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Re: Monthly Meeting

Jeff Goldstein
 

Scott,

I’m all set for the ZOOM virtual meeting.  No word about meeting at TCC, just yet.

 

However, I think we may be able to meet in June at the TCC Science building JC-12 as before.

I’ll email the dean and put the request in.

 

Officially, TCC will be at 25% capacity for Face to Face teaching.  And 50% capacity in September.  That’s good news!

 

Sincerely,

Jeff Goldstein (TCC Liaison)

 

From: BackBayAstro@groups.io <BackBayAstro@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Saunders
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:45 PM
To: BackBayAstro@groups.io
Subject: [BackBayAstro] Monthly Meeting

 

Is the meeting on 6 May at TCC or will it be another virtual meeting?
R,
Scott


Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

joseph_piotrowski <joepiotrowski@cox.net>
 

I have been trying to sell my Celestron outfit. Good advice here. Thanks all.
I have reduced my prices significantly. Take a look all.


Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Tony Mascolo
 

Another thing about Cloudy Nights is that it is run by Astronomics, and once signed up they give members a discount on Astronomics purchases.

Later,

Tony

On Mon, May 3, 2021, 8:43 PM Bird Taylor <birdtaylor@...> wrote:
Hey Tony,

I concur.

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 20:26 07, Tony Mascolo <tsmascolo@...> wrote:

I have sold things on Cloudy Nights with no problems.  Good community, and no additional fees.  Just PayPal fees.

Later,

Tony

On Mon, May 3, 2021, 7:49 PM Bird Taylor <birdtaylor@...> wrote:
Hey Jonathan,

Feel free to post on the Virginia Peninsula Astronomy / Stargazers (VPAS), too… VPAS@groups.io

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 14:47 03, Paul <paultar@...> wrote:

You could always try the club via this forum as well. I know that is one reason I belong to astronomy clubs (purchase equipment from trusted people I know).

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan








Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Bird Taylor
 

Hey Tony,

I concur.

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 20:26 07, Tony Mascolo <tsmascolo@...> wrote:

I have sold things on Cloudy Nights with no problems.  Good community, and no additional fees.  Just PayPal fees.

Later,

Tony

On Mon, May 3, 2021, 7:49 PM Bird Taylor <birdtaylor@...> wrote:
Hey Jonathan,

Feel free to post on the Virginia Peninsula Astronomy / Stargazers (VPAS), too… VPAS@groups.io

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 14:47 03, Paul <paultar@...> wrote:

You could always try the club via this forum as well. I know that is one reason I belong to astronomy clubs (purchase equipment from trusted people I know).

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan








Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Tony Mascolo
 

I have sold things on Cloudy Nights with no problems.  Good community, and no additional fees.  Just PayPal fees.

Later,

Tony

On Mon, May 3, 2021, 7:49 PM Bird Taylor <birdtaylor@...> wrote:
Hey Jonathan,

Feel free to post on the Virginia Peninsula Astronomy / Stargazers (VPAS), too… VPAS@groups.io

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 14:47 03, Paul <paultar@...> wrote:

You could always try the club via this forum as well. I know that is one reason I belong to astronomy clubs (purchase equipment from trusted people I know).

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan





Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Bird Taylor
 

Hey Jonathan,

Feel free to post on the Virginia Peninsula Astronomy / Stargazers (VPAS), too… VPAS@groups.io

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird

On May 3, 2021, at 14:47 03, Paul <paultar@...> wrote:

You could always try the club via this forum as well. I know that is one reason I belong to astronomy clubs (purchase equipment from trusted people I know).

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan





Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Paul
 

You could always try the club via this forum as well. I know that is one reason I belong to astronomy clubs (purchase equipment from trusted people I know).


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan


Monthly Meeting

Richard Saunders
 

Is the meeting on 6 May at TCC or will it be another virtual meeting?
R,
Scott


Re: Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

RapidEye
 

Astromart used to be the goto place, but then the jerk who owned it got greedy in addition to being a complete jerk and started charging out the wazoo for everything.
Cloudynights is where I'd look now.
<RE>

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:26 AM Jonathan Scheetz <jonathan@...> wrote:

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan


Good site for buying and selling astronomical equipment

Jonathan Scheetz
 

I am thinking of selling some of my Explore Scientific eye pieces to purchase a 10mm Delos.

What would be a good place on line to do that?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Jonathan


Sky Watch May 1st

charles jagow
 

The weather looks like it will cooperate for tomorrow's Sky Watch.  This Sky Watch will be my last!   ☹  I have specifically not packed up my 12" DOB yet, just in case we were delayed on our departure to Colorado.

