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Christopher Freitas
 


Re: Brake rotor truing / resurface

Ken Nelson
 

I took my DS rotors to s surface grinding shop to clean them up but when I checked runout I had to make up .002 inch stainless steel shim stock shims to minimize runout - but haven’t yet tested results

Ken

On Feb 18, 2022, at 7:09 PM, Scott Davis <evlist@...> wrote:

A brake resurfacing machine is the proper tool to resurface rotors. They are more expensive than a typical lathe on the used market.

Part of the tool is the operator and their training. Megabuck machine with a don't-care operator can give poor results.

I bought a very old brake lathe years ago out of Long Beach. Every part of it was beat up, not a straight adapter in the pile, but the previous owner would spend 30-45min shimming with card stock to get drums/rotors to run true before taking a cut. His work was well regarded, and I can confirm that it wasn't the tool making his work look good.

Scott


At 05:14 PM 2/18/2022, you wrote:
I had some Triumph Stag rotors resurfaced at O Reilly years back. I now have them on my car but there is excessive run-out. I can buy new out of UK, but they are of poor quality.
Is there a place in San Jose who can true them? I'm assuming they need to go on a lathe and not some mickey mouse brake resurface machine.
I will check for min. thickness

Sujit





Re: Brake rotor truing / resurface

Scott Davis
 

A brake resurfacing machine is the proper tool to resurface rotors. They are more expensive than a typical lathe on the used market.

Part of the tool is the operator and their training. Megabuck machine with a don't-care operator can give poor results.

I bought a very old brake lathe years ago out of Long Beach. Every part of it was beat up, not a straight adapter in the pile, but the previous owner would spend 30-45min shimming with card stock to get drums/rotors to run true before taking a cut. His work was well regarded, and I can confirm that it wasn't the tool making his work look good.

Scott

At 05:14 PM 2/18/2022, you wrote:
I had some Triumph Stag rotors resurfaced at O Reilly years back. I now have them on my car but there is excessive run-out. I can buy new out of UK, but they are of poor quality.
Is there a place in San Jose who can true them? I'm assuming they need to go on a lathe and not some mickey mouse brake resurface machine.
I will check for min. thickness

Sujit


Re: Brake rotor truing / resurface

Fred Cisin
 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, sujit roy via groups.io wrote:
I had some Triumph Stag rotors resurfaced at O Reilly years back. I now have them on my car but there is excessive run-out. I can buy new out of UK, but they are of poor quality.
Is there a place in San Jose who can true them? I'm assuming they need to go on a lathe and not some mickey mouse brake resurface machine.
I will check for min. thickness
Did O'Reilly's also press in the bearings?

When a "resurfaced" rotor has excessive runout, one of the things to check is whether it is truly turning on its axis.
With a dial indicator, see whether the highest point is diametrically opposite the lowest point.

Besides a warped rotor, which should be obvious on even the crudest resurfacing machines, I have seen rotors and drums that were clamped in the resurfacing machine at an angle (clamped on flange, not adequately coaxial with spindle) and then "resurfaced" out of alignment!, and I've seen poorly seated bearings both produce runout on an otherwise perfect part.


Brake rotor truing / resurface

sujit roy
 

I had some Triumph Stag rotors resurfaced at O Reilly years back. I now have them on my car but there is excessive run-out. I can buy new out of UK, but they are of poor quality.
Is there a place in San Jose who can true them? I'm assuming they need to go on a lathe and not some mickey mouse brake resurface machine.
I will check for min. thickness

Sujit


Car carrier burning and abandoned in the Atlantic

Lawrence Rhodes
 

1,100 luxury cars.  What a pity.  Could this be a way of getting rid of stranded assets.  
Lawrence Rhodes 


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/world/europe/felicity-ace-vessel-fire.html?auth=login-google&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20220218&instance_id=53574&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108513477&segment_id=83155&te=1&user_id=d43ba64a8c1a5f40ae65efe44b173266


Announcing West Coast Citroen Rendez Vous 2022

David Bruckmann
 

The San Francisco Region Citroën Car Club is proud to present this year’s West Coast Citroën Rendez Vous, October 21st through 23rd, 2022, in Sonora, California

THE VENUE

After considering venues all the way from Pacific Grove east through Salinas and San Juan Bautista, we are pleased to announce that we settled on Sonora.

