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Re: Return to Coinjock

charles jagow
 

I am thinking out loud that perhaps we could organize a return to Coinjock impromptu stargazing session this Fall/Winter?
On November 17, 2020 1:51 PM Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:


Great write-up Mark. Unfortunately we all knew of few of those ghosts out there. I miss them. I also miss ECSP. Maybe someday.

Cheers

Ian


On 11/17/2020 10:53 AM, Mark Ost wrote:
I am surprised Kent has not files a report from last night's observing and old folks week. I had booked a night down in Coinjock at the KOA. Monday looked a sure bet for weather and I figured that no one would be camping on Monday with a 40 degree night.

I arrived early at the site in order to seize a camping spot where I used to set up in the Cedars. I thought I should hedge my bets and prevent anyone from starting a fire where it would spoil the view. I need not have worried. No one came at all as I had predicted. I knew Kent and Bob might join me down there in the evening. I spent a quiet day reading in 60 degree weather undisturbed. The cedars are as they were before. The rest of the campground has been remarkably changed but as Kent said the outside lighting has been modified for a more night friendly illumination. More on that later.

I was quite happy to be back but with the coming of the long shadows at 5 in the afternoon I think I understand what the Native Americans say about the landscape being haunted by ghosts of their ancestors. As you remember that was the time most people started filing into the cedars back in the old days but it was only me left standing where so many once were; now only ghosts. It had not occurred to me to feel this way, unbidden, until the sun started to set but I swear it was distinctly strange to be there alone as none of you all were there anymore.

Yes there are ghosts and they do inhabit the land. You just have to be there at the right time and listen. Fortunately Kent and Bob pulled up just as too many memories were coming up.

We set up my 4 inch and Kent broke out his 25. Kent had informed me he though it was darker than before since the new lighting had been installed. Also there is less traffic due to the different population at the camp ground, most of whom had gone for the season. Kent was right. I think it is much darker now.

I believe Kent is late in his narrative due to all the stars looking like planetaries in somewhat poor seeing. He has a zillion sightings to report. Here my four inch had the advantage. Seeing did not really affect me as much using small aperture. The difference between the 3 and 25 seeing wise was remarkable. It was a huge pleasure to observe again under dark skies. You never really know what your scope can do until you get in the right place. I was able to see most galaxies Kent was chasing if not define them quite as much. In 10 transparency there were an infinite supply of galaxies and nebula to be see even in a 4 inch. And even one new comet.

I will let Kent provide a more comprehensive list of objects but the highlights for me were the bubble nebula, a combination of open cluster and nebula called the "spider and the fly" in Auriga, NGC 235 way down south in both the 4 and the 25 almost through the trees. I had never spent much time on the bubble for some reason but last night it was easy the Televue with a Baader UHC. Just an amazing delicate object. You first see the bright clutch of stars but then the bubble come clear with a bit of patience, a transparent soap bubble in the sky. Many galaxies were seen, too many to mention without getting boring.

And oh yes, that comet Atlas in Orion. There had been some discussion as the magnitude of it. Kent and I agreed it was 9th magnitude and a fine telescopic comet. It is a wide fan shape with a fainter tail that does extend a bit of distance from the head. Last night it was close on to a 7th magnitude star and at low power merged into the star. It does respond to a comet filter which helps show the wide fan of a tail. Easily seen in the 4 and 25. Kent and Bob left around 1030 and I stayed the night. I quit around midnight exhausted. The milky ways just blazed overhead. It was worth the 50$ a night for camping in that sky. The final parting shot was at midnight a dinosaur killing meteor just blazed east to west under Orion. It lit up the campground. I have never seen such a wide wide path. It looked like smoke was rolling off it. It lasted forever in a huge wide green streak. That was the largest one I have ever seen.

Left the haunted ground at 730 this morning to go back to VB.

v/r

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Re: Return to Coinjock

Ian Stewart
 

Great write-up Mark. Unfortunately we all knew of few of those ghosts out there. I miss them. I also miss ECSP. Maybe someday.

Cheers

Ian


On 11/17/2020 10:53 AM, Mark Ost wrote:
I am surprised Kent has not files a report from last night's observing and old folks week. I had booked a night down in Coinjock at the KOA. Monday looked a sure bet for weather and I figured that no one would be camping on Monday with a 40 degree night.

