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Re: #ubitx #ubitx-help Wow! the ubitx.net/ site is amazing! #ubitx #ubitx-help

IW4AJR Loris <lorisbollina@...>
 

Hi Evan,
Rather than thinking about how to weigh down a rig born for QRP and portable uses with Hyper-micro at 32 or 64 bit or with additional PC connections and "base station" uses like "digital" ones, wouldn't it be better to think about the rig's "hardware deficiencies"?
More than thinking about the "software" it seems to me that are missing some vital parts for a QRP & portable rig:
- a decent AGC that intervenes on the signal of the MF chain and not on the BF signal and on the attenuation of the antenna input;
- an output power attenuation command (a decrease is often required rather than increasing the power);
- to try a little to think of the rig for its native use and not for "base station" uses for which it was not born.
If really you want to act on the software and on the micro used, I would advise you (if you don't want to lose all the OMs who use the IDE & hardware Arduino as a hobby) to think about how to transport the Libraries and the Main on the new NANO EVERY or NANO 33 platform.
In portable use, the fewer complications the better! , an example ? the current LCD monitor is more than enough for QRP & portable uses, useless "spectrum analyzers" (mostly unreal) or a shapeless mass of information that makes the monitor unreadable only serve to waste time for those who use the radio as HAM and not as a computer engineer!
By the way, just to say that I am not one who does not like software, I have finished a modification to the original Ver. 6.1 to view the S level in reception and the Power level in transmission, without the need to change micro (1 or 2 KB are enough and there is more), just be used to using Microprocessors for what they were born, not as if they were main-frames!

73 de IW4AJR Loris


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 01:05 AM, Evan Hand wrote:
After thinking about the groups that I monitor in the prior email I believe that I should mention another that fits into the "starter" rig area:
https://groups.google.com/g/hermes-lite

This is not in Groups.io 

The reason for adding it to the list is that in my opinion, it is the current leader for me in the SDR transceiver arena for a new ham.   
Pros:
- It has all of the SDR functionality
- It can be bought as a complete kit
- With a PC provides all of the digital modes with free software addition
Cons:
- 5 watts out
- requires a PC

When you add in everything needed it is a close competition between the uBITX and the HL2 for price and features.

I have gotten really spoiled with the waterfall display on both the HL2 and my IC-7300.  That probably is the main reason for me siding with the HL2.

The above are just opinions, not really supported with detailed analysis.
Use as you see fit.
73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: No ssb out in ubitx v3 #ubitx #v3 #power

Nikhil B
 

Update.
The issue has been resolved. I gave it to other Ham. He did not find anything wrong he made modifications as in V5 and its working again.


Re: #ubitx #ubitx-help Wow! the ubitx.net/ site is amazing! #ubitx #ubitx-help

Evan Hand
 

After thinking about the groups that I monitor in the prior email I believe that I should mention another that fits into the "starter" rig area:
https://groups.google.com/g/hermes-lite

This is not in Groups.io 

The reason for adding it to the list is that in my opinion, it is the current leader for me in the SDR transceiver arena for a new ham.   
Pros:
- It has all of the SDR functionality
- It can be bought as a complete kit
- With a PC provides all of the digital modes with free software addition
Cons:
- 5 watts out
- requires a PC

When you add in everything needed it is a close competition between the uBITX and the HL2 for price and features.

I have gotten really spoiled with the waterfall display on both the HL2 and my IC-7300.  That probably is the main reason for me siding with the HL2.

The above are just opinions, not really supported with detailed analysis.
Use as you see fit.
73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Ardunio nano D7

Allard PE1NWL
 

Hi Ted,

For the TX-RX mod see https://github.com/amunters/bitx40/blob/master/TX-RX%20line%20wiring.png
Almost any standard NPN transistor will do the job. A 2n2222 should work fine!

73 Allard PE1NWL


Re: #ubitx #ubitx-help Wow! the ubitx.net/ site is amazing! #ubitx #ubitx-help

Evan Hand
 

Joel,
I had noted the lack of updates as well.  The only explanation that I can think of is that there is not a lot of work being done on the v6, and the older versions are no longer available.

There are two major works for the v6:
1 - Reed N's software update that fixes a number of issues with the stock software, yet retains the stock display.
2 - The replacement of the stock display with a Nextion display and then update all software to the last version from KD8CEC.

The spurs and harmonics were fixed in the v5.
Including the case as an option made the case market diminish
The only major issue not covered has been the low transmit power on SSB due to the Boafeng mic.
There would be interest in adding extra display functions, like a panadapter and maybe some DSP for CW, however, none of that has caught on, even with the material from KD8CEC.
The other area not to get much traffic is upgrading the Nano to allow for more functions.  This would be something that I would be interested in.  There is a Teensy upgrade available.  I have not seen any traffic on what has been done with it.

It seems like the major traffic has moved to QRP-Labs as the uSDX effort.