In the beautiful Sierra Nevada Foothills and at the very heart of California's "Gold Country", the town is named after the miners from Sonora Mexico who settled the City in 1848. Known as the "Queen of the Southern Mines", Sonora still holds on to its historic downtown charm while thriving as the commercial, government and cultural center for the region.

Our home base for the weekend will be the Best Western Sonora Oaks Hotel. Rooms include a full breakfast, WiFi, and access to the on-site pool. Our group rate is $144/night and they've agreed to offer that rate for 30 rooms. After that it is market rate, which is usually about $165/night.

THE PROGRAMME

On Friday night we will welcome people at the registration area. You're encouraged to join us for a casual, prepare-your-own dinner on the hotel BBQ, or drop by for drinks before exploring dinner options in town. We will send more information about that as the date approaches.

On Saturday morning we'll head out on a scenic drive through incredibly beautiful foothills. Our endpoint will be the home of longtime SFRCCC members Susan and Peter Kendall. There we will enjoy included soft drinks and whichever of these boxed lunches you’ve selected at registration:

Thanksgiving
Roasted Turkey, spiced cranberry sauce, mayo, lettuce, on "stuffing" bread.
OR
Roast Beef
Roasted and sliced tri-tip, horseradish cream cheese spread, caramelized onions, lettuce, on a ciabatta roll.
OR
Veggie
Sautéed onions, peppers, and mushrooms, with alfalfa sprouts, tomato, cucumber, Provolone cheese, fresh hummus, on sliced multi-grain bread.

Over lunch, hang out and chat amongst the cars, and take in a technical session or two under the lift in Peter's dream garage.

The Kendalls live just 10 minutes away from both downtown Sonora and the hotel, so Saturday afternoon you can either dip into a museum in town, or dip into the hotel's pool. Your choice!

From 6pm on Saturday we will enjoy finger food and beverages in advance of a 7pm plated dinner at the hotel's Oak Glen room. You’ll start with an appetizer and whichever of these options you selected at registration:

Grilled Moroccan Chicken Supreme w/ Black Currant-Tomato Chutney, Preserved Lemon Rice Pilaf,
Braised Brussels Sprouts w/ Creamy Sriracha & Shaved Asiago
OR
Grilled Ahi Tuna Steak w/ Mango Salsa, Coconut Rice,
Broccoli, Onion, Red Pepper, Summer Squash Stir-fry
OR
Wild Mushroom Ragout on Creamy Coconut Polenta w/ Parsnips, Chick Peas & Miso
Broccoli, Onion, Red Pepper, Summer Squash Stir-fry

Your three-course dinner INCLUDES all soft drinks, wine, beer, and coffee.

During dinner on Saturday night we will enjoy some very special entertainment and an awards programme.

While there are no planned events on Sunday, we'll be sending you more information about local sights and driving routes that you can explore individually.

Also new this year: there are delicious gluten-free and special diet options for both the boxed lunch and the plated dinner. Just use the checkbox on the registration form and we will get in touch with you to sort out the details.

SEE YOU IN OCTOBER

We are so pleased to be organizing this year's Rendez Vous, and look forward to seeing all of you who can join. Drop a note to CitroenSF@... if you have any questions, otherwise we hope to see you in Sonora!

To register for Rendez Vous Twenty Two, head over to http://www.sfrccc.org/


Not Arcane car for sale

Gerard Chateauvieux
 

I have a neighbor/friend that passed away back in December. He drove a 2000 Ford Crown Victoria, that his kids would like to sell. The car is in very good condition with just over 100,000 miles and had been well maintained. The car is a blue green, is a one owner and has always been garaged. If anyone here is interested, send me a private message and I’ll connect you with the family. I have no financial interest, just trying to help out.

Gerard


Re: More used small trucks from Japan being sold in the USA - drive on the road?

Stephen Cooper
 

As to the upcoming EV in Sweden w/1000 km range, once again I have not one but 2 deposits down on an Aptera which has a model with a 1000 MILE range utilising its onboard solar charging system array embedded virtually everywhere on the body. I have chosen the 'regular' model with a mere 400 mile range however (I'm just plain cheap).
I said once again because many years ago I had a much larger deposit down on the original Aptera, which never got produced.  However, not unlike Jay Leno, I was able to actually DRIVE one of those prototypes when they were trucked to Stanford Shopping Center in Palo Alto for an exhibition way back when.