I arrived early at the site in order to seize a camping spot where I used to set up in the Cedars. I thought I should hedge my bets and prevent anyone from starting a fire where it would spoil the view. I need not have worried. No one came at all as I had predicted. I knew Kent and Bob might join me down there in the evening. I spent a quiet day reading in 60 degree weather undisturbed. The cedars are as they were before. The rest of the campground has been remarkably changed but as Kent said the outside lighting has been modified for a more night friendly illumination. More on that later.

I was quite happy to be back but with the coming of the long shadows at 5 in the afternoon I think I understand what the Native Americans say about the landscape being haunted by ghosts of their ancestors. As you remember that was the time most people started filing into the cedars back in the old days but it was only me left standing where so many once were; now only ghosts. It had not occurred to me to feel this way, unbidden, until the sun started to set but I swear it was distinctly strange to be there alone as none of you all were there anymore.

Yes there are ghosts and they do inhabit the land. You just have to be there at the right time and listen. Fortunately Kent and Bob pulled up just as too many memories were coming up.

We set up my 4 inch and Kent broke out his 25. Kent had informed me he though it was darker than before since the new lighting had been installed. Also there is less traffic due to the different population at the camp ground, most of whom had gone for the season. Kent was right. I think it is much darker now.

I believe Kent is late in his narrative due to all the stars looking like planetaries in somewhat poor seeing. He has a zillion sightings to report. Here my four inch had the advantage. Seeing did not really affect me as much using small aperture. The difference between the 3 and 25 seeing wise was remarkable. It was a huge pleasure to observe again under dark skies. You never really know what your scope can do until you get in the right place. I was able to see most galaxies Kent was chasing if not define them quite as much. In 10 transparency there were an infinite supply of galaxies and nebula to be see even in a 4 inch. And even one new comet.

I will let Kent provide a more comprehensive list of objects but the highlights for me were the bubble nebula, a combination of open cluster and nebula called the "spider and the fly" in Auriga, NGC 235 way down south in both the 4 and the 25 almost through the trees. I had never spent much time on the bubble for some reason but last night it was easy the Televue with a Baader UHC. Just an amazing delicate object. You first see the bright clutch of stars but then the bubble come clear with a bit of patience, a transparent soap bubble in the sky. Many galaxies were seen, too many to mention without getting boring.

And oh yes, that comet Atlas in Orion. There had been some discussion as the magnitude of it. Kent and I agreed it was 9th magnitude and a fine telescopic comet. It is a wide fan shape with a fainter tail that does extend a bit of distance from the head. Last night it was close on to a 7th magnitude star and at low power merged into the star. It does respond to a comet filter which helps show the wide fan of a tail. Easily seen in the 4 and 25. Kent and Bob left around 1030 and I stayed the night. I quit around midnight exhausted. The milky ways just blazed overhead. It was worth the 50$ a night for camping in that sky. The final parting shot was at midnight a dinosaur killing meteor just blazed east to west under Orion. It lit up the campground. I have never seen such a wide wide path. It looked like smoke was rolling off it. It lasted forever in a huge wide green streak. That was the largest one I have ever seen.

Left the haunted ground at 730 this morning to go back to VB.


Sorry about some of the typos. I am barely conscious after a late night

jimcoble2000
 

You can fill in the gaps


Return to Coinjock

jimcoble2000
 

I am surprised Kent has not files a report from last night's observing and old folks week. I had booked a night down in Coinjock at the KOA. Monday looked a sure bet for weather and I figured that no one would be camping on Monday with a 40 degree night.

I arrived early at the site in order to seize a camping spot where I used to set up in the Cedars. I thought I should hedge my bets and prevent anyone from starting a fire where it would spoil the view. I need not have worried. No one came at all as I had predicted. I knew Kent and Bob might join me down there in the evening. I spent a quiet day reading in 60 degree weather undisturbed. The cedars are as they were before. The rest of the campground has been remarkably changed but as Kent said the outside lighting has been modified for a more night friendly illumination. More on that later.

I was quite happy to be back but with the coming of the long shadows at 5 in the afternoon I think I understand what the Native Americans say about the landscape being haunted by ghosts of their ancestors. As you remember that was the time most people started filing into the cedars back in the old days but it was only me left standing where so many once were; now only ghosts. It had not occurred to me to feel this way, unbidden, until the sun started to set but I swear it was distinctly strange to be there alone as none of you all were there anymore.

Yes there are ghosts and they do inhabit the land. You just have to be there at the right time and listen. Fortunately Kent and Bob pulled up just as too many memories were coming up.

