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Re: One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

jimcoble2000
 

Jim. Your picture was exactly what I saw through my Baader filter in the 20x80s binoculars. I could see the water, clouds and sun due to the low positioning. It was just magic. Much better than high angle eclipses.

On Monday, June 14, 2021, 3:19:24 PM EDT, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


It really was!

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Re: One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

Jim Tallman
 

It really was!

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Re: Warp Drive Advances

jimcoble2000
 

could be a bug deflector

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:47:08 PM EDT, Roy Diffrient <mail@...> wrote:


Yep, that’s right, a big dish projecting a force field.  They make it look simple.

Roy


On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:12 PM, bob414 <bob414@...> wrote:



Isn’t that why they have the big Deflector Dish on the Enterprise?

 

Bob

 

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Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Warp Drive Advances

 

"Shields up!"  

 

We will need force field shields like they have on Star Trek.

 

I'm sure it's possible.  A lot of the science fiction devices on Star Trek have become commonplace devices, like the pager, cell phone, iPad (they called it the "Padd" that Captain Kirk signed when his yeoman presented it to him).

 

I'm not so sure about the transporter, though.  I think I'd be more like Dr. "Bones" McCoy, skeptical about having my molecules scrambled.

 

George

 


George Reynolds

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Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 

 

 

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:57:13 AM EDT, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:

 

 

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: Warp Drive Advances

jimcoble2000
 

Of course there is the slight problem of becoming infinetly massive as you get there.Emoji

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:37:17 PM EDT, Roy Diffrient <mail@...> wrote:


Hi Richard,
Yeah, as you say, astronauts need protection from space junk now and it will be vastly more important at warp speed.  That must be developed for warp drive to be useful – but I have faith.

I also found a free version of the Lentz paper referenced, “Breaking the Warp Barrier ... “ on the arXiv preprint server:


Caution, very heavy math.

Roy


On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: Warp Drive Advances

jimcoble2000
 

Hmm. The chief problem would be we would bring ourselves if we could create this. That would ensure a continuing mess just transported somewhere else.

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 10:00:56 AM EDT, Roy Diffrient <mail@...> wrote:


Are we there yet?  Here’s a no-math, easy-read summary:


Re: One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

jimcoble2000
 

Nice shot. This was a dramatic eclipse wasn't it?

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 5:04:47 AM EDT, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Thanks Chuck.

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Re: Sun

George Reynolds
 

Dale, did you read what Ted Forte said about activity on the sun? We may be getting into a very active season. (Yay!)

George


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 17:58, Dale Carey via groups.io
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WOW, the Sun is excellent today, large prominence and a large disturbance just below it in Ha.
This is a biggest of the year, in my opinion.
DC


Sun

Dale Carey
 

WOW, the Sun is excellent today, large prominence and a large disturbance just below it in Ha.
This is a biggest of the year, in my opinion.
DC


Re: 2021 Chippokes Nightwatch Permit on NightSky network

George Reynolds
 

Jonathan,

Sorry I didn't see your message yesterday.  For future reference, here is the 2021 Chippokes permit.



George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 


On Saturday, June 12, 2021, 09:04:14 AM EDT, Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:


I am planning on doing Chippokes tonight (if the forecast holds) with Ron and ? and wanted to download a permit for 2021.
On the NightSky site, I found a 2021 permit for Cornland but the permit for Chippokes is still for 2020.
Where do I obtain the 2021 Chippokes permit?

This is where I found the 2020 Chippokes permit:  https://nightsky.jpl.nasa.gov/club/event-view.cfm?Event_ID=114614

Jonathan


2021 Chippokes Nightwatch Permit on NightSky network

Jonathan Scheetz
 

I am planning on doing Chippokes tonight (if the forecast holds) with Ron and ? and wanted to download a permit for 2021.
On the NightSky site, I found a 2021 permit for Cornland but the permit for Chippokes is still for 2020.
Where do I obtain the 2021 Chippokes permit?

