Re: More Nextion 3.5" tweaks to do
Sam Tedesco
I can get the resizing done...but, I'm not running a second nano. Ted, should I use your hmi file saved in the archive?
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Re: Who has AGC... Fun Facts
Scott McDonald
The AGC/AVC thing probably can’t be resolved at this point, but it would be unambiguous to me if folks just called their AVC/AGC IF-derived or audio derived.
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I’m not sure that would be a silly distinction as in one case you’re looking at an RF waveform that should be more representative of what was transmitted than one that’s at the tail end of an audio amp that’s done who knows what to it. And because I’m a dinosaur I want to believe a decent IF-derived system is better, though I have to admit the ubitx audio-derived stuff is pretty good. :) Scott Ka9p Make something good happen!
On Apr 20, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:
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Re: Who has AGC... Fun Facts
Your suggestion is good as I have just found one of my notable IEEE colleagues calling an AFC (automatic frequency control) circuit… an AGC circuit in a phase-locked loop. Otherwise, at this point a volume control pot could otherwise rightly be called AGC too if you include the human.
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The AGC/AVC thing probably can’t be resolved at this point, but it would be unambiguous to me if folks just called their AVC/AGC IF-derived or audio derived.
I’m not sure that would be a silly distinction as in one case you’re looking at an RF waveform that should be more representative of what was transmitted than one that’s at the tail end of an audio amp that’s done who knows what to it.
And because I’m a dinosaur I want to believe a decent IF-derived system is better, though I have to admit the ubitx audio-derived stuff is pretty good. :)
Scott Ka9p Make something good happen!
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Re: More Nextion 3.5" tweaks to do
Sam Tedesco
On the pspectrum page, tm0 and tmrDisplay populate the empty boxes that show up on full display. If you go thru the nextion code for those two, you'll see a few commands 'fill' and 'xstr' followed by comma delimeted sets of numbers. The main command structure for 'fill' is (x,y,w,h) and the fifth num is a color code. You'll have to run the 2.4" hmi in the editor and figure out the smaller horizontal boxes above and below the graph area. From there, you'll have to calculate your new dimensions based on the 480x320 pixels and subtract out your existing controls to get your new coordinates.
I have to look up the parameters for the 'xstr'...but, probably similar PITA, but not bad at all. I don't have the i2c setup on my machine so I'm running blind. It's all Nextion code.
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Re: uBitX PTT cycling
Hi all! I have just connected a bc645 4 pin electret mic to my ubitx and am getting a 5 tx/rx "chatter" on transmit on a dummy load, when press ptt. When i release, all is fine, rx is lit and i hear rcv audio. As a test, i enabled tx stop on the cec software, and pressed ptt. The tx indicator lights red for as long as i hold ptt, and then returns green as I unkey. This seems to indicate the ptt works as intended. After unselecting tx stop, the chatter returned. What am I missing? ...continuing to read thread...
73, Kelly K5AID
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Re: Who has AGC... Fun Facts
Jerry Gaffke
You don't have to be a dinosaur.
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IF derived is better because it comes on faster, it would take milliseconds to sense low frequency audio, and in that time the RF/IF stages will go into overload and distort. So we have audio derived AGC and RF derived AGC (that is where the signal level is detected), and while most radios then adjust the RF and/or IF gain accordingly, we could also adjust the AF gain. We might need 3 or 4 different acronyms. ;-)
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:06 AM, Scott McDonald wrote: And because I’m a dinosaur I want to believe a decent IF-derived system is better, though I have to admit the ubitx audio-derived stuff is pretty good. :)
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Re: More Nextion 3.5" tweaks to do
Joe Puma
Thanks Sam, I will give it another look. There is where i was adjusting the lines for vertical positioning I believe, Its hard to run a test to check if you properly stretched the graph unless you put the code in your Nextion. The simulation mode goes not give you data for the graph. I see Nextion editor has a generator, I was thinking that maybe its signal generator so you can simulate a signal for the graph.