We set up my 4 inch and Kent broke out his 25. Kent had informed me he though it was darker than before since the new lighting had been installed. Also there is less traffic due to the different population at the camp ground, most of whom had gone for the season. Kent was right. I think it is much darker now.

I believe Kent is late in his narrative due to all the stars looking like planetaries in somewhat poor seeing. He has a zillion sightings to report. Here my four inch had the advantage. Seeing did not really affect me as much using small aperture. The difference between the 3 and 25 seeing wise was remarkable. It was a huge pleasure to observe again under dark skies. You never really know what your scope can do until you get in the right place. I was able to see most galaxies Kent was chasing if not define them quite as much. In 10 transparency there were an infinite supply of galaxies and nebula to be see even in a 4 inch. And even one new comet.

I will let Kent provide a more comprehensive list of objects but the highlights for me were the bubble nebula, a combination of open cluster and nebula called the "spider and the fly" in Auriga, NGC 235 way down south in both the 4 and the 25 almost through the trees. I had never spent much time on the bubble for some reason but last night it was easy the Televue with a Baader UHC. Just an amazing delicate object. You first see the bright clutch of stars but then the bubble come clear with a bit of patience, a transparent soap bubble in the sky. Many galaxies were seen, too many to mention without getting boring.

And oh yes, that comet Atlas in Orion. There had been some discussion as the magnitude of it. Kent and I agreed it was 9th magnitude and a fine telescopic comet. It is a wide fan shape with a fainter tail that does extend a bit of distance from the head. Last night it was close on to a 7th magnitude star and at low power merged into the star. It does respond to a comet filter which helps show the wide fan of a tail. Easily seen in the 4 and 25. Kent and Bob left around 1030 and I stayed the night. I quit around midnight exhausted. The milky ways just blazed overhead. It was worth the 50$ a night for camping in that sky. The final parting shot was at midnight a dinosaur killing meteor just blazed east to west under Orion. It lit up the campground. I have never seen such a wide wide path. It looked like smoke was rolling off it. It lasted forever in a huge wide green streak. That was the largest one I have ever seen.

Left the haunted ground at 730 this morning to go back to VB.


Re: NGC1333 From Last Night

Roy Diffrient
 

Pretty cute, Ian – love that “reflection blue“.  

I went out around midnight - 1 am last night looking for Leonids.  Didn’t see any – no meteor storm this year I guess.  But the stars were bright and extremely twinkly here.  Not great seeing I’m sure.

Roy


On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Ian Stewart <swampcolliecoffee@...> wrote:

A crisp clear cool night last night. Guiding/seeing was a little funky but I did some time on NGC1333 a wonderful little reflection nebula in Perseus.
Cheers
Ian
NGC1333


NGC1333 From Last Night

Ian Stewart
 

A crisp clear cool night last night. Guiding/seeing was a little funky but I did some time on NGC1333 a wonderful little reflection nebula in Perseus.
Cheers
Ian
NGC1333


FW: [VPAS] SpaceX Crew-1 Mission 7:27pm EST

Jeff Goldstein
 

FYI Live Feed Link

Jeff G.

 

From: VPAS@groups.io <VPAS@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bird Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 5:16 PM
To: VPAS@groups.io
Subject: [VPAS] SpaceX Crew-1 Mission 7:27pm EST

 

Launchgazers,

Little over two hours to launch. Four are scheduled to launch on a Falcon-9 out of Florida up the East Coast in the Crew Dragon vehicle. It's being streamed live now:
SpaceX.com
https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/11/15/spacex-crew-1-mission-status-center/

Clear Dark Skies,
Bird


Orion SkyView Pro for Sale

Richard Saunders
 

Hi folks, 

I'm upgrading to a higher-end mount and wanted to give my BBAA friends a first shot at my old mount before I list it on Craigslist/Offer-up.

I'm selling as a bundle my SkyView Pro mount (299.99 new on Orion's web site), a new/unused polar alignment scope (69.99) and a new/unopened Orion TrueTrack dual axis electronic drive kit that I never installed (169.99).   The new value on telescope.com is $538.98.  If one of you wants the bundle I'd like $375.

Best regards,

Scott Saunders

(7587) 621-6328

rsaun58043@...


