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Re: GTE Wrap up

Rod Mason
 

Correction to my message from yesterday: the power pole to Cinch Jones adapters have female, not male, connectors.

 

Rod

 


From: Roderick W. Mason [mailto:rmason1@...]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 7:16 PM
To: 'AlbanyNTRAK@...'
Subject: RE: [AlbanyNTRAK] GTE Wrap up

 

One issue that I discovered about an hour before the end of the show was that the bus connections for the blue and yellow lines (DCC) between one of my modules and the corner module to the left of my module were never hooked-up.  However, the bus connections for the orange and red lines (DC) were connected using a power pole to a male Cinch Jones adapter.  The break in the bus on the blue and yellow was causing trains to hesitate or sometimes completely stall when going between the corner module and my module.  I was able to correct the problem by installing tighter rail joiners where the modules were joined but was unable to correct the break in the bus as I couldn’t track down 2 adapters similar to the ones that were installed on the orange and red lines.  BTW, I discovered that the adapters were still attached to the power poles for the orange and red lines on my module when I got home (I’ll bring them to the Columbia-Greene CC show when they will next be needed).

 

Rod

 


From: AlbanyNTRAK@... [mailto:AlbanyNTRAK@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 6:57 PM
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] GTE Wrap up

 

 

I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

 

A few of other things:

 

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

 

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

 

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

 

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

 

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

 

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: GTE Wrap up

Rod Mason
 

One issue that I discovered about an hour before the end of the show was that the bus connections for the blue and yellow lines (DCC) between one of my modules and the corner module to the left of my module were never hooked-up.  However, the bus connections for the orange and red lines (DC) were connected using a power pole to a male Cinch Jones adapter.  The break in the bus on the blue and yellow was causing trains to hesitate or sometimes completely stall when going between the corner module and my module.  I was able to correct the problem by installing tighter rail joiners where the modules were joined but was unable to correct the break in the bus as I couldn’t track down 2 adapters similar to the ones that were installed on the orange and red lines.  BTW, I discovered that the adapters were still attached to the power poles for the orange and red lines on my module when I got home (I’ll bring them to the Columbia-Greene CC show when they will next be needed).

 

Rod

 


From: AlbanyNTRAK@... [mailto:AlbanyNTRAK@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 6:57 PM
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] GTE Wrap up

 

 

I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

 

A few of other things:

 

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

 

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

 

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

 

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

 

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

 

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

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Dave Sefcik

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Piretti Real Estate

22 Walker Street

Lenox MA 01240

413-822-8525 (cell)

413-637-1696 (offfice)

 

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Re: GTE Wrap up

Geoff Dunn
 

I'm glad the layout went well at the GTE.  Dave, I'm happy letting others hold club stuff during down time.  My parents moved this summer and my garage and basement are full.

Doug's dues - that's great.  We now have eight people who have paid up.  If you don't remember paying, ask me off the Yahoo group.  If you don't pay by late March, the by-laws say you can't vote in late September.  John, I haven't cashed your check yet.

Speaking of money, we received $125 from the Upstate Train Associates yesterday.  We also have a check from the Poughkeepsie show.  UMRR has paid us in the past and I expect we'll get something from them again this week.

At one point, Rod had offered to sell his LNWI to the club.  I want to hang onto mine, as I have used it in other settings.  Dave, is buying Rod's slightly used but nicely tested LNWI acceptable, and Rod, do you still want to part with it?

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., <lenoxrealtor@...> wrote :

I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

A few of other things:

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

Dave





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Lenox MA 01240
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413-637-1696 (offfice)

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Re: GTE Wrap up (DCC shorts)

Michael Romanowski
 

Some Switches allow for powering the frog. If that is done then there is no possibility of a short. You have to isolate the two inner rails coming from the frog. With the frog powered with the switch direction then both frog rails have the same polarity. No short. 
Michael Romanowski
Upstate Model Railroaders
518-423-7519

On Dec 4, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Brian Hilgenberg ontario_and_erie@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:


The shorts are happening at the frogs of switches.  The two rails come very close together at the frog.  If the wheels of an engine touch the diverging rail at the frog it causes a momentary short.  The circuit breakers on the DCC controllers need to be very sensitive due to the high currents involved.  The only real way to eliminate it is with power routing switches such as Peco. Of course, this brings the possibility of dead point rails due to poor contact.  