 

The installation of vinyl siding on our house in Chesapeake has been delayed again, now set to start on Wednesday the 5th.  We were planning on picking up our rental truck on Saturday the 8th and being on our way to Colorado on the morning of the 10th.  Now it looks like we will be moving that date to the right a few days.

 

We closed on our home in Colorado   https://www.zillow.com/homes/310-S-5th-St-Westcliffe-Co-81252_rb/128491834_zpid/  on April 27th, so now we are in the UN-enviable position of having double mortgage payments until our Chesapeake home sells.   While our new home is not actually on our homesteaded land it is within 11 miles and hopeful sometime after this COVID era of price gouging is over, we will pursue building a place up there once again.  I do plan on building the Verde Mont Observatory by the end of the summer up on the homestead.  If the Chesapeake house sells quick, it will be a bit larger observatory big enough to hold the 18” DOB and my imaging equipment.  I am leaning towards building a roll-off roof design, if the Chesapeake house lingers on, a Sky Shed POD may be in my immediate future.

 

I have been monitoring Jupiter’s progress in the early pre-dawn skies.  It is looking to be quite high in the sky as compared to last year.  I plan on packing the 12” DOB towards the end of the Truck so I can have access to it as soon as we get into Westcliffe.  I just can’t wait to play under the dark skies.

 

The local astronomy club there is a bit of a powerhouse for the size of the community.  They do provide a full-ride scholarship for two applicants every spring.  I was invited to dial in to their last “business” meeting earlier this month.  BOY!  Am I glad I am NOT their Treasurer, they have a half dozen accounts and annuities to wrangle.  Who would have thought a club in a town less than 800 people would be so “BIG”.  They have their very own public roll-off roof observatory, the Smokey Jack Observatory https://www.darkskiescolorado.org/smokey-jack-observatory.  The land was donated by the town of Westcliffe and the materials were donated by local folks and a few of the valley professional builders donated time and equipment to erect it.  It has a 14” SCT tied to a video setup that they can project on a screen outside of the observatory for many people to see, or they can rig it up for individual viewing.  I am already scheduled to take their training on the observatory so I can jump into the “mix” and begin hosting star parties at the Observatory, which is seems to be a nightly event. 

 

I hope to see folks at Sky Watch and I plan on being able to Zoom into the May meeting. 

 

v/r

Chuck Jagow

Member - Back Bay Amateur Astronomers

Member – Dark Skies of The Wet Mountain Valley

Member – Colorado Springs Astronomy Association

Rott'n Paws Observatory   Transitioning to   Verde Mont Observatory

 


Re: Thank you Michael Collins

Ian Stewart
 

Ahmen!

On 4/28/2021 6:06 PM, jimcoble2000 via groups.io wrote:
yes indeed.

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 5:46:01 PM EDT, Matthew Cook via groups.io <lt_mrcook@...> wrote:


What a life!


On Apr 28, 2021, at 16:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


“I am too old to fly to Mars, and I regret that. But I still think I have been very, very lucky,” he wrote. “I was born in the days of biplanes and Buck Rogers, learned to fly in the early jets, and hit my peak when moon rockets came along. That’s hard to beat.”


Michael Collins Apollo 11 Pilot. 90

April 2021


Re: Thank you Michael Collins

jimcoble2000
 

yes indeed.

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 5:46:01 PM EDT, Matthew Cook via groups.io <lt_mrcook@...> wrote:


What a life!


On Apr 28, 2021, at 16:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


“I am too old to fly to Mars, and I regret that. But I still think I have been very, very lucky,” he wrote. “I was born in the days of biplanes and Buck Rogers, learned to fly in the early jets, and hit my peak when moon rockets came along. That’s hard to beat.”


Michael Collins Apollo 11 Pilot. 90

April 2021


Re: Thank you Michael Collins

Matthew Cook
 

What a life!


On Apr 28, 2021, at 16:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


“I am too old to fly to Mars, and I regret that. But I still think I have been very, very lucky,” he wrote. “I was born in the days of biplanes and Buck Rogers, learned to fly in the early jets, and hit my peak when moon rockets came along. That’s hard to beat.”


Michael Collins Apollo 11 Pilot. 90

April 2021


Thank you Michael Collins

jimcoble2000
 

“I am too old to fly to Mars, and I regret that. But I still think I have been very, very lucky,” he wrote. “I was born in the days of biplanes and Buck Rogers, learned to fly in the early jets, and hit my peak when moon rockets came along. That’s hard to beat.”


Michael Collins Apollo 11 Pilot. 90

April 2021


Re: Observing last night in the arctic

preciousmyprecious
 

Hi Bob, I miss observing up there.