Re: Answer to the crater puzzle

jimcoble2000
 

Of course

On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 8:15:47 AM EST, preciousmyprecious via groups.io <preciousmyprecious@...> wrote:


I was gonna say that

Carpe Noctem
Bill McLean


On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 08:33:40 PM EST, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


In order, oldest to youngest

ABC

A has its circular rim broken by B, so A must predate B.

Now B and C are a bit harder.

All the craters are circular.  B's ring, though, appears to be truncated or flattened by the circular rim of C. C is quite round appearing. So B must have existed before C.

Hence ABC.

Notice also the rim of A appears to be more worn and rounded whereas the rims of B and C are sharper and less worn looking. So A is certainly the oldest by that standard. 


Re: Answer to the crater puzzle

preciousmyprecious
 

I was gonna say that

Carpe Noctem
Bill McLean


On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 08:33:40 PM EST, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:


In order, oldest to youngest

ABC

A has its circular rim broken by B, so A must predate B.

Now B and C are a bit harder.

All the craters are circular.  B's ring, though, appears to be truncated or flattened by the circular rim of C. C is quite round appearing. So B must have existed before C.

Hence ABC.

Notice also the rim of A appears to be more worn and rounded whereas the rims of B and C are sharper and less worn looking. So A is certainly the oldest by that standard. 


Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

Jim Tallman
 

Cool. I left BAH Dec 2018 and took a government position to at Military Sealift Command.


On Nov 11, 2020 at 16:13, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

your old company Bose Allen

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 3:40:36 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


And what company is that? I traded sides two years ago I work for the government now


On Nov 11, 2020 at 15:08, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

unbeliever. BTW he works for the same company as you!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:42:59 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?






Re: Answer to the crater puzzle

Matthew Cook
 

WOO HOO!  Winner, winner chicken dinner!


On Nov 11, 2020, at 20:33, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

In order, oldest to youngest

ABC

A has its circular rim broken by B, so A must predate B.

Now B and C are a bit harder.

All the craters are circular.  B's ring, though, appears to be truncated or flattened by the circular rim of C. C is quite round appearing. So B must have existed before C.

Hence ABC.

Notice also the rim of A appears to be more worn and rounded whereas the rims of B and C are sharper and less worn looking. So A is certainly the oldest by that standard. 


Answer to the crater puzzle

jimcoble2000
 

In order, oldest to youngest

ABC

A has its circular rim broken by B, so A must predate B.

Now B and C are a bit harder.

All the craters are circular.  B's ring, though, appears to be truncated or flattened by the circular rim of C. C is quite round appearing. So B must have existed before C.

Hence ABC.

Notice also the rim of A appears to be more worn and rounded whereas the rims of B and C are sharper and less worn looking. So A is certainly the oldest by that standard. 


Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

jimcoble2000
 

your old company Bose Allen

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 3:40:36 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


And what company is that? I traded sides two years ago I work for the government now


On Nov 11, 2020 at 15:08, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

unbeliever. BTW he works for the same company as you!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:42:59 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?





Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

Jim Tallman
 

Actually I have no doubt that it will work just fine, I remember somebody helping me with my brand new 14in truss tube long time ago


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:43, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:

Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?





Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

Jim Tallman
 

And what company is that? I traded sides two years ago I work for the government now


On Nov 11, 2020 at 15:08, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

unbeliever. BTW he works for the same company as you!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:42:59 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?





Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

jimcoble2000
 

unbeliever. BTW he works for the same company as you!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:42:59 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?




Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

Jim Tallman
 

Now if only his scope of work afterwards :-)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 14:40, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?




Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

jimcoble2000
 

B and C take a bit of hard looking. I'll do another puzzle soon!

Oh BTW just served coffee to a new member as I was collimating his secondary mirror.  He said that was great coffee!

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 2:21:37 PM EST, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:


Ah ha fooled again!

On 11/11/2020 1:25 PM, Jim Tallman wrote:
Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?



Re: Good Morning Junior planetary Mars scientists. Your puzzle for today

jimcoble2000
 

Emoji

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 1:25:24 PM EST, Jim Tallman <jctallman@...> wrote:


Lol...I was wrong :)


On Nov 11, 2020 at 11:59, Ian Stewart <ian@...> wrote:

I'm with Jim ACB ... Cheers Ian

On 11/11/2020 8:40 AM, Jim Tallman wrote:
A C B





On Nov 11, 2020 at 08:38, jimcoble2000 via groups.io <jimcoble2000@...> wrote:

What is the order of creation oldest to youngest?


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