I installed jumper wires on the Peco switches in my German modules.  While this eliminated dead points, it did cause shorts with DCC at the frogs.  This is why I don't bring them to N-trak shows anymore.

I have read articles about applying a small amount of paint or nail polish to the tips of the rails at the frogs.  Of course, this will need to be done constantly as the first pass of a Bright Boy would remove it.  Perhaps someone can come up an idea for a more permanent solution?


Brian Hilgenberg



Re: GTE Wrap up (DCC shorts)

Brian Hilgenberg
 


The shorts are happening at the frogs of switches.  The two rails come very close together at the frog.  If the wheels of an engine touch the diverging rail at the frog it causes a momentary short.  The circuit breakers on the DCC controllers need to be very sensitive due to the high currents involved.  The only real way to eliminate it is with power routing switches such as Peco. Of course, this brings the possibility of dead point rails due to poor contact. 

I installed jumper wires on the Peco switches in my German modules.  While this eliminated dead points, it did cause shorts with DCC at the frogs.  This is why I don't bring them to N-trak shows anymore.

I have read articles about applying a small amount of paint or nail polish to the tips of the rails at the frogs.  Of course, this will need to be done constantly as the first pass of a Bright Boy would remove it.  Perhaps someone can come up an idea for a more permanent solution?


Brian Hilgenberg


Re: GTE Wrap up

Doug Dederick
 

yes nail polish works very well and you are a 100% correct on the Kato cars I had to remove some of the lighting kits on my home layout. Hope you guys had a good show Mike



On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Michael Romanowski mmroman@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:

 Bob Gatland used clear nail polish on a small section of the frog to prevent shorts. 

Kato passenger cars often cause shorts. They are all wired for lights and when they derail they short the layout. 
One possible fix is to add a circuit breaker for each DCC line. Hopefully a short on one line will not stop the rest of the layout. 


On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Doug ddederic@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:

 

Hi Dave and others    I am sorry I was not much of a help yesterday. I just didn’t have it in me and not feeling well. I think some of the shorts can be a quick fix. Some of the Peco switches can cause a short when the wheels touch the frog points at the tip of the frog. I have this problem at home on one of mine. The fix for that is to seal the frog at that location with some paint or rubber cement. There is one other issue that has caused some shorts. Metal wheels on some passenger cars and/or other equipment. Again the quick fix would be to just pull the problem car/equipment off the layout for the remainder of the show in order to make for a smoother running layout as a club.Just some suggestion to help with a few of the problems. Other then some of the shorts I think it all went very well. 


Thanks Dave for letting put in my 2 cents

Doug


On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Dave S lenoxrealtor@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:


I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

A few of other things:

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

Dave





-- 
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Broker Associate
Piretti Real Estate
22 Walker Street
Lenox MA 01240
413-822-8525 (cell)
413-637-1696 (offfice)

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Re: GTE Wrap up

Michael Romanowski
 

 Bob Gatland used clear nail polish on a small section of the frog to prevent shorts. 
Kato passenger cars often cause shorts. They are all wired for lights and when they derail they short the layout. 
One possible fix is to add a circuit breaker for each DCC line. Hopefully a short on one line will not stop the rest of the layout. 


On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Doug ddederic@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:

 

Hi Dave and others    I am sorry I was not much of a help yesterday. I just didn’t have it in me and not feeling well. I think some of the shorts can be a quick fix. Some of the Peco switches can cause a short when the wheels touch the frog points at the tip of the frog. I have this problem at home on one of mine. The fix for that is to seal the frog at that location with some paint or rubber cement. There is one other issue that has caused some shorts. Metal wheels on some passenger cars and/or other equipment. Again the quick fix would be to just pull the problem car/equipment off the layout for the remainder of the show in order to make for a smoother running layout as a club.Just some suggestion to help with a few of the problems. Other then some of the shorts I think it all went very well. 