These are just my observations monitoring the Groups.io feeds for the three threads:
https://groups.io/g/BITX20/topics
https://groups.io/g/QRPLabs/topics
https://groups.io/g/ucx/topics

plus others.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: #ubitx #ubitx-help Wow! the ubitx.net/ site is amazing! #ubitx #ubitx-help

 

So what ever became of http://ubitx.net/ , the sites info is rather dated.

Joel
N6ALT


SolderSmoke Podcast #225

Bill Meara
 


Re: Ardunio nano D7

BevTed Stanier
 

Bingo

Semi QSK was off. Now have 5v out of D7 and very small power out when holding PTT down and keying.

Next I’ll look at getting a transistor in there that will turn on the PTT relay. TX-RX mod. Made a note in my manual.

Will try to find out if a 2n2222 will do the job.

Thanks.

 

Ted

 

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From: Allard PE1NWL
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:31 AM
To: BITX20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Ardunio nano D7

 

Hi Ted,

also please make sure that semiQSK in ON in the SETTINGS menu (cw params section).
If it is OFF, you need to manually keep PTT activated while keying CW.,
If it is ON, PTT will become activated (TX) automatically as soon as you start keying CW, and deactivated (RX) after you stop keying.

73 Allard PE1NWL

 


Re: Ardunio nano D7

Allard PE1NWL
 

Hi Ted,

also please make sure that semiQSK in ON in the SETTINGS menu (cw params section).
If it is OFF, you need to manually keep PTT activated while keying CW.,
If it is ON, PTT will become activated (TX) automatically as soon as you start keying CW, and deactivated (RX) after you stop keying.

73 Allard PE1NWL


Re: Ardunio nano D7

BevTed Stanier
 

Skip
Yes I did install that resistor.
Ted


On Sep 18, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Skip Davis via groups.io <skipnc9o@...> wrote:

Did you install the resistor in the key line?

Skip Davis, NC9O 

On Sep 18, 2020, at 18:43, BevTed Stanier <bevtedstan@...> wrote:

I have a BITX40 V3. I have installed the mods and updated the software to 1.29. Every thing works except CW TX. I,E, no power out.
The TX/RX mod does not operate by paralleling the PTT relay. The menu items all work OK. The CW tone works on key down.
I have checked D7 with the mod to the TR/TX mod disconnected and the D7 pin 16 does not change level.I.E. does not go high on key down.
I assume that the ARDUNIO NANO must be toast. 
Need advice on how to proceed. Is it possible to replace the NANO or do I need to replace the whole Radunio?
What is the best source for parts?
All advice would be appreciated.
73 VA7CTA   Ted 


Re: Connector

 

Hi,

The eBay listing was for a set of 5 connector pairs (m and f) with wires -- seems like a pretty good deal to me?  $1.40 for each set seems OK.

73,   Mark


Re: Ardunio nano D7

BevTed Stanier
 

Evan

 

Thanks for your reply. I do have a black wire going from A0 to C150 with a 10k resistor in series.

My thinking was that D7 was not activating the PTT which should activate the PTT Sense signal at A0. But looking at it again it looks like it’s the TX signal via the U3 to A0 is the PTT sense. I will check that there is a level change on pin 1 of U3 when the PTT relay is activated. Not sure what pin 1 of U3 is, just expected it was a 5v outlet. I’ll check what is happening on A0. Kind of like a chicken and egg situation maybe?

Thanks

Ted

 

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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 6:27 PM
To: BITX20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Ardunio nano D7

 

Ted,
In reading through Allard's modification on Github, I noted that you need to install a PTT Sense line to A0 of the Nano.  In the writeup it states that SSB will transmit without the sense line, CW will NOT work without that addition.  There are other features that require the sens line per the writeup.
https://github.com/amunters/bitx40/blob/master/operating-instructions.md

Before you throw out the Nano, verify that the sense line is working. 
73
Evan
AC9TU

 


Re: Ardunio nano D7

Evan Hand
 

Ted,
In reading through Allard's modification on Github, I noted that you need to install a PTT Sense line to A0 of the Nano.  In the writeup it states that SSB will transmit without the sense line, CW will NOT work without that addition.  There are other features that require the sens line per the writeup.
https://github.com/amunters/bitx40/blob/master/operating-instructions.md

Before you throw out the Nano, verify that the sense line is working. 
73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Ardunio nano D7

Skip Davis
 

Did you install the resistor in the key line?

Skip Davis, NC9O 

On Sep 18, 2020, at 18:43, BevTed Stanier <bevtedstan@...> wrote:

I have a BITX40 V3. I have installed the mods and updated the software to 1.29. Every thing works except CW TX. I,E, no power out.
The TX/RX mod does not operate by paralleling the PTT relay. The menu items all work OK. The CW tone works on key down.
I have checked D7 with the mod to the TR/TX mod disconnected and the D7 pin 16 does not change level.I.E. does not go high on key down.
I assume that the ARDUNIO NANO must be toast. 
Need advice on how to proceed. Is it possible to replace the NANO or do I need to replace the whole Radunio?
What is the best source for parts?
All advice would be appreciated.
73 VA7CTA   Ted 