Carpe Noctem
Bill McLean


On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 09:02:43 AM EDT, bob414 <bob414@...> wrote:


Since y’all started talking about me.  Yes, I had cataract surgery, what a difference!

I had a detached retina 2003 in my left eye that acerbated the forming of cataracts in that (my dominate) left eye.

I remember being amazed how the people could walk around at ECSP in the dark, I was worried I would walk into a tree even with a red light. 

Things are a lot brighter after the surgery.  Actually the biggest and first thing I noticed was after getting one eye done, was the color white in the corrected eye was deep beige in the uncorrected eye.  Or simply stated, how BRIGHT and Clean white actually was!

Yes, there a lot more stars in the sky and they are brighter after my surgery.  And they come out to see me earlier.  But younger eyes still are better.

I had the single correction lens for being near sighted correction in each eye to 20/20.  I did not do the one for near and other eye for far sighted (how would that work for binocular?).  The third option when I had mine done was a multifocal lens.  I had heard at that time, that some people had spikes and halos with those lens.  So I went for the simpler and cheaper (Medicare covered 100%) solution.  I am happy with that decision, for that time.  But things in medicine are always improving, make your best informed decision for yourself at the time you get it done!

I still need reading glasses, and  for winter nights when keeping your ears warm is a concern, I found nose pincher reading glasses on a chain are good option.

Both Stu and George are older than I am, but I have had L3,4 and 5 fused in my back and have gained a little (a lot) of weight.  I do not carry a bucket camp chair any more, I use a directors chair that you can get at Harbor Freight on sale for $20.  The bucket chair where your rump is lower than your knees is a real pain getting up from.  I would like to find a source for a good set of grabbers.  Seems like I am dropping more the older I get, or is it just harder to pick up those things.

Bob Beuerlein

On April 25, 2021 at 2:25 PM "George Reynolds via groups.io" <pathfinder027@...> wrote:

Yeah, Stu, when I was young, I thought my parents were OLD in their 40s.  Now that I am 75 (almost 76), I don't FEEL old -- except when I have to get up from sitting in a chair!   Emoji

BBAA member Bob Beuerlein had cataract surgery a year or so ago, and he says it was very successful.  I may have to do it this year.  We'll see what happens.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 07:41:26 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Interesting story Mark...now I know...I went thru much the same...everything taken. So I use my ham call sign for most everything anymore. I know no one has that but me.

BTW, talking age...if I make it to November, I will have been around the Sun 80 times...HaHa... and I used to think 40 was old!

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:31 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Oh sigh..................................yes Stu

As you know, I have never had an original though in my life! When I was getting on the internet way back when, they, of course, wanted a screen name. Being a bit on the dim side, everything I tried came up already taken (see first sentence). Soooo I got pissed off and put the name of one of my first professors and the damn thing took. Normally this would be unethical but it was too much trouble to change and no one has complained in two decades so I think I am safe.

If I only had a brain, as the scarecrow sang to Dorthy. That is the source of the screen name.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 7:12:41 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Mark...I'm sure you will do fine. I am most pleased with the results of my surgery. I do have to use the little half glasses for anything inside 2 feet...but I can live with that. When I use a focuser, it will be off just a tiny bit for a normal person...no problem. My wife had her's done and she got one eye near and one eye far. She doesn't need glasses for anything and after awhile your brain quickly and automatically adjust to suit the distance change. This is mostly a women's thing.

BTW the way Mark...I've always wondered about you "handle"... "jimcoble". Is there a story behind that?

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:47 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Thanks Stu
I have heard from several people that they were quite happy with the results. Of course any surgery is always a risk and you have to weigh risk vs reward. That is why I have waited so long. The way I fugue I am fine for everyday use but I know that is going to change soon so what the heck lets give it a go. Waiting till later age will only lessen the chance as old people do not do as well as younger folks. Of course at 67 I can't claim to be young at the moment. I hear you though. I hope that the intervening years have improved things.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 6:27:34 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Hey George & Mark...Hope you guys do better than I did... I had mine done years ago and technology may have changed by now but this is what happen to me...

I had cataracts and I got those removed and new lens so I wouldn't need glasses for far stuff (over 2 feet to infinity)...so far so good...I was told the new lens had to be installed at a particular angle to work. They are actually inserted and unfolded inside your eye and "hooked" inside your eye until growth anchors them. BTW, you are awake while this happens...Both of my lens moved in the first 24 hours and I had to go thru the procedure twice for each eye. It took several months to finish the replacement procedure. My luck had this happening from 1 year to the next over christmas holidays so I had to wait while the doctor was on christmas leave. The doctor didn't charge for each second seating but the hospital did because it was a new year and it took an act of congress to get that reversed. I had to finally see the hospital administrator to reverse that. One eye is still off a couple degrees but I am not doing it again!