Thanks Dave for letting put in my 2 cents

Doug


On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Dave S lenoxrealtor@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:


I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

A few of other things:

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

Dave





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Broker Associate
Piretti Real Estate
22 Walker Street
Lenox MA 01240
413-822-8525 (cell)
413-637-1696 (offfice)

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Re: GTE Wrap up

Doug Dederick
 

Hi Dave and others    I am sorry I was not much of a help yesterday. I just didn’t have it in me and not feeling well. I think some of the shorts can be a quick fix. Some of the Peco switches can cause a short when the wheels touch the frog points at the tip of the frog. I have this problem at home on one of mine. The fix for that is to seal the frog at that location with some paint or rubber cement. There is one other issue that has caused some shorts. Metal wheels on some passenger cars and/or other equipment. Again the quick fix would be to just pull the problem car/equipment off the layout for the remainder of the show in order to make for a smoother running layout as a club.Just some suggestion to help with a few of the problems. Other then some of the shorts I think it all went very well. 

Thanks Dave for letting put in my 2 cents

Doug


On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Dave S lenoxrealtor@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:


I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

A few of other things:

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

Dave





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Piretti Real Estate
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Lenox MA 01240
413-822-8525 (cell)
413-637-1696 (offfice)

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GTE Wrap up

Dave Sefcik
 

I want to thank everyone that attended, brought modules or just helped out with today's GTE show. The layout looked good, we ran a lot of trains and I heard a lot of positive comments from the public. It was great having John's yard to stage or just park trains. I don't know for certain but it seemed to me that public attendance at the show was down. Maybe that was just my impression.

A few of other things:

Geoff - I have the club DCC system, cables, DC controllers, KATO club train and box of skirts, track, etc. I'll bring the DCC system next week Sunday and can either bring the skirts etc or keep them until Columbia Greene.

Geoff (as treasurer) - Doug D gave me his dues. I'll give them to you next week.

Geoff (boy aren't you popular) - please order one of the Digitrax Wi-Fi controllers for the club. We've now used that for three shows (I'm pretty certain we had it at Poughkeepsi) and it's worked flawlessly. I'd be OK if you order one for yourself and just make the one you already have the club's. Rod brought his today. It's way better than having to haul a laptop, router, etc.

All - Someone left a roll of narrow cork on a table. I have it and will be happy to bring it along next week.

All - Before Columbia Greene I would urge everyone to check their track work and wiring to get rid of any gremlins like track misalignments (I have at lest two were my modules join each other), frogs shorting, etc. I believe one of the two DC loops was completely dead. I'll leave that one up to the DC experts to address but it could've simply been a bad connection. 

Another constant problem that I'd really like to see go away is the all too frequent shorts which interrupt operation. I found it hard at times to switch on my modules with the frequent screech of the alarms and the stop/start caused while the system resets. I don't know what the solution is but I'll be the first to say it's very annoying. Maybe there's a DCC wizard in the club that can offer ways to work around the issue.

Lastly I hope to see a lot of you next week for the Up State T-trak show. For those of you that I don't see next week I wish you a happy holiday season.

Dave





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Piretti Real Estate
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Lenox MA 01240
413-822-8525 (cell)
413-637-1696 (offfice)

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Re: UMRR Train Show

Dave Sefcik
 

Correct, I'll be there with my usual T-trak modules. I will pass on a Saturday setup since it's a 98 mile one way drive for me.

Dave

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 2:18 PM, geoffdunnsoccer@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:
 

I hope you all had a good holiday, not too much food and not too much stress.

Forest asked me to coordinate the layout for the UMRR show.  Please let me know what you'd like to bring.  Dave, I have your module list, and I know what I'd like to bring.  Everyone else - please tell me.

Does anyone want to set up on Saturday?

Geoff



---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :

This years UMRR Show is December 10th with set up on the 9th for those wanting to bring t-trak modules up then. This year the Albany T-Trak  layout will be the premier layout and can be as large as we want to make it. I need to know who is attending and what modules you will be bringing so I can plan the layout and how many table we will need.





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Re: UMRR Train Show

Michael Romanowski
 

Saturday setup is after 3:00pm for the Upstate Model Railroaders show 


On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Michael Richards mrichar707@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:

 

Hi Geoff, yes I am bringing my 2 double T- Trak modules to Glens Falls. Has the decision been made about setting up on Saturday yet? I would vote for the early set up.


Mike Richards 



On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:11 PM geoffdunnsoccer@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:
 

I have a first draft for the UMRR show T-Trak layout on Sunday, December 10th.  It's in the Photos area.
  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbanyNTRAK/photos/albums/630497604  .  The red lines are there to mark half-tables, because the program I use to draw things makes it difficult to mark full 8' tables.

