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opening message

cits4fun <djrussel@...>
 

Byron and Matt,

Here it is, open for business

members may elect to get messages in one of 3 manners--
1) individual messages
2) a daily digest of up to 25 messages (if there are more than 25
messages in one day there will be 2 digests delivered
3) No messages delivered, must go to group page to pick up messages.

I can come up with some guidelines for good behavior on line, like no
flaming, etc.

David


random message

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

Hi;

This is just to see if messages are going in. Please reply if you are
reading this soi know I'm not alone.

Thanks,
David


Lucas Electric

cits4fun <djrussel@...>
 

Hi;

Here is a site that should be especially enjoyable for our british car
owning friends:
http://home.netcom.com/~krk/lotus/humor/lucasjokes.html

For the rest of us it will illuminate and otherwise dark subject.

Davud


Re: random message

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Got it...

Byron

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] random message


Hi;

This is just to see if messages are going in. Please reply if you are
reading this soi know I'm not alone.

Thanks,
David



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Welcome

cits4fun <djrussel@...>
 

Matt,

Welcome to the putative, or is it tentative, Arcane mail list. If we
get a few more people on the list it should be a useful tool.

See you on Sunday,

David

ps do you know any good immigration lawyers? in your area or Concord
would be best. The 21 year old daughter of a Friend of Luba's is in
Concord. She is from Israel and is living with/caring for her
grandparents while she goes to school. her application for a student
visa was denied, unlike Atta's and the other hijacker. We want to
help her for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that we
sponsored her visit.
Thanks.


System down

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

To ALL Arcane list members,

the following is a FYI.
it should not affect us much if we are giving people the information
about this list on Sunday. Also, the traffic is so low compared to
other lists -- i've seen 100 messages in one day on one list which made
me VERY glad I'd taken it in the digest form and actually only got 4
Digests each with 25 messages.

See you on Sunday

ps, ran into an Isetta owner in SJ named Tom Lighthouse and am trying to
get him to attend, although he isn't about to drive the little one to
SF.

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photos posted

cits4fun <djrussel@...>
 

Hi guys,

i just posted some pix from the business meeting in the photo section:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst

You can all add business meeting pix of your own to this album. it
turns out that I took very few pix with the digital camera (it is very
low res.) and the few that were shot on film are still in the camera.

Please feel free to encourage others to join the email list.
Hopefully Sina will add a link for this in the Arcane page. As a
Netscape user, some of the pages are fairly foobahed for me, so I
don't know if she has already done it.

In the meantime you might enjoy the following links
http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

David


Re: photos posted

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Cool David. Will you also post the pics from your non-dig camera? I'm
hoping to grab some to put in the next newsletter. Would love to put in a
pic of the either (1) some sort of group shot of all the folks in attendance
or (2) a view of the garage packed with cars!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "cits4fun" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:03 AM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] photos posted


Hi guys,

i just posted some pix from the business meeting in the photo section:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst

You can all add business meeting pix of your own to this album. it
turns out that I took very few pix with the digital camera (it is very
low res.) and the few that were shot on film are still in the camera.

Please feel free to encourage others to join the email list.
Hopefully Sina will add a link for this in the Arcane page. As a
Netscape user, some of the pages are fairly foobahed for me, so I
don't know if she has already done it.

In the meantime you might enjoy the following links
http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

David



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Re: photos posted

djrussel@...
 

Byron,

I'm afraid that I didn't do good as far as picture taking. spent a little more time with the video camera, but have no way to get video into the computer. I wasn't planning on developing the film now, but will look into it. I don't think that I took more than 2 or 4 shots on film, and they could be similar to the digital ones, but i'll post anything there is.

Don't know why i didn't take more digital shots as they are 1) FREE and 2) fairly immediate [my cheapo camera came with the computer and doesn't have a built in screen, so until it is connected with the computer I have no idea how good or bad the pix may be. it doesn't take good pics and has trouble in low light, inside lighting, close ups, and more.

ANYBODY who took pics can add them to the album, but first they must join the list. You can browbeat anyone you recall wielding a camera. Was Sina's friend Drew taking any "snaps" as well as the "real" pics?

have a good weekend
David

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:05:37 -0800 Byron Brill <B_Brill@...> wrote:




Cool David. Will you also post the pics from your non-dig camera? I'm
hoping to grab some to put in the next newsletter. Would love to put in a
pic of the either (1) some sort of group shot of all the folks in attendance
or (2) a view of the garage packed with cars!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "cits4fun" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:03 AM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] photos posted


Hi guys,

i just posted some pix from the business meeting in the photo section:
<a href="http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst">http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst</a>

You can all add business meeting pix of your own to this album. it
turns out that I took very few pix with the digital camera (it is very
low res.) and the few that were shot on film are still in the camera.