Ardunio nano D7

BevTed Stanier
 

I have a BITX40 V3. I have installed the mods and updated the software to 1.29. Every thing works except CW TX. I,E, no power out.
The TX/RX mod does not operate by paralleling the PTT relay. The menu items all work OK. The CW tone works on key down.
I have checked D7 with the mod to the TR/TX mod disconnected and the D7 pin 16 does not change level.I.E. does not go high on key down.
I assume that the ARDUNIO NANO must be toast. 
Need advice on how to proceed. Is it possible to replace the NANO or do I need to replace the whole Radunio?
What is the best source for parts?
All advice would be appreciated.
73 VA7CTA   Ted 


Re: BITX V6 MAXIMUM INPUT REG

Jerry Gaffke
 

The IRF510's should have a better heat sink if you are asking for more power from them.
Tabs should never get uncomfortably hot to touch.
The silicon die in the IRF510's will be much hotter, as thermal conductivity from die to tab is not very good.

Many in this forum have successfully boosted power by increasing voltage to the finals.  
A few have destroyed their IRF510's.

Also, as more power goes out of the IRF510's, they demand more power from the previous stages.
This may result in distortion or spurious products.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:13 PM, IW4AJR Loris wrote:
Thank you Jerry, I didn't know the limit of the finals.


Re: BITX V6 MAXIMUM INPUT REG

IW4AJR Loris <lorisbollina@...>
 

Thank you Jerry, I didn't know the limit of the finals.


Re: BITX V6 MAXIMUM INPUT REG

Jerry Gaffke
 

You could separate out the 12v into the finals at L9, increase that voltage up to perhaps 20 volts
while keeping the rest of the rig at 12v. 

Jerry, KE7ER


On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 01:25 PM, IW4AJR Loris wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 08:40 PM, LAKSH MUTHU wrote:
Dear All,
     Good Day.
Kindly let me know what is the maximum input voltage that can be given to UBITX V6 without any modification.  Presently I am supplying 13.5 V to the rig. Current drawal is 1.5 amp at 40m and 1.2amp at 20m. Both values include idle current of 0.3 amp. This means current drawal in 40m and 20m in TX mode are 1.1amp and 0.9 amp respectively. I like to increase power input. So, what  safe maximum voltage can be supplied to UBITX V6.
 Regards
73
MUTHU
VU2LMN
Hello Muthu,
the maximum power voltage is defined by one component : LM386N-1 that have MAX 14Vcc power supply (look the data-sheet at : https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm386.pdf?HQS=TI-null-null-mousermode-df-pf-null-wwe&ts=1600459750453 be careful, at 15,2 Vcc the LM386N-1 renders the soul ... hi. hi. hi ... this from my experience in other projects !

if you want to increase the power even more, i don't know if other components have limitations (e.g. power mos of the final amplifier), for the LM386 you could try to replace it with the model LM386N-4 (Mouser part n.926-LM386N-4 ) which can sustain about 18/20 Vdc power supply, but pay close attention to the other components !!!! it's not nice to see SMD components smoke !!!
 
Greetings .. 73 de IW4AJR Loris


Re: BITX V6 MAXIMUM INPUT REG

IW4AJR Loris <lorisbollina@...>
 

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 08:40 PM, LAKSH MUTHU wrote:
Dear All,
     Good Day.
Kindly let me know what is the maximum input voltage that can be given to UBITX V6 without any modification.  Presently I am supplying 13.5 V to the rig. Current drawal is 1.5 amp at 40m and 1.2amp at 20m. Both values include idle current of 0.3 amp. This means current drawal in 40m and 20m in TX mode are 1.1amp and 0.9 amp respectively. I like to increase power input. So, what  safe maximum voltage can be supplied to UBITX V6.
 Regards
73
MUTHU
VU2LMN
Hello Muthu,
the maximum power voltage is defined by one component : LM386N-1 that have MAX 14Vcc power supply (look the data-sheet at : https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm386.pdf?HQS=TI-null-null-mousermode-df-pf-null-wwe&ts=1600459750453 be careful, at 15,2 Vcc the LM386N-1 renders the soul ... hi. hi. hi ... this from my experience in other projects !

if you want to increase the power even more, i don't know if other components have limitations (e.g. power mos of the final amplifier), for the LM386 you could try to replace it with the model LM386N-4 (Mouser part n.926-LM386N-4 ) which can sustain about 18/20 Vdc power supply, but pay close attention to the other components !!!! it's not nice to see SMD components smoke !!!
 
Greetings .. 73 de IW4AJR Loris


BITX V6 MAXIMUM INPUT REG

LAKSH MUTHU
 

Dear All,
     Good Day.
Kindly let me know what is the maximum input voltage that can be given to UBITX V6 without any modification.  Presently I am supplying 13.5 V to the rig. Current drawal is 1.5 amp at 40m and 1.2amp at 20m. Both values include idle current of 0.3 amp. This means current drawal in 40m and 20m in TX mode are 1.1amp and 0.9 amp respectively. I like to increase power input. So, what  safe maximum voltage can be supplied to UBITX V6.
 Regards
73
MUTHU
VU2LMN

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