Good luck,
Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:01 PM George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark,

I can identify with you about the eye problems and cataracts.  My dominant left eye is the worst, but my right eye is also less sensitive than it once was. When my Granddaughters Samantha and Chloe point out dim stars as they appear in the twilight, I just can't see them.  My eye doctor says he is ready to remove the cataracts, any time I am ready.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Friday, April 23, 2021, 08:03:49 AM EDT, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


OMG was it cold last night. I just woke up with a huge headache and feeling like Boris Karloff in the Mummy due to no humidity in the air.

We had a really nice session last night despite a complete blanket of clouds in the early evening. It cleared as darkness descended and the temperature dropped Emoji. I had on all my winter gear save my arctic books, which I later regretted not bringing with me. You don't associate surplus Korea cold weather boots with observing just a week before May. I think the humidity was something in the 30's during that session. Bone dry.

Seeing was excellent.  Kent and I saw quite a variety of double stars, some quite difficult. It has been a while since I devoted a night to doubles in a serious manner. One of the fun objects of the session was an interesting asterism composed of a triple star system inside another perfect trio of three stars lying in another orientation with respect to the triple star. I believe this has been termed "stargate" informally by some observers. Located in the Corvus and Crater constellations, this weird object form a further trio of three objects. This alrger grouping is formed of M-104, the strange "L" shaped asterism that point to the galaxy, which was visible despite the moon, and "stargate". These look for all the world as if they have been placed by an alien civilization for some celestial purpose foreign to anything on Earth. Most of us don't spend too much time down there in these southern constellations save to see M-104. Combined, all these objects form a weird grouping in a low power eyepiece. They are all the  more weird as they stand out in a suburban sky, isolated from any dimmer background stars.

I did get a look at the moon earlier in the evening and was able to apply higher powers of 384X and 408X. I was able to see the lunar volcano Hortensias Domes (A and B) close to Copurnicus. It is rare to be able to apply that kind of power as seeing usually will not support it. Last night though I could make out the summit pit (vent) of Hortensius A at 408X. I tried to see the rille going down the middle of Alpine Valley but could not see it despite my best efforts. This is hardly surprising as I have only seen this feature once in 30 years. I rate it as one of the most difficult observations to make on the moon.

When I really want to observe the finest lunar detail I use a Baader Prism diagonal in combination with an  Abbe orthoscopic eyepiece. Often I have been able to resolve very fine details which are invisible even in the best wide field eyepieces such as Pentax or Televue. These eyepieces were designed in 1880 by Ernst Abbe for use in microscopes. Telescopes and microscopes have a lot in common. Believe me I know, as much of my junior year in college was spent with my orbs glued to a polarizing microscope while taking mineralogy and petrology. I think I have rings like a racoon around my eyes from that year.

One distressing thing that was apparent last night is the deterioration of my eyes due to cataracts. Age has caught up with me there and it is time for surgery now.  The moon always has a ring of haze around it now and my dominant eye, the left, is no longer as sensitive to dim objects as my right eye is. This has been coming on for some time now and it has reached the point where action is required. I have compensated with a lot of observing experience up to this point but now things are coming to a head.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: Observing last night in the arctic

Stu Beaber
 

Bob...you're a man after my own heart...I too had to give up the bucket chair and replace it with the director's chair from harbour freight and also got the grabbers from Portsmouth hardware before they went out of business. Small world!

Stu


On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:02 AM bob414 <bob414@...> wrote:

Since y’all started talking about me.  Yes, I had cataract surgery, what a difference!

I had a detached retina 2003 in my left eye that acerbated the forming of cataracts in that (my dominate) left eye.

I remember being amazed how the people could walk around at ECSP in the dark, I was worried I would walk into a tree even with a red light. 

Things are a lot brighter after the surgery.  Actually the biggest and first thing I noticed was after getting one eye done, was the color white in the corrected eye was deep beige in the uncorrected eye.  Or simply stated, how BRIGHT and Clean white actually was!

Yes, there a lot more stars in the sky and they are brighter after my surgery.  And they come out to see me earlier.  But younger eyes still are better.

I had the single correction lens for being near sighted correction in each eye to 20/20.  I did not do the one for near and other eye for far sighted (how would that work for binocular?).  The third option when I had mine done was a multifocal lens.  I had heard at that time, that some people had spikes and halos with those lens.  So I went for the simpler and cheaper (Medicare covered 100%) solution.  I am happy with that decision, for that time.  But things in medicine are always improving, make your best informed decision for yourself at the time you get it done!