Please feel free to encourage others to join the email list.
Hopefully Sina will add a link for this in the Arcane page. As a
Netscape user, some of the pages are fairly foobahed for me, so I
don't know if she has already done it.

In the meantime you might enjoy the following links
<a href="http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf">http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf</a>
<a href="http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/">http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/</a>

David



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Re: photos posted

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Thanks for your help, David. Not sure what all Sina's pal, Drew, took, but
I'll check. Unfortunately, I haven't heard back from anyone else who may
have taken pictures, so we may not have a lot to choose from, but we'll see.
I had a camera with me, but never drew and shot. Seems like I arrived at
the garage, then looked up and it was over. For me, that meeting went by
faster than any other...

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Arcane_autos] photos posted


Byron,

I'm afraid that I didn't do good as far as picture taking. spent a little
more time with the video camera, but have no way to get video into the
computer. I wasn't planning on developing the film now, but will look into
it. I don't think that I took more than 2 or 4 shots on film, and they
could be similar to the digital ones, but i'll post anything there is.

Don't know why i didn't take more digital shots as they are 1) FREE and 2)
fairly immediate [my cheapo camera came with the computer and doesn't have a
built in screen, so until it is connected with the computer I have no idea
how good or bad the pix may be. it doesn't take good pics and has trouble
in low light, inside lighting, close ups, and more.

ANYBODY who took pics can add them to the album, but first they must join
the list. You can browbeat anyone you recall wielding a camera. Was Sina's
friend Drew taking any "snaps" as well as the "real" pics?

have a good weekend
David

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:05:37 -0800 Byron Brill
<B_Brill@...> wrote:




Cool David. Will you also post the pics from your non-dig camera? I'm
hoping to grab some to put in the next newsletter. Would love to put in a
pic of the either (1) some sort of group shot of all the folks in
attendance
or (2) a view of the garage packed with cars!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "cits4fun" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:03 AM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] photos posted


Hi guys,

i just posted some pix from the business meeting in the photo section:
<a
href="http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst">http://photos.g
roups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/lst</a>

You can all add business meeting pix of your own to this album. it
turns out that I took very few pix with the digital camera (it is very
low res.) and the few that were shot on film are still in the camera.

Please feel free to encourage others to join the email list.
Hopefully Sina will add a link for this in the Arcane page. As a
Netscape user, some of the pages are fairly foobahed for me, so I
don't know if she has already done it.

In the meantime you might enjoy the following links
<a
href="http://www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf">http://www.sp
arklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf</a>
<a
href="http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/">http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/
</a>

David



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Arcane Event possibility

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

Hey guys,

Someone just asked me about a regular get together somewhere in the
Fremont area and it faintly rings a bell, but perhaps you know more
about it.

Apparently, on some regular schedule, people take their rides to a 50's
style diner in the Fremont area and mingle, compare cars, etc., a real
American Graffiti thing (I never did see this movie).

Maybe we could get some Arcaner's together for one of these evenings.
I realize that Night Time events may not work for many of our cars, but
what the heck, for those that can and do make it, there should be plenty
of fun.

Any thoughts?

David

ps.
we could use some more list members to make this thing worthwhile.


Re: Arcane Event possibility

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Hey folks,

While evening events can sometimes be a little dicey, what with three
teenagers & all, my family would sure be game for this sort of thing if it
happens on an evening that works for us - I'm all for it. If anyone knows
more, please post the info!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russel" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Hey guys,

Someone just asked me about a regular get together somewhere in the
Fremont area and it faintly rings a bell, but perhaps you know more
about it.

Apparently, on some regular schedule, people take their rides to a 50's
style diner in the Fremont area and mingle, compare cars, etc., a real
American Graffiti thing (I never did see this movie).

Maybe we could get some Arcaner's together for one of these evenings.
I realize that Night Time events may not work for many of our cars, but
what the heck, for those that can and do make it, there should be plenty
of fun.

Any thoughts?

David

ps.
we could use some more list members to make this thing worthwhile.



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Re: Arcane Event possibility

djrussel@...
 

Byron,

This site had some information, but so far nothing as close as Fremont. maybe I have the city wrong. http://www.rocknrod.com/rnrgraf1.htm

Will need to explore some Hot rod connections and see if we can turn up something close enough for more members to be willing to risk a night time foray.
David

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:24:29 -0800 Byron Brill <B_Brill@...> wrote:




Hey folks,

While evening events can sometimes be a little dicey, what with three
teenagers & all, my family would sure be game for this sort of thing if it
happens on an evening that works for us - I'm all for it. If anyone knows
more, please post the info!

