24, charles jagow <chuck@...> wrote:



All,

 

I am heading out for the first star party I have attended since the last ECSP.  The RMSS, Rocky Mountain Star Stare in Gardner Colorado.  RMSS is held on a 35 acre site that the Colorado Springs Astronomical Society bought about 12 years ago for their club to observe on.  The site, Starry Meadows, is located about 120 miles SW of Colorado Springs.  Lucky for me, Starry Meadows is a mere 34 miles from my hacienda in Westcliffe. 

 

If the weather forecast continues to improve I will pack up the 20” F5, if not I will take the 12” Orion XXG.

 

We had to replace the original Star Pod trailer, it lost a wheel and tore the axle up in Kentucky on the way out here, it was left in KY for repairs awaiting parts.  While waiting, someone offered to buy it, not wanting to drive back to KY and retrieve it after repairs we sold it.  The new Star Pod is a couple feet longer and has a pop out kitchen.  And it also sports a Star Pod CO license plate.

 

Once again Stewie (the Prozac dog) and I will be out among the stars, making new friends.

 

And if this goes well, the Okie-Tex star party is the first weekend in October!

 

v/r

Chuck Jagow

Member – Dark Skies of The Wet Mountain Valley

Member - Back Bay Amateur Astronomers

Member – San Diego Astronomy Association

Member – Colorado Springs Astronomy Association

Future         Verde Mont Observatory

Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory

 

 

Gosh. it is so good to hear from all you boys. We used to have such fun at East Coast Star Party; truly a time gone by.


--

v/r

v/r

Chuck Jagow

Member – Dark Skies of The Wet Mountain Valley

Member - Back Bay Amateur Astronomers

Member – San Diego Astronomy Association

Member – Colorado Springs Astronomy Association

Future         Verde Mont Observatory

Gone...        Rott'n Paws Observatory

 

 

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