I still need reading glasses, and  for winter nights when keeping your ears warm is a concern, I found nose pincher reading glasses on a chain are good option.

Both Stu and George are older than I am, but I have had L3,4 and 5 fused in my back and have gained a little (a lot) of weight.  I do not carry a bucket camp chair any more, I use a directors chair that you can get at Harbor Freight on sale for $20.  The bucket chair where your rump is lower than your knees is a real pain getting up from.  I would like to find a source for a good set of grabbers.  Seems like I am dropping more the older I get, or is it just harder to pick up those things.

Bob Beuerlein

On April 25, 2021 at 2:25 PM "George Reynolds via groups.io" <pathfinder027=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Yeah, Stu, when I was young, I thought my parents were OLD in their 40s.  Now that I am 75 (almost 76), I don't FEEL old -- except when I have to get up from sitting in a chair!   Emoji

BBAA member Bob Beuerlein had cataract surgery a year or so ago, and he says it was very successful.  I may have to do it this year.  We'll see what happens.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 07:41:26 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Interesting story Mark...now I know...I went thru much the same...everything taken. So I use my ham call sign for most everything anymore. I know no one has that but me.

BTW, talking age...if I make it to November, I will have been around the Sun 80 times...HaHa... and I used to think 40 was old!

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:31 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Oh sigh..................................yes Stu

As you know, I have never had an original though in my life! When I was getting on the internet way back when, they, of course, wanted a screen name. Being a bit on the dim side, everything I tried came up already taken (see first sentence). Soooo I got pissed off and put the name of one of my first professors and the damn thing took. Normally this would be unethical but it was too much trouble to change and no one has complained in two decades so I think I am safe.

If I only had a brain, as the scarecrow sang to Dorthy. That is the source of the screen name.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 7:12:41 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Mark...I'm sure you will do fine. I am most pleased with the results of my surgery. I do have to use the little half glasses for anything inside 2 feet...but I can live with that. When I use a focuser, it will be off just a tiny bit for a normal person...no problem. My wife had her's done and she got one eye near and one eye far. She doesn't need glasses for anything and after awhile your brain quickly and automatically adjust to suit the distance change. This is mostly a women's thing.

BTW the way Mark...I've always wondered about you "handle"... "jimcoble". Is there a story behind that?

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:47 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Thanks Stu
I have heard from several people that they were quite happy with the results. Of course any surgery is always a risk and you have to weigh risk vs reward. That is why I have waited so long. The way I fugue I am fine for everyday use but I know that is going to change soon so what the heck lets give it a go. Waiting till later age will only lessen the chance as old people do not do as well as younger folks. Of course at 67 I can't claim to be young at the moment. I hear you though. I hope that the intervening years have improved things.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 6:27:34 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Hey George & Mark...Hope you guys do better than I did... I had mine done years ago and technology may have changed by now but this is what happen to me...

I had cataracts and I got those removed and new lens so I wouldn't need glasses for far stuff (over 2 feet to infinity)...so far so good...I was told the new lens had to be installed at a particular angle to work. They are actually inserted and unfolded inside your eye and "hooked" inside your eye until growth anchors them. BTW, you are awake while this happens...Both of my lens moved in the first 24 hours and I had to go thru the procedure twice for each eye. It took several months to finish the replacement procedure. My luck had this happening from 1 year to the next over christmas holidays so I had to wait while the doctor was on christmas leave. The doctor didn't charge for each second seating but the hospital did because it was a new year and it took an act of congress to get that reversed. I had to finally see the hospital administrator to reverse that. One eye is still off a couple degrees but I am not doing it again!

Good luck,
Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:01 PM George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark,

I can identify with you about the eye problems and cataracts.  My dominant left eye is the worst, but my right eye is also less sensitive than it once was. When my Granddaughters Samantha and Chloe point out dim stars as they appear in the twilight, I just can't see them.  My eye doctor says he is ready to remove the cataracts, any time I am ready.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Friday, April 23, 2021, 08:03:49 AM EDT, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


OMG was it cold last night. I just woke up with a huge headache and feeling like Boris Karloff in the Mummy due to no humidity in the air.

We had a really nice session last night despite a complete blanket of clouds in the early evening. It cleared as darkness descended and the temperature dropped Emoji. I had on all my winter gear save my arctic books, which I later regretted not bringing with me. You don't associate surplus Korea cold weather boots with observing just a week before May. I think the humidity was something in the 30's during that session. Bone dry.