Byron


Re: Arcane Event possibility

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Hi David,

I'll check with my pal and former Arcaner, Tom Dejohn, to see what he can
tell us about local cruise ins. Tom just moved to Colorado, but I think
used to attend some of these in the San Jose area with his '32 Ford rod.
Tom, do you know of any regular cruise ins in the Peninsula/South Bay/lower
East Bay regions (see previous correspondence on the subject below)? BTW
David, I'll put more info about the Arcane Yahoo Group in the next
newsletter. Tom, if you would like to join the group, the home page for the
list is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/ and with some luck you
will get a message from Yahoo inviting you to join. If not try to go to
this page and it should walk you through the sign up procedure.

Best,
Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Byron,

This site had some information, but so far nothing as close as Fremont.
maybe I have the city wrong. http://www.rocknrod.com/rnrgraf1.htm

Will need to explore some Hot rod connections and see if we can turn up
something close enough for more members to be willing to risk a night time
foray.
David


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:24:29 -0800 Byron Brill
<B_Brill@...> wrote:




Hey folks,

While evening events can sometimes be a little dicey, what with three
teenagers & all, my family would sure be game for this sort of thing if it
happens on an evening that works for us - I'm all for it. If anyone knows
more, please post the info!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russel" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Hey guys,

Someone just asked me about a regular get together somewhere in the
Fremont area and it faintly rings a bell, but perhaps you know more
about it.

Apparently, on some regular schedule, people take their rides to a 50's
style diner in the Fremont area and mingle, compare cars, etc., a real
American Graffiti thing (I never did see this movie).

Maybe we could get some Arcaner's together for one of these evenings.
I realize that Night Time events may not work for many of our cars, but
what the heck, for those that can and do make it, there should be plenty
of fun.

Any thoughts?

David


Fw: Re: Arcane Event possibility

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom DeJohn" <tdejohn@...>
To: <B_Brill@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


By,
I used to go to the Happy Dayz Diner at Bascom and Union on Thursday
nights.
Check their web-site at http://www.happydayzdiner.com
Click on the Special Events button, you'll notice a familiar car! They
also
have a Milpitas location.
There is also an event at Houlihan's in San Carlos, just off 101,
info:(650)368-8212, I think the first Friday of the month.
I used to get together with a few guys at the Burger Barn at Forest and
Winchester on Tuesday nights. One night last summer the guy that owns the
Peel showed up! He lives just down the street. He's got it nicely
restored,
repainted red and reupholstered (what little there is) in tan. Maybe you
could meet up with him there. The guy to talk to there is Doug Baldanzi he
has a black primer '32 roadster hiboy. He's real friendly and everyone
knows
him. Tell him I said hi. It's a real friendly group. They call themselves
the Outcasts.

T
From: "Byron Brill" <B_Brill@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
CC: "Tom Dejohn" <tdejohn@...>
Subject: Re: Re: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:16:48 -0800

Hi David,

I'll check with my pal and former Arcaner, Tom Dejohn, to see what he can
tell us about local cruise ins. Tom just moved to Colorado, but I think
used to attend some of these in the San Jose area with his '32 Ford rod.
Tom, do you know of any regular cruise ins in the Peninsula/South
Bay/lower
East Bay regions (see previous correspondence on the subject below)?
BTW
David, I'll put more info about the Arcane Yahoo Group in the next
newsletter. Tom, if you would like to join the group, the home page for
the
list is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arcane_autos/ and with some luck
you
will get a message from Yahoo inviting you to join. If not try to go to
this page and it should walk you through the sign up procedure.

Best,
Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Byron,

This site had some information, but so far nothing as close as
Fremont.
maybe I have the city wrong. http://www.rocknrod.com/rnrgraf1.htm

Will need to explore some Hot rod connections and see if we can turn
up
something close enough for more members to be willing to risk a night
time
foray.
David


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:24:29 -0800 Byron Brill
<B_Brill@...> wrote:




Hey folks,

While evening events can sometimes be a little dicey, what with three
teenagers & all, my family would sure be game for this sort of thing
if
it
happens on an evening that works for us - I'm all for it. If anyone
knows
more, please post the info!

Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russel" <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Hey guys,

Someone just asked me about a regular get together somewhere in the
Fremont area and it faintly rings a bell, but perhaps you know more
about it.

Apparently, on some regular schedule, people take their rides to a 50's
style diner in the Fremont area and mingle, compare cars, etc., a real
American Graffiti thing (I never did see this movie).

Maybe we could get some Arcaner's together for one of these evenings.
I realize that Night Time events may not work for many of our cars, but
what the heck, for those that can and do make it, there should be plenty
of fun.

