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Re: Encoder problem

Mike aka KC2WVB <rb5363@...>
 

I see I did not indicate where my encoder came from. It was Digi Key. So once again.

 
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 5:29 PM R. Michael Boyer <rb5363@...> wrote:
I had the identical symptoms with my BitX after it was assembled. It was the encoder that was the issue. They are fragile so I ordered 5 and was very careful when I made the switch. It came to life immediately once the new one was installed.

I did not bother to read the other comments but I tested my original encoder with a DMM and set the meter on continuity test with one lead off the encoder going to ground which I think is the yellow wire and the other off, one at a time, the brown then black wire locations on the encoder. As you rotate the knob you should see: short, open, short, open..... On mine one pin out to ground worked as I indicated but the other was constant short.

Here is the replacement part that worked very well for me.


 
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:32 PM <n7nsd@...> wrote:
And yes, rotating only causes the display to flicker the last two freq digit from zero to fifty. After pressing the encoder and getting the change band option, turning causes no change. Same with the next press and then back to 40m where it won’t change freq. 

Re: Microscope - - new thread

M Garza <mgarza896@...>
 

Tom,
Thank you for this.  I just purchased a set of loupes and was disappointed that they really didnt help.  I now have a use for them.  Now to find a lamp stand...

Thanks again,

Marco - KG5PRT

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 4:23 PM T Williams via Groups.Io <n41w124=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Re: #52380 "Seems to me you could DIY something better than those
$60 Chinese special microscopes ... "

Consider a SolderScope. (See QRP Quarterly, Apr. 2018.) (www.qrparci.org
Its a DIY binocular stereo inspection microscope for about $50.

Get a pair of 3.5X - 420mm dental magnifying loupes for $30 or so from Ebay/
Amazon.  Add +2 reading glasses in front of the loupes. (Dollar store readers
work OK.) Mount the loupes on a desk lamp stand.

I built the first SolderScope almost 2 years ago and use it daily while the
AmScope SE-400 sits unused. Advantages of the SolderScope are low cost, wide
field, 7 inch working distance and I can keep my eyeglasses on.

Web page at http://www.qsl.net/k9ac/solderScope.html has full details.

73,

Tom Williams,  K9AC

Re: Encoder problem

Mike aka KC2WVB <rb5363@...>
 

I had the identical symptoms with my BitX after it was assembled. It was the encoder that was the issue. They are fragile so I ordered 5 and was very careful when I made the switch. It came to life immediately once the new one was installed.

I did not bother to read the other comments but I tested my original encoder with a DMM and set the meter on continuity test with one lead off the encoder going to ground which I think is the yellow wire and the other off, one at a time, the brown then black wire locations on the encoder. As you rotate the knob you should see: short, open, short, open..... On mine one pin out to ground worked as I indicated but the other was constant short.

Here is the replacement part that worked very well for me.


 
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Your salesorder number is 54975240.
 
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PEC11R-4020F-S0012-ND
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:32 PM <n7nsd@...> wrote:
And yes, rotating only causes the display to flicker the last two freq digit from zero to fifty. After pressing the encoder and getting the change band option, turning causes no change. Same with the next press and then back to 40m where it won’t change freq. 

Re: Microscope - - new thread

T Williams
 

Re: #52380 "Seems to me you could DIY something better than those
$60 Chinese special microscopes ... "

Consider a SolderScope. (See QRP Quarterly, Apr. 2018.) (www.qrparci.org) 
Its a DIY binocular stereo inspection microscope for about $50.

Get a pair of 3.5X - 420mm dental magnifying loupes for $30 or so from Ebay/
Amazon.  Add +2 reading glasses in front of the loupes. (Dollar store readers
work OK.) Mount the loupes on a desk lamp stand.

I built the first SolderScope almost 2 years ago and use it daily while the
AmScope SE-400 sits unused. Advantages of the SolderScope are low cost, wide
field, 7 inch working distance and I can keep my eyeglasses on.

Web page at http://www.qsl.net/k9ac/solderScope.html has full details.

73,

Tom Williams,  K9AC

Re: Encoder problem

Peter Parker
 

I had this problem when trying different software versions. 

I had success by uploading it again to the Arduino. 

Re: Encoder problem

Norm. N7NSD
 

And yes, rotating only causes the display to flicker the last two freq digit from zero to fifty. After pressing the encoder and getting the change band option, turning causes no change. Same with the next press and then back to 40m where it won’t change freq. 

