Re: Does Radical Unschooling always result in "Good" children?


-=-Are there any Radically Unschooled children, who have grown up, who are not 'good' people? Who cheat, steal, treat people badly, lie, etc...?-=-
Are there any parents who become radical unschoolers who are not 'good' people?

I think it's a fantastic question, and Joyce's answer was so cool I stuck it here. Will probably add Pam's, too.

The background is some blown glass I have, the first photo I took with a new camera some years ago (in case anyone's wondering).

There are some unschooling parents who are not sterling examples of integrity. So the eternal questions involving nature and nurture apply to unschoolers as much as to anyone, anywhere, any time.

If there is anyone reading there who is unfamiliar with the "nature vs. nurture" debate, I recommend the movie "Trading Places." It stars Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy, backed up by Denholm Elliott as the butler (very good character) and Jamie Lee Curtis (25 years ago, VERY pretty and funny). Two millionaire brothers make a bet about nature vs. nurture. They're played by Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy. Those older actors have all since died, and they were awesome and famous when they were younger so it's fun to have seen them all in one movie, too. And Frank Oz plays a cop (as he played a prison officer in The Blues Brothers).

To Pam's list of damaging factors, things that could easily mar a person's confidence and progress, I'd like to add step parents (a by- product of divorce, and adoption. Some step parents are awesome and practically perfect in every way. Some adoptions work out glowingly for all involved. Not most. Some. Not lots. Some.

Some kids are unschooled their whole lives starting with attachment parenting and breastfeeding and family bed. Others are spanked and yelled at and sent to school and told without school they'll be homeless beggars, or worse. Then if their parents switch to unschooling and start working to make up for that, how long will it take for the child to recover from the initial ideas that the parents were wrong before and could be wrong again, or maybe that the parents were right before and don't care that the child will be a beggar in prison.

It's possible to put all kinds of obstacles in a child's life, or to bring all kinds of trouble home. The question is asked about whether a radical unschooler could turn out bad. ANY person could turn out bad, or have a great 30 years and then factors could overwhelm them, or have a terrible 30 years, and somehow rise above it to become saints of some sort.

How many obstacles can a person overcome? It depends on the person, largely. I can handle a lot of stress, but if I'm pre-loaded with stress and deadlines and guests coming, a small thing can seem HUGE to me in that moment.

This page might be worth looking at too:

If you think of what you could do to make things worse, that creates an immediate set of what to do to make things better.

When my boys were little they took swimming lessons and would recite the safety reminders in opposite terms:
Never swim with a buddy, always swim alone.
Swim in a storm.
Run by the pool.

Because they could do that, I knew for certain that they did know the list.


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