This is where I found the 2020 Chippokes permit:  https://nightsky.jpl.nasa.gov/club/event-view.cfm?Event_ID=114614

Jonathan


Re: Warp Drive Advances

Roy Diffrient
 

Yep, that’s right, a big dish projecting a force field.  They make it look simple.

Roy


On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:12 PM, bob414 <bob414@...> wrote:



Isn’t that why they have the big Deflector Dish on the Enterprise?

 

Bob

 

From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of George Reynolds via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:24 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Warp Drive Advances

 

"Shields up!"  

 

We will need force field shields like they have on Star Trek.

 

I'm sure it's possible.  A lot of the science fiction devices on Star Trek have become commonplace devices, like the pager, cell phone, iPad (they called it the "Padd" that Captain Kirk signed when his yeoman presented it to him).

 

I'm not so sure about the transporter, though.  I think I'd be more like Dr. "Bones" McCoy, skeptical about having my molecules scrambled.

 

George

 


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia

Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 

 

 

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:57:13 AM EDT, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:

 

 

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: Warp Drive Advances

bob414
 

Isn’t that why they have the big Deflector Dish on the Enterprise?

 

Bob

 

From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of George Reynolds via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:24 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BackBayAstro] Warp Drive Advances

 

"Shields up!"  

 

We will need force field shields like they have on Star Trek.

 

I'm sure it's possible.  A lot of the science fiction devices on Star Trek have become commonplace devices, like the pager, cell phone, iPad (they called it the "Padd" that Captain Kirk signed when his yeoman presented it to him).

 

I'm not so sure about the transporter, though.  I think I'd be more like Dr. "Bones" McCoy, skeptical about having my molecules scrambled.

 

George

 


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia

Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 

 

 

On Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:57:13 AM EDT, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:

 

 

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

George Reynolds
 

Very nice, Jim!  Some of our photos from the boardwalk have been posted on the BBAA Facebook group.

George


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Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 


On Thursday, June 10, 2021, 05:18:03 PM EDT, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


My view from Ocean View :)

Not freezing like 2013!!!!

Image


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Subject: [BackBayAstro] One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

Magnificent is about the sum of it. Weather was making things dodgy but there were breaks in the clouds at 0430 when I got up. I had packed the car the previous night with the 20x80 big binoculars and my Baader solar filters.
After a 45 minute drive down to the boat ramp in Back Bay I arrived as the sky was getting lighter. Huge changes have taken place and spell the doom of the houses back there and eventually the boat ramp. Water is no a permanent feature on the roads and yards due to sea level rise. There has been no winds the past days so this was not a wind tide event it is the new normal. It has been 25 years since I have lived down there and the change is remarkable as the situation becomes more untenable.

After parking I set up my chair and binocular tripod by 0630. There were gaps in the clouds though there was a solid cloud line at the horizon. This was changing slowly so it was a race between the sun and the gaps. It was a spectacular sunrise as the gap got more and more orange and intense with the rising sun. The cloud tops were vermilion in color. The only thing I can compare it to is the classic sunrise in the desert scene from the movie Lawrence of Arabia. It was that good. David Lean would have tears in his eyes.

I started watching the gap a split second before the sun cleared the clouds, I was rewarded with my first ever view of the green flash. As the sun rose it looked like a rhino horn with the moon covering more of the face than i thought it would. As this was at low altitude I could see the reflection of the water waves off back bay, the dark outline in Sandbridge, wisps of clouds and that astounding sight of thew eclipsed moon rising as if through a wide screen frame of a Cinerama movie. The gap was wide enough to see the entire sun as it rose into the next thin layer of clouds. Then the sun repeated the jaw dropping show through the next layer before slowly disappearing into the solid clouds above. All this took 15 minutes but what a 15 minutes! Cue the sound track to Lawrence.

The circumstance conspired to make this so beautiful and memorable with the setting and the effect of cloud water, land, and eclipse against a dead black background sky. I am not sure film could capture the scene. Only 15 minutes but one for the books. It is always worth going to on the chance the magic may happen.


