T-Trak arch bridge modules


nycrr8
 

Geoff,  It's not a duh moment.  The palpable stress levels around this pandemic does that to most people.
While I like the Ngineers thought, I think that both N-Trak and T-Trak have a national brand name recognition that we could never achieve on our own, so to me it makes more sense to me to piggy back off that national brand name recognition.  If N-Trak or T-Trak people should be transferred by an employer to the Albany area or just move here, we would show up more in searches, etc.  I also don't think that one excludes the other.  In the evolution of the standard first came N-Trak, then much later T-Trak.  So I don't think you have to throw out one for the other. 

Rather than reinvent the wheel, maybe we should look at how other clubs and National integrate or deal with the two standards.  My usual go to is NVN-Trak (North Virginia N-Trak).  They are very active in T-Trak, but when I look at their website have not re-branded or changed the club name, at least not yet.  But I don't have any insight beyond that.
Regards,
"John Henry"


lacasse
 

I like Albany Ngineers to, Mike L.

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From: john valachovic via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:34 PM
To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

I like it too. On a different note, week after week, we are getting more likes on our Facebook page.  I have not been pushing content at all. We really should try to push content.  The fact is. More and more with a lot of hobbies, including ours, Facebook has taken over the roles of forums, groups etc. There has been some anecdotal information that younger hobbiests are much more active through Facebook and YouTube.  If we are looking to try to recruit more members,  particularly younger members,  this could be a good avenue.  Just my 2cents, I understand some of members are reluctant to go this way for various reasons and i respect that. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Michael Romanowski <mmroman@...> Date: 4/9/20 6:14 PM (GMT-05:00) To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules I like it. > On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io <ontario_and_erie@...> wrote:> >  New name.  Hmmm...  Albany Ngineers?> Brian Hilgenberg> > >    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:35:22 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:> > Currently, the club does the following:> TTrak - PCC (March)> TTrak - ALCo (April)> N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)> TTrak - PCC (November)> TTrak - GTE (November)> and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).> > So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.> > Geoff> > > > >


Forest Bevins
 

If the group can come up with a name and a logo design, I can 3D print a logo in either a negative or positive for the bridge. I would need dimensions and a logo in a jpeg format and someone to paint it if it a positive or it can be left white as a negative and a light box put behind it. more decisions i know. I've done 2 for UMRR

Forest Bevins
Upstate Model Railroaders
forestbevins@...
518-832-3511

On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 06:34:35 PM EDT, john valachovic via groups.io <albanymain@...> wrote:

I like it too. On a different note, week after week, we are getting more likes on our Facebook page.  I have not been pushing content at all. We really should try to push content.  The fact is. More and more with a lot of hobbies, including ours, Facebook has taken over the roles of forums, groups etc. There has been some anecdotal information that younger hobbiests are much more active through Facebook and YouTube.  If we are looking to try to recruit more members,  particularly younger members,  this could be a good avenue.  Just my 2cents, I understand some of members are reluctant to go this way for various reasons and i respect that. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Michael Romanowski <mmroman@...> Date: 4/9/20  6:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules I like it. > On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io <ontario_and_erie@...> wrote:> >  New name.  Hmmm...  Albany Ngineers?> Brian Hilgenberg> > >    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:35:22 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:> > Currently, the club does the following:> TTrak - PCC (March)> TTrak - ALCo (April)> N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)> TTrak - PCC (November)> TTrak - GTE (November)> and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).> > So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.> > Geoff> > > > >


john valachovic
 

I like it too. On a different note, week after week, we are getting more likes on our Facebook page.  I have not been pushing content at all. We really should try to push content.  The fact is. More and more with a lot of hobbies, including ours, Facebook has taken over the roles of forums, groups etc. There has been some anecdotal information that younger hobbiests are much more active through Facebook and YouTube.  If we are looking to try to recruit more members,  particularly younger members,  this could be a good avenue.  Just my 2cents, I understand some of members are reluctant to go this way for various reasons and i respect that. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------From: Michael Romanowski <mmroman@...> Date: 4/9/20 6:14 PM (GMT-05:00) To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules I like it. > On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io <ontario_and_erie@...> wrote:> >  New name.  Hmmm...  Albany Ngineers?> Brian Hilgenberg> > >    On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:35:22 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:> > Currently, the club does the following:> TTrak - PCC (March)> TTrak - ALCo (April)> N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)> TTrak - PCC (November)> TTrak - GTE (November)> and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).> > So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.> > Geoff> > > > >


Michael Romanowski
 

I like it.