Re: Encoder problem

Norm. N7NSD
 

It only varies 50hz. It has never worked. It was suggested that I install the denouncing components to solve the problem. I have done so but no change. 

Re: I'm really stuck! No Xmit Pwr. #ubitx

Latham, Chip
 

Thank you! to everyone who pitched in to HELP.
Chip

RF Situation Resolved.

Latham, Chip
 

Howard (WB2VXW) called this morning and we went thru quite a bit of testing and things were not added up, until I mentioned that I had replaced the heatsink, made sure it was isolated from ground but forgot the FETs needed to be isolated from each other as well.
Thanks Howard, that was a stupid mistake on my part. I own it!
Farhan forgive me for suggesting there might have been a possibility of rushing the board out, getting ready for the release of V4.0
Chip
N5FJK

Re: I'm really stuck! No Xmit Pwr. #ubitx

Latham, Chip
 



Howard Many Thanks,

This Group is an awesome resource.

Re: uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

Arv Evans
 

Richard

It was not you.  In message 52499 someone hijacked your topic and caused all the flames.
Your original post got lost somewhere in the rants and counter-rants.
Things have died down a bit now so maybe someone can help you with the problem.

Arv
_._


On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:36 PM Richard <richard@...> wrote:
Bob Bennett -

Unless I am reading this wrong - I am the original poster and I didn't smear a thing, so are you addressing this to someone else?  If not, it's clear you didn't read the post -  I asked 2 questions regarding my first build, and a bunch of people decided my post would be a nice place to turn into keyboard warriors, that being said.

Can anyone explain to me the method for calibrating a V4, about 58 comments back I listed the difference in the code used in the V4 Firmware, and it is clearly different?

--
Richard
KC7DDW
--
Richard
KC7DDW

Re: uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

Arv Evans
 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Richard wrote:
Richard   KC7DDW
It was not your message that started the flame burst.  In message 52499 another member hijacked your
topic and inserted the objectionable comments.  From that point on it seems that your request for help
just got lost in the rants and counter-rants. 

Hopefully now that things have quieted down a bit someone can answer your query and help with the
problem.

Arv  K7HKL
_._

Re: Thoughts on a Ham Bus

Tim Gorman
 

Jerry,

I think you missed the point. After WWII huge numbers of these
connectors were available because they were made for military use and
it was easy for commercial and private interests to obtain them and use
them. The amateur community is going to have a difficult time
generating a standard that sees widespread acceptance with lots of
availability purely because of limited economic impact.

Any future standard is going to have to also be made in huge numbers as
well. Otherwise it will never become a "standard". The only entity
today that can generate that kind of usage of a standard *will* be
military based.

The only other entity that had that kind of power for setting a
standard was the old Bell System. Look at the RJ-8 and RJ-45 standards
or even the N-connector. They were driven by usage in the telephone
systems. But the Bell System no longer exists and is no longer capable
of driving standards.

I'm not sure what RF connectors you are speaking of but if you go to
the Amphenol site even the SMC connector is based on a mil-spec
standard.

The phono connector will work at RF but it has many problems. It is not
a positive mechanical connection and is subject to corrosion affects.

Again, standards become standards because of a lot of use in a lot of
places. You would be better off looking for a standard bus arrangement
by looking at electronic equipment in the military. Those standards see
a lot of usage, they last for a long time, and there are typically
multiple suppliers. I know some of that equipment used plug-in cards
with a backplane.

tim ab0wr



On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:32:48 -0700
"Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io" <jgaffke=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Going from "the PL259 somehow got established as a standard in the
ham world 80 years ago" to "any bus standard that succeeds will
likely have originated in some military gear" is quite a leap.
 Nothing much is mil-spec about the uBitx.

There's better choices than the PL259 and/or the BNC for coax these
days. But they got established, and hams are a conservative lot.
For HF QRP , some would argue that an RCA audio connector is a better
choice (I would).

Somewhat related, several in the forum have reported that the BNC
jack supplied with the kit has been machined with less than ideal
tolerances.  If you aren't seeing any power out to your dummy load,
be sure to check that the center pin of your BNC is reliably making
contact, and perhaps spend a few bucks on a better jack.  Something
like Mouser 530-B1094. 

Jerry, KE7ER

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:40 am, Tim Gorman wrote:


I think you'll find the so239/pl259 combination as well as the bnc
were first standardized by the military and then the commercial
industry picked them up.

Unless you can find a bus standard that has been adopted by the
military first you probably aren't going to find wide acceptance.