Any thoughts?

David


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Re: Arcane Event possibility

djrussel@...
 

Byron,

VERY Cool and promising. thanks for tracking it down. San Carlos would be pretty central for our membership.

here is where this mail list could really shine. One person lets the list know of their plans to go to one of these places on and individual basis, and others have the opportunity to show up. No prior planning needed.

As most of the people here are likely to be hot rodders it would probably be nice to try to get at least one Traction Avant there whenever possible due to its '34 styling and similarity to many hot rods. Clark Rogers (San Jose) and Peter Windhorst (Palo Alto) are 2 other local TA owners, although they aren't Arcane members.

How goes the T-shirt design search?

David


Re: Arcane Event possibility

Byron Brill <B_Brill@...>
 

Hey,

Nothing on T-shirts yet, but expect to see something next week. W/regard to
cruise ins, I'll put out a message to everyone next week, both my e-mail
list & the Yahoo group. Will also remind everyone on the e-mail list to
join the yahoo group. I'm on my way out the door, so I'll talk to you next
week. Perhaps you could pass it along to Clark & Peter...

Best,
Byron

----- Original Message -----
From: <djrussel@...>
To: <Arcane_autos@...>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Arcane_autos] Arcane Event possibility


Byron,

VERY Cool and promising. thanks for tracking it down. San Carlos would
be pretty central for our membership.

here is where this mail list could really shine. One person lets the list
know of their plans to go to one of these places on and individual basis,
and others have the opportunity to show up. No prior planning needed.

As most of the people here are likely to be hot rodders it would probably
be nice to try to get at least one Traction Avant there whenever possible
due to its '34 styling and similarity to many hot rods. Clark Rogers (San
Jose) and Peter Windhorst (Palo Alto) are 2 other local TA owners, although
they aren't Arcane members.

How goes the T-shirt design search?

David


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Hot rod events we might crash

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

Hi:

see below where I just pulled some local or semi-local events off of a
Hot-Rod site. We may not have any hot rods with stroked, bored, or
blown engines, but I'll bet that we could blow a few minds with our
arcane cars!

David

San Carlos, CA 1st Wednesday of every month (no time of
day provided but it sounds like a car wash & wax event which should be
daytime)
A Fun Park & Shine is held at Houlihan's at San Carlos Airport.
April through September. Call: 650-368-8212
mailto:ltstlk6@...

San Jose, California Tuesday Nights All Year Round
Burger Barn Corner of Forest Ave. & Winchester Blvd. from 5:00
to 8:30 pm

San Jose, California: http://www.happydayzdiner.com/Vintage.html


April 6, 2002 Fresno, CA
Hot Rods of Fresno presents 2nd Annual Tower
Classic Car Show
Pre '73 Registration 8am-10am. Car show 10am-6pm.
Pre-entry $20.
Day of Show $25.
Call: Charlotte McFerrin (559) 299-1540 or
Garland Sharp (559) 434-1313
EMAIL for entry forms: charvet1@...



APRIL 19-21, 2002 Oakland, CA
2nd Annual Oakland Show (2nd Annual? I went to a show at the
Oakland Museum about 3 or so years ago, possibly with a Citroën club
event. it was pretty cool.)
209 744-8090 www.oaklandrodandcustomshow.com

APRIL 28, 2002 Half Moon Bay, CA
12 Annual pacific Coast Dream Machines Show
650 726-2328 www.miramarevents.com

May 4, 2002 S. San Francisco, CA
Ron Covell’s Beginning Steel Workshop 800 747-4631 or 831
768-0705
(Don't know about this one; maybe it is to teach people how to work
sheet metal to repair or replace body parts???)


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Battery sizes

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

Hi:

Here is a nice table of Battery sizes:
http://www.rtpnet.org/~teaa/bcigroup.html

Could come in handy


Random Car Event

David Russel <djrussel@...>
 

Dear All,

an event is being planned for Sunday May 19th, and ALL funny cars,
Citron, Arcane, etc. are welcome.

If possible it can and should be put in the newsletter and even the Web
Site if anyone is active enough. (Byron, can you forward this to
whomever should get it?)

Date: Sunday, May 19, 2002
Time: 11:30 am till Noon gathering and car parking time 1 PM wine
tasting
Cost: $3/person at the door
Facilities: picnic tables, with table cloths, etc
Event go-to person: Jack Ross (510) 530 0754 cell (408) 425 9889
website: www.retzlaffwinery.com

jack is a Citron person with 1 TA and 2 DS's for commuting. he is a
great guy and has done the set up on this. It is totally open
admission. I have yet to visit the web site of the winery.

Sorry to miss Beemer's tomorrow, but that is what can happen.

David