Seeing was excellent.  Kent and I saw quite a variety of double stars, some quite difficult. It has been a while since I devoted a night to doubles in a serious manner. One of the fun objects of the session was an interesting asterism composed of a triple star system inside another perfect trio of three stars lying in another orientation with respect to the triple star. I believe this has been termed "stargate" informally by some observers. Located in the Corvus and Crater constellations, this weird object form a further trio of three objects. This alrger grouping is formed of M-104, the strange "L" shaped asterism that point to the galaxy, which was visible despite the moon, and "stargate". These look for all the world as if they have been placed by an alien civilization for some celestial purpose foreign to anything on Earth. Most of us don't spend too much time down there in these southern constellations save to see M-104. Combined, all these objects form a weird grouping in a low power eyepiece. They are all the  more weird as they stand out in a suburban sky, isolated from any dimmer background stars.

I did get a look at the moon earlier in the evening and was able to apply higher powers of 384X and 408X. I was able to see the lunar volcano Hortensias Domes (A and B) close to Copurnicus. It is rare to be able to apply that kind of power as seeing usually will not support it. Last night though I could make out the summit pit (vent) of Hortensius A at 408X. I tried to see the rille going down the middle of Alpine Valley but could not see it despite my best efforts. This is hardly surprising as I have only seen this feature once in 30 years. I rate it as one of the most difficult observations to make on the moon.

When I really want to observe the finest lunar detail I use a Baader Prism diagonal in combination with an  Abbe orthoscopic eyepiece. Often I have been able to resolve very fine details which are invisible even in the best wide field eyepieces such as Pentax or Televue. These eyepieces were designed in 1880 by Ernst Abbe for use in microscopes. Telescopes and microscopes have a lot in common. Believe me I know, as much of my junior year in college was spent with my orbs glued to a polarizing microscope while taking mineralogy and petrology. I think I have rings like a racoon around my eyes from that year.

One distressing thing that was apparent last night is the deterioration of my eyes due to cataracts. Age has caught up with me there and it is time for surgery now.  The moon always has a ring of haze around it now and my dominant eye, the left, is no longer as sensitive to dim objects as my right eye is. This has been coming on for some time now and it has reached the point where action is required. I have compensated with a lot of observing experience up to this point but now things are coming to a head.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: Observing last night in the arctic

bob414
 

Since y’all started talking about me.  Yes, I had cataract surgery, what a difference!

I had a detached retina 2003 in my left eye that acerbated the forming of cataracts in that (my dominate) left eye.

I remember being amazed how the people could walk around at ECSP in the dark, I was worried I would walk into a tree even with a red light. 

Things are a lot brighter after the surgery.  Actually the biggest and first thing I noticed was after getting one eye done, was the color white in the corrected eye was deep beige in the uncorrected eye.  Or simply stated, how BRIGHT and Clean white actually was!

Yes, there a lot more stars in the sky and they are brighter after my surgery.  And they come out to see me earlier.  But younger eyes still are better.

I had the single correction lens for being near sighted correction in each eye to 20/20.  I did not do the one for near and other eye for far sighted (how would that work for binocular?).  The third option when I had mine done was a multifocal lens.  I had heard at that time, that some people had spikes and halos with those lens.  So I went for the simpler and cheaper (Medicare covered 100%) solution.  I am happy with that decision, for that time.  But things in medicine are always improving, make your best informed decision for yourself at the time you get it done!

I still need reading glasses, and  for winter nights when keeping your ears warm is a concern, I found nose pincher reading glasses on a chain are good option.

Both Stu and George are older than I am, but I have had L3,4 and 5 fused in my back and have gained a little (a lot) of weight.  I do not carry a bucket camp chair any more, I use a directors chair that you can get at Harbor Freight on sale for $20.  The bucket chair where your rump is lower than your knees is a real pain getting up from.  I would like to find a source for a good set of grabbers.  Seems like I am dropping more the older I get, or is it just harder to pick up those things.

Bob Beuerlein

On April 25, 2021 at 2:25 PM "George Reynolds via groups.io" <pathfinder027@...> wrote:

Yeah, Stu, when I was young, I thought my parents were OLD in their 40s.  Now that I am 75 (almost 76), I don't FEEL old -- except when I have to get up from sitting in a chair!   Emoji

BBAA member Bob Beuerlein had cataract surgery a year or so ago, and he says it was very successful.  I may have to do it this year.  We'll see what happens.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 07:41:26 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Interesting story Mark...now I know...I went thru much the same...everything taken. So I use my ham call sign for most everything anymore. I know no one has that but me.

BTW, talking age...if I make it to November, I will have been around the Sun 80 times...HaHa... and I used to think 40 was old!