On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io <ontario_and_erie@...> wrote:

 New name. Hmmm... Albany Ngineers?
Brian Hilgenberg


On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:35:22 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

Currently, the club does the following:
TTrak - PCC (March)
TTrak - ALCo (April)
N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)
TTrak - PCC (November)
TTrak - GTE (November)
and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).

So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.

Geoff





Brian Hilgenberg
 

New name.  Hmmm...  Albany Ngineers?
Brian Hilgenberg

On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:35:22 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

Currently, the club does the following:
TTrak - PCC (March)
TTrak - ALCo (April)
N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)
TTrak - PCC (November)
TTrak - GTE (November)
and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).

So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.

Geoff


Geoff Dunn
 

Currently, the club does the following:
TTrak - PCC (March)
TTrak - ALCo (April)
N-Trak - Poughkeepsie (November)
TTrak - PCC (November)
TTrak - GTE (November)
and TTrak - Glens Falls (dates vary).

So one out of six shows annually uses N-Trak modules, or 17%.

Geoff


Michael Richards
 

While I am comfortable with the current group name, Mike does make a good
point as I believe I heard that the only NTrak show we do is the
Poughkeepsie show and we seem to be moving more to a T-TRAK based group. So
while there’s a historical tradition to the Albany N-Trak name I see little
harm in making the change to reflect the evolution of the group’s
activities.

As for acquiring a bridge, I vote YES. I have noticed at shows that the
various scenes attract a lot of attention from the public and the bridge
would only draw more attention. We are in serious need of younger members
(the current health issues have underscored that the group average age is
hardly young). I believe that use of T-TRAK modules (and comparative ease
to construct, transport and store them) will help attract new members.

Be well and stay safe my friends.

Mike Richards


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:15 AM Michael Romanowski <mmroman@...>
wrote:

What percentage of shows are Ntrak versus T TRAK? I think that would
determine a name change or not.
On Apr 9, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thank you, John Henry. That's a "duh" moment for me.

As far as a name change - I'm comfortable with Albany N-Trak, even
though we've branched out to TTrak (yes, the national group specifies a
dash in one but not the other). But Mike's suggestions are good too. More
input from the rest of you?

Geoff






Michael Romanowski
 

What percentage of shows are Ntrak versus T TRAK? I think that would determine a name change or not.

On Apr 9, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

Thank you, John Henry. That's a "duh" moment for me.

As far as a name change - I'm comfortable with Albany N-Trak, even though we've branched out to TTrak (yes, the national group specifies a dash in one but not the other). But Mike's suggestions are good too. More input from the rest of you?

Geoff



Geoff Dunn
 

Thank you, John Henry. That's a "duh" moment for me.

As far as a name change - I'm comfortable with Albany N-Trak, even though we've branched out to TTrak (yes, the national group specifies a dash in one but not the other). But Mike's suggestions are good too. More input from the rest of you?

Geoff


nycrr8
 

Technically we do have a logo, but obviously you can always change it.  A long time ago, there was a vote to use the NYC Cigar Band style logo with our club name and website url on it.  The one attached with the brighter red background does appear on our website and was used on a display banner that used to hang at train shows.  Doug also used it without the website address for our our first batch of long-sleeved maroon shirts.  The logo attachment on the darker maroon background is from Landsend and appears on the later batches of long-sleeved and short sleeved (polo) shirts, as well as operators aprons, caps, boat totes (well really train gear totes), etc.

Hope everyone is well,
"John Henry" Low


Doug Dederick
 

Personal I think we need to change the name. Not sure to what but maybe table a few suggestion

On Apr 9, 2020, at 7:58 AM, lacasse <lacasse@...> wrote:

One of the discussions we have had is about our club name, Albany-N-Trak. Should we consider altering our name to perhaps; Albany-N Scale, or Albany-T-Trak, Albany Modular N Scale, or something else which better identifies us now? Mike L.