Speaking of "home build" specs, I am the proud owner of TWO Miles ZX40Ss, a 2007 NEV/LSV capable of 25 mph with a purported range of 50 miles and a 2006 Miles which could not be registered due to some VIN. # situation... well, having a car that is unlicense-able is intriguing if nothing else, right?  I mean it's a challenge unto one's ingenuity!

The Miles cars were designed here in California by a man who wanted to electrify America and do his own thing.  His ultimate goal was a highway capable car with a 100 mile plus capability, so he started out meeting DOT's Title 500 specs.  His cars used a body built in many countries and had them built in CHINA using the original FWD transaxles coupled to 48 volt DC motors via non-curtis controllers powered by FOUR 150ah lead acid batteries. Each battery weighs a mere 105lbs.  After bringing in a few hundred into Port Hueneme, here in California and selling them, they garnered so many complaints of them being unable to climb hills and slowing from 25mph to 15 mph when driven over a freeway overpass, they had the factory change the system to 72 volts DC, which is what I bought.  The MSRP on those cars was $19,950, which I bought from the manufacturer's lot at Port Hueneme for $4,000 a piece.....why such a discount you ask?
Well, even the 72 volt cars were "less than acceptable" to most discerning EV drivers at the time.....So they once again changed the production line. This time they went from DC to AC motors.........ahh, finally a car that could go up the hills in Seaside, California at a "full-on 25mph"!  They had a dealer in Seaside.

Now these bodies are very nice, thickish steel, nicely appointed with thick leather-like vinyl (I still think they might be leather), windshield washers, even on the rear window with it's wiper, am/fm/cd, everything you'd want sans electric windows. They actually had full 10mph bumpers which exceeded DOT specs at the time I believe.  These bodies have been badged Daihatsus, Suzukis as the Wagon R, and Perodua Kenari's.  I've driven many hundreds of miles in my friend's Kenari over in England where they were imported from Malaysia as a "poor man's 4 wheel alternative to the Reliant Robin".

Well that brings us full circle back to the matter of "home-built".

I mentioned in the beginning that Miles cars used the donor vehicle's transaxle.  This was locked in 2nd gear to keep it to 25mph range.

I quickly got tired of 25 mph and longed for "more speed" which is many men's desires, right? I wanted to be able to keep up on roads that allowed a 35mph speed.

So, since I had this un-licensable car sitting around (not sitting in my local neighbourhood I assure you), on one of my frequent trips to England to visit my friend with the Kenari, we visited the dealer and asked if he had any wrecked cars from which we could obtain the gear lever and linkage to the tranaxle.  He handed it to me for $50s equivalent.  It was small enough to fit in my luggage.  When I peeled back the carpeting and underlayment in my car I was greeted by holes in the appropriate locations with sheet metal spot welded covers.  When I got all done connecting I had a car shiftable into 1st  (the car would climb the wall in this gear) 2nd for up to 25mph and 3rd which took me to 39mph! Yippee...............never try 4th gear due to the electric motor spinning so faaaaaasssssssttttt  it would be gone in seconds.
I can tell you that I have driven that 3 RD gear car (it would start off slower in 3rd gear than the 2nd gear car which I could squeal the tires in but the ability of upwards of 40mph was worth it)  on the FREEWAY from Scotts Valley to Santa Cruz....40mph you can get away with feigning "sluggish acceleration" and very soon you're picking up significant speed as you wind your way DOWN the mountain at over 60mph. Some people suggested the system would tear itself apart at that speed but it never did up to the time all the batteries wore out and for the replacement cost of $2500 one could invest in a cheap used highway speed capable modern lithium EV.
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I went to DMV with my receipts for the parts and alluding to all the stuff I'd done with bits from other cars, I was able to finally license my vehicle in 2011 as a "special build" which is SMOG EXEMPT even though its fully electric.  I affectionately refer to it as a Miles Faraday.

--
Today is the first day of the rest of your life


Re: More used small trucks from Japan being sold in the USA - drive on the road?

600miles
 

I built and drove this Honda 600 for years. 4' track x 4' wheel base. 