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:31 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Oh sigh..................................yes Stu

As you know, I have never had an original though in my life! When I was getting on the internet way back when, they, of course, wanted a screen name. Being a bit on the dim side, everything I tried came up already taken (see first sentence). Soooo I got pissed off and put the name of one of my first professors and the damn thing took. Normally this would be unethical but it was too much trouble to change and no one has complained in two decades so I think I am safe.

If I only had a brain, as the scarecrow sang to Dorthy. That is the source of the screen name.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 7:12:41 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Mark...I'm sure you will do fine. I am most pleased with the results of my surgery. I do have to use the little half glasses for anything inside 2 feet...but I can live with that. When I use a focuser, it will be off just a tiny bit for a normal person...no problem. My wife had her's done and she got one eye near and one eye far. She doesn't need glasses for anything and after awhile your brain quickly and automatically adjust to suit the distance change. This is mostly a women's thing.

BTW the way Mark...I've always wondered about you "handle"... "jimcoble". Is there a story behind that?

Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:47 PM jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Thanks Stu
I have heard from several people that they were quite happy with the results. Of course any surgery is always a risk and you have to weigh risk vs reward. That is why I have waited so long. The way I fugue I am fine for everyday use but I know that is going to change soon so what the heck lets give it a go. Waiting till later age will only lessen the chance as old people do not do as well as younger folks. Of course at 67 I can't claim to be young at the moment. I hear you though. I hope that the intervening years have improved things.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 6:27:34 PM EDT, Stu Beaber <wd4sel@...> wrote:


Hey George & Mark...Hope you guys do better than I did... I had mine done years ago and technology may have changed by now but this is what happen to me...

I had cataracts and I got those removed and new lens so I wouldn't need glasses for far stuff (over 2 feet to infinity)...so far so good...I was told the new lens had to be installed at a particular angle to work. They are actually inserted and unfolded inside your eye and "hooked" inside your eye until growth anchors them. BTW, you are awake while this happens...Both of my lens moved in the first 24 hours and I had to go thru the procedure twice for each eye. It took several months to finish the replacement procedure. My luck had this happening from 1 year to the next over christmas holidays so I had to wait while the doctor was on christmas leave. The doctor didn't charge for each second seating but the hospital did because it was a new year and it took an act of congress to get that reversed. I had to finally see the hospital administrator to reverse that. One eye is still off a couple degrees but I am not doing it again!

Good luck,
Stu

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:01 PM George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark,

I can identify with you about the eye problems and cataracts.  My dominant left eye is the worst, but my right eye is also less sensitive than it once was. When my Granddaughters Samantha and Chloe point out dim stars as they appear in the twilight, I just can't see them.  My eye doctor says he is ready to remove the cataracts, any time I am ready.

George


George Reynolds

"Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia
Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) 
http://www.backbayastro.org


 
 


On Friday, April 23, 2021, 08:03:49 AM EDT, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


OMG was it cold last night. I just woke up with a huge headache and feeling like Boris Karloff in the Mummy due to no humidity in the air.

We had a really nice session last night despite a complete blanket of clouds in the early evening. It cleared as darkness descended and the temperature dropped Emoji. I had on all my winter gear save my arctic books, which I later regretted not bringing with me. You don't associate surplus Korea cold weather boots with observing just a week before May. I think the humidity was something in the 30's during that session. Bone dry.

Seeing was excellent.  Kent and I saw quite a variety of double stars, some quite difficult. It has been a while since I devoted a night to doubles in a serious manner. One of the fun objects of the session was an interesting asterism composed of a triple star system inside another perfect trio of three stars lying in another orientation with respect to the triple star. I believe this has been termed "stargate" informally by some observers. Located in the Corvus and Crater constellations, this weird object form a further trio of three objects. This alrger grouping is formed of M-104, the strange "L" shaped asterism that point to the galaxy, which was visible despite the moon, and "stargate". These look for all the world as if they have been placed by an alien civilization for some celestial purpose foreign to anything on Earth. Most of us don't spend too much time down there in these southern constellations save to see M-104. Combined, all these objects form a weird grouping in a low power eyepiece. They are all the  more weird as they stand out in a suburban sky, isolated from any dimmer background stars.

I did get a look at the moon earlier in the evening and was able to apply higher powers of 384X and 408X. I was able to see the lunar volcano Hortensias Domes (A and B) close to Copurnicus. It is rare to be able to apply that kind of power as seeing usually will not support it. Last night though I could make out the summit pit (vent) of Hortensius A at 408X. I tried to see the rille going down the middle of Alpine Valley but could not see it despite my best efforts. This is hardly surprising as I have only seen this feature once in 30 years. I rate it as one of the most difficult observations to make on the moon.