I couldn't fit all of everyone's modules into the layout.  We have way more corners than we need for a large layout, and we have a lot of module sets that make it challenging to design a layout.

There are some interesting things in this layout - Mike L. has some old-school narrow spacing modules, I have the T1 junctions, Mike L. has the corner junction, and we'll try a "wide table" for part of the layout (on the left side of the diagram).  This is two tables side by side, so we can have a little space in the middle and a little extra room around the outside of the modules.  You may have seen this done in Springfield or other locations.  We will have about five extra feet of table space on that end of the layout.  I think there is a crossover between Red and Yellow on each power district.  We have four power districts in the design.

Mike Richards, are you bringing your two double modules?  Al, Neil, Matt, Fred, Andrew or anyone else with modules - you're all welcome to bring modules.  But please let me know.

I have table covers, aka black sheets, for four tables.  If anyone else has a table cover, please bring it.

Please look this over and let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions for improvements.  Thanks.

Forest, we'll need eight tables for this layout design.

Geoff



---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :



I hope you all had a good holiday, not too much food and not too much stress.

Forest asked me to coordinate the layout for the UMRR show.  Please let me know what you'd like to bring.  Dave, I have your module list, and I know what I'd like to bring.  Everyone else - please tell me.

Does anyone want to set up on Saturday?

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :

This years UMRR Show is December 10th with set up on the 9th for those wanting to bring t-trak modules up then. This year the Albany T-Trak  layout will be the premier layout and can be as large as we want to make it. I need to know who is attending and what modules you will be bringing so I can plan the layout and how many table we will need.



Re: UMRR Train Show

Geoff Dunn
 

Glad you'll be joining us, Mike.  Regarding Saturday setup, it's a long way for Dave and Mike L.  If either of them wants to set up Saturday, then it might be worth me driving up (it takes me an hour), but otherwise it doesn't make sense.  Forest and Mike Ro. can set their modules up though, and that will help us on Sunday.

Geoff


Re: UMRR Train Show

Michael Richards
 

Hi Geoff, yes I am bringing my 2 double T- Trak modules to Glens Falls. Has the decision been made about setting up on Saturday yet? I would vote for the early set up.


Mike Richards 



On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:11 PM geoffdunnsoccer@... [AlbanyNTRAK] <AlbanyNTRAK@...> wrote:
 

I have a first draft for the UMRR show T-Trak layout on Sunday, December 10th.  It's in the Photos area.
  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbanyNTRAK/photos/albums/630497604  .  The red lines are there to mark half-tables, because the program I use to draw things makes it difficult to mark full 8' tables.

I couldn't fit all of everyone's modules into the layout.  We have way more corners than we need for a large layout, and we have a lot of module sets that make it challenging to design a layout.

There are some interesting things in this layout - Mike L. has some old-school narrow spacing modules, I have the T1 junctions, Mike L. has the corner junction, and we'll try a "wide table" for part of the layout (on the left side of the diagram).  This is two tables side by side, so we can have a little space in the middle and a little extra room around the outside of the modules.  You may have seen this done in Springfield or other locations.  We will have about five extra feet of table space on that end of the layout.  I think there is a crossover between Red and Yellow on each power district.  We have four power districts in the design.

Mike Richards, are you bringing your two double modules?  Al, Neil, Matt, Fred, Andrew or anyone else with modules - you're all welcome to bring modules.  But please let me know.

I have table covers, aka black sheets, for four tables.  If anyone else has a table cover, please bring it.

Please look this over and let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions for improvements.  Thanks.

Forest, we'll need eight tables for this layout design.

Geoff



---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :



I hope you all had a good holiday, not too much food and not too much stress.

Forest asked me to coordinate the layout for the UMRR show.  Please let me know what you'd like to bring.  Dave, I have your module list, and I know what I'd like to bring.  Everyone else - please tell me.

Does anyone want to set up on Saturday?

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :

This years UMRR Show is December 10th with set up on the 9th for those wanting to bring t-trak modules up then. This year the Albany T-Trak  layout will be the premier layout and can be as large as we want to make it. I need to know who is attending and what modules you will be bringing so I can plan the layout and how many table we will need.