Re: Warp Drive Advances

George Reynolds
 

"Shields up!"  

We will need force field shields like they have on Star Trek.

I'm sure it's possible.  A lot of the science fiction devices on Star Trek have become commonplace devices, like the pager, cell phone, iPad (they called it the "Padd" that Captain Kirk signed when his yeoman presented it to him).

I'm not so sure about the transporter, though.  I think I'd be more like Dr. "Bones" McCoy, skeptical about having my molecules scrambled.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 


On Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:57:13 AM EDT, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:


Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: termination event

George Reynolds
 

That would make the Sun much more interesting on our Saturday "Sun" Day events.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 


On Friday, June 11, 2021, 01:47:35 PM EDT, Ted Forte <tedforte511@...> wrote:


Something big may be about to happen on the sun. "We call it the Termination Event," says Scott McIntosh, a solar physicist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), "and it's very, very close to happening."

If you've never heard of the Termination Event, you're not alone.  Many researchers have never heard of it either. It's a relatively new idea in solar physics championed by McIntosh and colleague Bob Leamon of the University of Maryland - Baltimore County. According to the two scientists, vast bands of magnetism are drifting across the surface of the sun. When oppositely-charged bands collide at the equator, they annihilate (or "terminate"). There's no explosion; this is magnetism, not anti-matter. Nevertheless, the Termination Event is a big deal. It can kickstart the next solar cycle into a higher gear.

"If the Terminator Event happens soon, as we expect, new Solar Cycle 25 could have a magnitude that rivals the top few since record-keeping began," says McIntosh.

More via SpaceWeather

 


termination event

Ted Forte
 

Something big may be about to happen on the sun. "We call it the Termination Event," says Scott McIntosh, a solar physicist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), "and it's very, very close to happening."

If you've never heard of the Termination Event, you're not alone.  Many researchers have never heard of it either. It's a relatively new idea in solar physics championed by McIntosh and colleague Bob Leamon of the University of Maryland - Baltimore County. According to the two scientists, vast bands of magnetism are drifting across the surface of the sun. When oppositely-charged bands collide at the equator, they annihilate (or "terminate"). There's no explosion; this is magnetism, not anti-matter. Nevertheless, the Termination Event is a big deal. It can kickstart the next solar cycle into a higher gear.

"If the Terminator Event happens soon, as we expect, new Solar Cycle 25 could have a magnitude that rivals the top few since record-keeping began," says McIntosh.

More via SpaceWeather

 


Re: Warp Drive Advances

Roy Diffrient
 

Hi Richard,
Yeah, as you say, astronauts need protection from space junk now and it will be vastly more important at warp speed.  That must be developed for warp drive to be useful – but I have faith.

I also found a free version of the Lentz paper referenced, “Breaking the Warp Barrier ... “ on the arXiv preprint server:


Caution, very heavy math.

Roy


On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Richard Saunders <rsaun58043@...> wrote:

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Re: Warp Drive Advances

Richard Saunders
 

Interesting, thanks for passing Roy.  Great stuff to think about.  I certainly believe achieving light speed or thereabouts is possible.  The problem I see, however, even at the relatively low speed of orbital velocity, i.e., ~17,000 mph, is that sooner or later a small piece of space dust, rocks, debris or whatever, will strike the spacecraft and either seriously damage or destroy it.  It doesn't have to be big to transfer destructive energy to the craft as per Einstein's E=MC².  We don't have material that could stand the impact and likely never will.  To survive space travel at high speeds a spacecraft would have to have some type of force field and that's something I think is not likely to be developed.  
Regards,
Scott


Warp Drive Advances

Roy Diffrient
 

Are we there yet?  Here’s a no-math, easy-read summary:


Re: One for the books. The most dramatic partial eclipse I have seen.

Jim Tallman
 

Thanks Chuck.

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