Re: uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

Richard
 

Bob Bennett -

Unless I am reading this wrong - I am the original poster and I didn't smear a thing, so are you addressing this to someone else?  If not, it's clear you didn't read the post -  I asked 2 questions regarding my first build, and a bunch of people decided my post would be a nice place to turn into keyboard warriors, that being said.

Can anyone explain to me the method for calibrating a V4, about 58 comments back I listed the difference in the code used in the V4 Firmware, and it is clearly different?

--
Richard
KC7DDW

Re: uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

Jerry Gaffke
 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:36 am, Andy V. Borisenko wrote:
I can load firmware. now I have CEC version 1.080. it is more convenient than the factory one. but in uBitx the manipulation for CW is done on the relay. when working on a vertical key, the first sign is shortened due to the switching time of the relay. just tried it. This is not good. I do not know, maybe you can use PTT, but I have not done it yet. it's nearly midnight, tomorrow at work. I'm sleeping :)
 

 When you first press the key, the Raduino senses this and turns on the relays to switch from 
receive to transmit.  The Si5351 is written to with the operating freq in clk2.
The other two Si5351 clocks are shut down.  This should all happen within 5 milliseconds or so,
where a single dot at 40 wpm is 33 milliseconds wide.  So plenty responsive.

I'm not sure what the CEC firmware is doing, but it may be adding a delay to avoid
a loud pop in the received audio when switching from receive to transmit.
If present, perhaps such a delay is no longer needed, if the pop has been sufficiently
reduced with the v4 board, or if Kees' pop fix kit has been applied to the radio.  
 
As I say, this is primarily an SSB radio.
But many are successfully using it for CW.

Jerry

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:36 am, Andy V. Borisenko wrote:
I can load firmware. now I have CEC version 1.080. it is more convenient than the factory one. but in uBitx the manipulation for CW is done on the relay. when working on a vertical key, the first sign is shortened due to the switching time of the relay. just tried it. This is not good. I do not know, maybe you can use PTT, but I have not done it yet. it's nearly midnight, tomorrow at work. I'm sleeping :)

Re: Oscilloscope on sale

Ralph Mowery
 

I have had one like that for about 2 years.  It works fine for  the price.

ku4pt


On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
All:

Some here were looking for a good scope at a reasonable price. The Hantek 200MHz, 2 channel is on sale for $271.20. I have this scope an like it a lot.


Jack, W8TEE
_._,_.

Re: Oscilloscope on sale

Roy Appleton
 

That is a good price! I bought that model on sale from them in April for $299! Love it!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 1:20 PM Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
All:

Some here were looking for a good scope at a reasonable price. The Hantek 200MHz, 2 channel is on sale for $271.20. I have this scope an like it a lot.


Jack, W8TEE

Re: Encoder problem

Howard Fidel
 

TO clarify, it changes only by 50 Hz, or in 50 Hz steps only?
Rotating without pushing the button changes nothing?
Is this a first time build issue, or it was working and failed issue?


On 6/21/2018 2:10 PM, n7nsd@... wrote:
My encoder won’t change frequency except by 50hz. Pressing the encoder cycles from 40m on the bottom line to adding “band select?” on the top and then “press to confirm” and then back to the first screen. Rotating the encoder doesn’t cause any changes. I have added denouncing resistors and caps with no improvement. Is there a way to test the encoder or should I simply replace it?  Any ideas welcome. 
73


Re: Encoder problem

Jack, W8TEE
 

If you're comfortable with coding for the Nano, look in the examples for the encoder library, pick one, compile/upload it to the Nano and see if it works. You may have to reassign the pin numbers from the example. As I recall, Farhan uses A0 and A1 for the clock and data and A2 for the switch. Those would likely have to be changed in the examples.

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, June 21, 2018, 2:10:59 PM EDT, n7nsd@... <n7nsd@...> wrote:


My encoder won’t change frequency except by 50hz. Pressing the encoder cycles from 40m on the bottom line to adding “band select?” on the top and then “press to confirm” and then back to the first screen. Rotating the encoder doesn’t cause any changes. I have added denouncing resistors and caps with no improvement. Is there a way to test the encoder or should I simply replace it?  Any ideas welcome. 
73

Re: uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

Andy V. Borisenko
 

I can load firmware. now I have CEC version 1.080. it is more convenient than the factory one. but in uBitx the manipulation for CW is done on the relay. when working on a vertical key, the first sign is shortened due to the switching time of the relay. just tried it. This is not good. I do not know, maybe you can use PTT, but I have not done it yet. it's nearly midnight, tomorrow at work. I'm sleeping :)