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From: Geoff Dunn via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 9:01 PM
To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

Ok, some clarifications... We can have the club logo cut into either bridge, for $30. We don't have a club logo that we use, although I think Mike L. drew one up 25 years ago. If someone wants to design a club T-Trak logo, we can go that route. I like a advertising ourselves...

Rod, I hope we can safely get together soon, but only when the medical professionals agree!

Geoff







lacasse
 

One of the discussions we have had is about our club name, Albany-N-Trak. Should we consider altering our name to perhaps; Albany-N Scale, or Albany-T-Trak, Albany Modular N Scale, or something else which better identifies us now? Mike L.

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From: Geoff Dunn via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 9:01 PM
To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

Ok, some clarifications... We can have the club logo cut into either bridge, for $30. We don't have a club logo that we use, although I think Mike L. drew one up 25 years ago. If someone wants to design a club T-Trak logo, we can go that route. I like a advertising ourselves...

Rod, I hope we can safely get together soon, but only when the medical professionals agree!

Geoff


Geoff Dunn
 

Ok, some clarifications... We can have the club logo cut into either bridge, for $30. We don't have a club logo that we use, although I think Mike L. drew one up 25 years ago. If someone wants to design a club T-Trak logo, we can go that route. I like a advertising ourselves...

Rod, I hope we can safely get together soon, but only when the medical professionals agree!

Geoff


Rod Mason
 

I also like the 2nd one although who knows when there will be a show where we can set up safely! Rod

On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:58 PM, lacasse <lacasse@...> wrote:

I like the second one myself. The T-Trak logo built in and it is a self contained module. I vote to spend the club money on one of these. Mike L.

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From: Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 1:48 PM
To: albanyntrak@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

Ooh, ooh! Can I build it?
Brian Hilgernberg

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 1:36:12 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

We have a bunch of money in our account. We don't have to spend it. But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019 or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space. Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive. Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff









Doug Dederick
 

I am ok with it ( so if I have a vote I vote yes )

Thanks Doug

On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

We have a bunch of money in our account. We don't have to spend it. But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019 or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space. Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive. Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff



john valachovic
 

i vote to buy

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...>
To: AlbanyNTrak@groups.io
Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 1:35 pm
Subject: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

We have a bunch of money in our account.  We don't have to spend it.  But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019   or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space.  Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive.  Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff


Forest Bevins
 

I vote yes to buy

Forest Bevins
Upstate Model Railroaders
forestbevins@...
518-832-3511

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 01:36:10 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

We have a bunch of money in our account.  We don't have to spend it.  But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019   or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space.  Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive.  Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff


Mark Fleischhauer
 

Fine with me.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...>
To: AlbanyNTrak <AlbanyNTrak@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 1:36 pm
Subject: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

We have a bunch of money in our account.  We don't have to spend it.  But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019   or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space.  Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive.  Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff


Michael Romanowski
 

I am for it
Michael Romanowski
Vice President
Upstate Model Railroaders
www.upstatemodelrailroaders.com
518-423-7519

On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:58 PM, lacasse <lacasse@...> wrote:

I like the second one myself. The T-Trak logo built in and it is a self contained module. I vote to spend the club money on one of these. Mike L.

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From: Brian Hilgenberg via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 1:48 PM
To: albanyntrak@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTrak] T-Trak arch bridge modules

Ooh, ooh! Can I build it?
Brian Hilgernberg

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 1:36:12 PM EDT, Geoff Dunn via groups.io <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote:

We have a bunch of money in our account. We don't have to spend it. But I'm curious how the membership feels about purchasing one of these:
https://www.cmrproducts.com/store/N-Scale-T-TRAK-Module-Lackawanna-Arch-Bridge-Double-p180656019 or
http://www.redrivermodels.com/t-store/t-bridge.html

We are sometimes space-constrained, but a 2X module like one of these would be nice when we have lots of space. Personally, I like the second one because the arches are larger, but it's more expensive. Thoughts from the membership?

Geoff