Re: Citroen GS bumpers

Christopher Freitas
 

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The Tesla model Y has a similar issue with it's back bumper - the hatch extends down into the bumper so it would be crushed with a simple low speed impact... 


Re: More used small trucks from Japan being sold in the USA - drive on the road?

Lawrence Rhodes
 

  • Preaching to the choir brother. I couldn't even come close to building my 2016 Leaf for the$13,550.00 I paid brand new. However the more money than brains club might think differently. Lawrence Rhodes
       
       
       
    Hi Lawrence,               
        For every law, there's a loop hole.   That's why we hire lawyers.       
    Each vehicle can circumnavigate regulations in different ways.   If    
    you have a REVA that is OK to register as a NEV (Max legal speed     
    = 25 MPH) but your commute has a freeway stretch, you might    
    swap it's drive line for one from a used Tesla.   Don't worry about   
    a speeding ticket cuz you could go from Zero to Hell in 3 seconds.   
    Illustration below:          
          
       
           
           
       

    (I once fit into the back seat of a REVA but it required the front seat   
    back to be folded and door open for the leg that wasn't tucked    
    into my chest. )       
        If you submit an application for a "Home made" car from parts    
    that are on hand,   There are far less requirements.   If there are less   
    that 50 of a vehicle manufactured, they don't have to be crash tested.     
        For a smokey little Tuk Tuk, a different ploy might be necessary.                        
        A lot of people have approached me to convert their favorite classic   
    to an EV.   60 years ago, if you wanted an EV, you could buy a golf   
    cart or build your own.   I chose the latter.  I've built or converted over    
    30 EVs. 
        When I converted a VW square back, the DMV said it was illegal        
    cuz I had removed all the air pollution equipment.   A trip to the Smog    
    Referee eventually solved that.  The DMV kept sending me Smog    
    Check required with my registration renewals.           
           
        Today, when people ask me to convert their favorite classic to an    
    EV, I suggest that it is cheaper to purchase a used, mass produced   
    EV.      
        Good luck with your Kei Car.  It looks like competition for Peel.       
    Nio is offering competition for the Tesla at 40K  Euros.   It's only    
    available in China and Sweden.  It has 1000 KM range and rapid    
    battery swapping stations so no range anxiety.  
    Current model:       
       
       
    They plan to offer a EP9 Super car.   

      
        Michael Bream c/o EV West <michael@...>     
    sells kits to convert many popular cars if you're interested.             
            Lou              
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
    On 2/4/2022 9:25 AM, Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
    Hide original message
    It is making more sense for car collectors to electrify classics and Kei cars. However Kei are not allowed as much for pollution as safety. There has to be some solution like fuel requirements (alcohol). That said electric is coming weather you like it or not. There is now a way to electrify some cars with the ability to restore to OEM. That said I predict a lot of trailer queens. Lawrence Rhodes
       
       
       
       
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Re: More used small trucks from Japan being sold in the USA - drive on the road?

Lou
 

   
   
   
Hi Lawrence,               
    For every law, there's a loop hole.   That's why we hire lawyers.       
Each vehicle can circumnavigate regulations in different ways.   If    
you have a REVA that is OK to register as a NEV (Max legal speed     
= 25 MPH) but your commute has a freeway stretch, you might    
swap it's drive line for one from a used Tesla.   Don't worry about   
a speeding ticket cuz you could go from Zero to Hell in 3 seconds.   
Illustration below:          
     
   
       
      
   

(I once fit into the back seat of a REVA but it required the front seat   
back to be folded and door open for the leg that wasn't tucked    
into my chest. )       
    If you submit an application for a "Home made" car from parts    
that are on hand,   There are far less requirements.   If there are less   
that 50 of a vehicle manufactured, they don't have to be crash tested.     
    For a smokey little Tuk Tuk, a different ploy might be necessary.                        
    A lot of people have approached me to convert their favorite classic   
to an EV.   60 years ago, if you wanted an EV, you could buy a golf   
cart or build your own.   I chose the latter.  I've built or converted over    
30 EVs. 
    When I converted a VW square back, the DMV said it was illegal        
cuz I had removed all the air pollution equipment.   A trip to the Smog    
Referee eventually solved that.  The DMV kept sending me Smog    
Check required with my registration renewals.           
       