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Unboxing #ubitx v5
#ubitx
Ron Stauffer
I created a short unboxing video of the uBitx v5 and I put it on my maker blog at hamradiomaker.com
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Re: Who has AGC... Fun Facts
Adrian Chadd
A decent IF system would be great if we did AM/FM, right? :) But it's OK how it is! -a
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Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Hi all! I have just connected a bc645 4 pin electret mic to my ubitx and am getting a 5 tx/rx "chatter" on transmit on a dummy load, when press ptt. When i release, all is fine, rx is lit and i hear rcv audio. As a test, i enabled tx stop on the cec software, and pressed ptt. The tx indicator lights red for as long as i hold ptt, and then returns green as I unkey. This seems to indicate the ptt works as intended. After unselecting tx stop, the chatter returned. What am I missing? ...continuing to read thread...
73, Kelly K5AID
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Re: Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Arv Evans
Possibly you have connected the audio lead to the PTT circuit and the rig is being keyed by audio. Possibly you are getting RF into the PTT line (long curly cords are problematic). _._
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:35 PM Kelly Mabry <kmabry2007@...> wrote: Hi all! I have just connected a bc645 4 pin electret mic to my ubitx and am getting a 5 tx/rx "chatter" on transmit on a dummy load, when press ptt. When i release, all is fine, rx is lit and i hear rcv audio. As a test, i enabled tx stop on the cec software, and pressed ptt. The tx indicator lights red for as long as i hold ptt, and then returns green as I unkey. This seems to indicate the ptt works as intended. After unselecting tx stop, the chatter returned. What am I missing? ...continuing to read thread...
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Re: More Nextion 3.5" tweaks to do
Sam,
"subtract existing controls"..... Please explain, as I'm willing to dive into it and try. I've attached my latest tweaks though I'm not at all ready to post it until I check it out in the field and get the graphs right. 73, Ted
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Audio AVC
Jim Tibbits
what with all the fond philosophing and theorizing and debating about avc vs.agc ..behold a REAL circuit ..
found this in an old magazine ... Modded it to look like this And included measurements ...something I have not seen on a lot of the others ... No phase shifters (feedback is DC) so I doubt it will oscillate too much ...works...keeps my ears calm AGC/AVC is a complex problem....Simple solutions to complex problems seldom yield positive results Jim
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Re: Remote Head?
Dexter N Muir
Great stuff, Ted! VGA cable? hadn't thought of that! :) in true AmateurLogic(.TV) fashion: Cheap-old-man compliant!
73 de ZL2DEX
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Re: Audio AVC
Jack Brabham - KZ5A
Looks like a simple solution to a complex problem.
73 Jack KZ5A
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Re: Remote Head?
Dexter N Muir
As an ex-workmate put it (in false Irish brogue): "Good t'inkin', O'Rourke ... yer foired!" :) 73 de ZL2DEX
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Re: Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Evan Hand
That seems to be a common problem depending on antenna and antenna connections. I had similar issues with an off center fed dipole and RF on the coax braid. Fixed it with snap on ferrites on the coax, others have used blocking baluns. Also a .o1 to .1 mf cap on the PTT line to ground has been listed as helping.
the above are my experiences and thoughts, YMV 73 Evan AC9TU
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Re: Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Here is what I am using as a wiring guide. Specifically the 4 pin connector is the black as audio, brown as ptt and red as ground. Coming from the front left audio board, J6. (Sunil kit)
Kelly K5AID
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Re: Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Hi Kelly,
Looks like you should have Pin1 on the new mic going to the red wire connection on the 3-pin board connector. Also you should have Pin2 on the new mic going to the black wire connection and Pin3 going to the brown wire connection (and no connection to Pin4). Is this the way you have it? 73, Mark
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Re: Ubitx tx/rx "chatter" (read old thread)
Not even close... doh... so embarrassing this is...
Will fix and retry... Kelly K5AID
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