When I really want to observe the finest lunar detail I use a Baader Prism diagonal in combination with an  Abbe orthoscopic eyepiece. Often I have been able to resolve very fine details which are invisible even in the best wide field eyepieces such as Pentax or Televue. These eyepieces were designed in 1880 by Ernst Abbe for use in microscopes. Telescopes and microscopes have a lot in common. Believe me I know, as much of my junior year in college was spent with my orbs glued to a polarizing microscope while taking mineralogy and petrology. I think I have rings like a racoon around my eyes from that year.

One distressing thing that was apparent last night is the deterioration of my eyes due to cataracts. Age has caught up with me there and it is time for surgery now.  The moon always has a ring of haze around it now and my dominant eye, the left, is no longer as sensitive to dim objects as my right eye is. This has been coming on for some time now and it has reached the point where action is required. I have compensated with a lot of observing experience up to this point but now things are coming to a head.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: The Sun today. Last night's occultations.

jimcoble2000
 

Never send an occultation observer to observe on rail road tracks. They are known for concentrating on the telescope and may not notice oncoming trains

On Monday, April 26, 2021, 9:24:42 AM EDT, George Reynolds via groups.io <pathfinder027@...> wrote:


Mark,

I don't understand the reference to railroad tracks. What does that have to do with observing the stars?

George


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:59, jimcoble2000 via groups.io
<jimcoble2000@...> wrote:
Things are ramping up as there are three sunspots connected by a bright hot region (in H Alpha). The Ha view shows several large filaments (overhead views of prominence) on the face of the sun. There is a large loop prominence and a single tower type. Nothing huge in the profile view but things are definitely coming to life.

Last night's twin occultation of the almost full moon.

There was a nice occultation of 65 Virgo (6th magnitude) by the moon. The phase of the moon was not quite full so I was curious as to how close the star would get to the terminator. This would show how much of the moon was not illuminated. It got a lot closer than I imagined before it disappeared. The moon is very close to completely full so the star got very close to the terminator. Not much hidden there. Usually we assume that full moon illuminates the entire visible face but actually full moon only lasts a very short time, hours at most. The terminator never stops moving so even on a "full moon night" something is always dark somewhere. The occultation gave a chance to accurately judge how much was till hidden (not much BTW). Less than I would have though as I said above.

At 2142 there was a second 6th magnitude star occulted to the same effect.

How precise are the predictions based on location? Well pretty good. Only a few miles can make a difference as Kent and I found out years ago while trying to observe a grazing pass. We could not see the graze from our location but only a few miles away another observer could see the graze. At 1/4 million miles distance to the moon you would not think a couple of Earth miles would make a difference but it does.

So the night turned out to be salvageable astronomically speaking. God the moon looks huge compared to the star. Sort of like the Star Wars death star approaching. I love occultations as they give you a sense of things in motion. Thank God they aren't normally observed on rail road tracks as it takes a bit of concentration and it could be fatal to occultation observers.


Re: The Sun today. Last night's occultations.

George Reynolds
 

Mark,

I don't understand the reference to railroad tracks. What does that have to do with observing the stars?

George


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:59, jimcoble2000 via groups.io
<jimcoble2000@...> wrote:
Things are ramping up as there are three sunspots connected by a bright hot region (in H Alpha). The Ha view shows several large filaments (overhead views of prominence) on the face of the sun. There is a large loop prominence and a single tower type. Nothing huge in the profile view but things are definitely coming to life.

Last night's twin occultation of the almost full moon.

There was a nice occultation of 65 Virgo (6th magnitude) by the moon. The phase of the moon was not quite full so I was curious as to how close the star would get to the terminator. This would show how much of the moon was not illuminated. It got a lot closer than I imagined before it disappeared. The moon is very close to completely full so the star got very close to the terminator. Not much hidden there. Usually we assume that full moon illuminates the entire visible face but actually full moon only lasts a very short time, hours at most. The terminator never stops moving so even on a "full moon night" something is always dark somewhere. The occultation gave a chance to accurately judge how much was till hidden (not much BTW). Less than I would have though as I said above.

At 2142 there was a second 6th magnitude star occulted to the same effect.

How precise are the predictions based on location? Well pretty good. Only a few miles can make a difference as Kent and I found out years ago while trying to observe a grazing pass. We could not see the graze from our location but only a few miles away another observer could see the graze. At 1/4 million miles distance to the moon you would not think a couple of Earth miles would make a difference but it does.

So the night turned out to be salvageable astronomically speaking. God the moon looks huge compared to the star. Sort of like the Star Wars death star approaching. I love occultations as they give you a sense of things in motion. Thank God they aren't normally observed on rail road tracks as it takes a bit of concentration and it could be fatal to occultation observers.

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