    Today, when people ask me to convert their favorite classic to an    
EV, I suggest that it is cheaper to purchase a used, mass produced   
EV.      
    Good luck with your Kei Car.  It looks like competition for Peel.       
Nio is offering competition for the Tesla at 40K Euros.   It's only    
available in China and Sweden.  It has 1000 KM range and rapid    
battery swapping stations so no range anxiety.  
Current model:       
   
   
They plan to offer a EP9 Super car.   

  
    Michael Bream c/o EV West <michael@...>     
sells kits to convert many popular cars if you're interested.             
        Lou              
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

On 2/4/2022 9:25 AM, Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
It is making more sense for car collectors to electrify classics and Kei cars. However Kei are not allowed as much for pollution as safety. There has to be some solution like fuel requirements (alcohol). That said electric is coming weather you like it or not. There is now a way to electrify some cars with the ability to restore to OEM. That said I predict a lot of trailer queens. Lawrence Rhodes
   
   
   
   


Re: Citroen GS bumpers

Christopher Freitas
 

The Tesla model Y has a similar issue with it's back bumper - the hatch extends down into the bumper so it would be crushed with a simple low speed impact... 


On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 10:52 AM Dick Tuttle via groups.io <four4dhc=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you Adrian for that great piece of writing.  If you like humorous writing like this, I recommend Travels with Velosolex here:

Dick Tuttle

-----Original Message-----
From: adrian cockcroft <adrian.cockcroft@...>
To: ArcaneAutos@groups.io <ArcaneAutos@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2022 9:55 pm
Subject: [ArcaneAutos] Citroen GS bumpers


Fun story from Jalopnik that I found on Apple News. Odd to see the GS, I had both a ‘76 GS Pallas and an ‘81 GSA back in the early 1980’s in the UK. 

Enjoy
Adrian 


Re: Citroen GS bumpers

Dick Tuttle
 

Thank you Adrian for that great piece of writing.  If you like humorous writing like this, I recommend Travels with Velosolex here:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0300.htm

Dick Tuttle

-----Original Message-----
From: adrian cockcroft <adrian.cockcroft@...>
To: ArcaneAutos@groups.io <ArcaneAutos@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2022 9:55 pm
Subject: [ArcaneAutos] Citroen GS bumpers


Fun story from Jalopnik that I found on Apple News. Odd to see the GS, I had both a ‘76 GS Pallas and an ‘81 GSA back in the early 1980’s in the UK. 

Enjoy
Adrian 


Re: Any classic Merc owners in this group

justin.pirie
 

You can dremel out the stakes to replace them like normal u-joints. Or take them to a driveshaft shop- my favourite is: Drive Line Service of San Leandro
(510) 352-3500
https://goo.gl/maps/9fr1X9zJmYbK2jdz9


Citroen GS bumpers

adrian cockcroft
 


Fun story from Jalopnik that I found on Apple News. Odd to see the GS, I had both a ‘76 GS Pallas and an ‘81 GSA back in the early 1980’s in the UK. 

Enjoy
Adrian 


Re: What happens when you are obsessed with your cellphone

Peter Anning
 

Oh my God -- these are excellent and TRUE. Very funny -- Thanks for sharing!

-- Peter Anning
   p.anning@...


On Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 04:28:08 PM PST, Ken Nelson <citbuff@...> wrote:





Subject: Fwd: What happens when you are obsessed with your cellphone

 


What happens when you are obsessed with your cellphone

Ken Nelson
 




Subject: Fwd: What happens when you are obsessed with your cellphone

 


Re: Any classic Merc owners in this group

Ken Nelson
 

So - exactly HOW are you supposed to stake them, as that's what the ad says -.

PS Sujit - my cherrypicker is in storage in Sacramento, so I'm afraid you'll need to borrow someone elses if you still need one - 

Regards,
Ken

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:07 PM sujit roy via groups.io <sujitroy=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I've been told Merc back in the day used staked UJ for the drive lines. If this the case, where do you folks get them replaced? I'm in Cupertino
Early Triumph Stag's used a similar set up.

Here is a link to a UJ which can be used on a Stag. It's listed for  a Merc.


https://www.powertrainindustries.com/story/2851-24?catalog_table=dsp_ujoints


Sujit

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