Re: UMRR Train Show

Forest Bevins
 

8 tables have been set aside for us, more if needed
 
Forest Bevins
President
Upstate Model Railroaders
forestbevins@...
518-832-3511
 




On Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:11 PM, "geoffdunnsoccer@... [AlbanyNTRAK]" wrote:


 
I have a first draft for the UMRR show T-Trak layout on Sunday, December 10th.  It's in the Photos area.
  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbanyNTRAK/photos/albums/630497604  .  The red lines are there to mark half-tables, because the program I use to draw things makes it difficult to mark full 8' tables.

I couldn't fit all of everyone's modules into the layout.  We have way more corners than we need for a large layout, and we have a lot of module sets that make it challenging to design a layout.

There are some interesting things in this layout - Mike L. has some old-school narrow spacing modules, I have the T1 junctions, Mike L. has the corner junction, and we'll try a "wide table" for part of the layout (on the left side of the diagram).  This is two tables side by side, so we can have a little space in the middle and a little extra room around the outside of the modules.  You may have seen this done in Springfield or other locations.  We will have about five extra feet of table space on that end of the layout.  I think there is a crossover between Red and Yellow on each power district.  We have four power districts in the design.

Mike Richards, are you bringing your two double modules?  Al, Neil, Matt, Fred, Andrew or anyone else with modules - you're all welcome to bring modules.  But please let me know.

I have table covers, aka black sheets, for four tables.  If anyone else has a table cover, please bring it.

Please look this over and let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions for improvements.  Thanks.

Forest, we'll need eight tables for this layout design.

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :

I hope you all had a good holiday, not too much food and not too much stress.

Forest asked me to coordinate the layout for the UMRR show.  Please let me know what you'd like to bring.  Dave, I have your module list, and I know what I'd like to bring.  Everyone else - please tell me.

Does anyone want to set up on Saturday?

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., wrote :

This years UMRR Show is December 10th with set up on the 9th for those wanting to bring t-trak modules up then. This year the Albany T-Trak  layout will be the premier layout and can be as large as we want to make it. I need to know who is attending and what modules you will be bringing so I can plan the layout and how many table we will need.




Re: UMRR Train Show

Geoff Dunn
 

I have a first draft for the UMRR show T-Trak layout on Sunday, December 10th.  It's in the Photos area.
  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbanyNTRAK/photos/albums/630497604  .  The red lines are there to mark half-tables, because the program I use to draw things makes it difficult to mark full 8' tables.

I couldn't fit all of everyone's modules into the layout.  We have way more corners than we need for a large layout, and we have a lot of module sets that make it challenging to design a layout.

There are some interesting things in this layout - Mike L. has some old-school narrow spacing modules, I have the T1 junctions, Mike L. has the corner junction, and we'll try a "wide table" for part of the layout (on the left side of the diagram).  This is two tables side by side, so we can have a little space in the middle and a little extra room around the outside of the modules.  You may have seen this done in Springfield or other locations.  We will have about five extra feet of table space on that end of the layout.  I think there is a crossover between Red and Yellow on each power district.  We have four power districts in the design.

Mike Richards, are you bringing your two double modules?  Al, Neil, Matt, Fred, Andrew or anyone else with modules - you're all welcome to bring modules.  But please let me know.

I have table covers, aka black sheets, for four tables.  If anyone else has a table cover, please bring it.

Please look this over and let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions for improvements.  Thanks.

Forest, we'll need eight tables for this layout design.

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., <geoffdunnsoccer@...> wrote :

I hope you all had a good holiday, not too much food and not too much stress.

Forest asked me to coordinate the layout for the UMRR show.  Please let me know what you'd like to bring.  Dave, I have your module list, and I know what I'd like to bring.  Everyone else - please tell me.

Does anyone want to set up on Saturday?

Geoff


---In AlbanyNTRAK@..., <forestbevins@...> wrote :

This years UMRR Show is December 10th with set up on the 9th for those wanting to bring t-trak modules up then. This year the Albany T-Trak  layout will be the premier layout and can be as large as we want to make it. I need to know who is attending and what modules you will be bringing so I can plan the layout and how many table we will need.



Re: GTE layout

john valachovic
 

You should bring the DC stuff



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-------- Original message --------
From: "geoffdunnsoccer@... [AlbanyNTRAK]" <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Date: 11/29/17 7:21 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] GTE layout

 

This will be the first year I haven't participated in the GTE  N-Trak layout since we started in 1992.  I hope the layout goes up smoothly and runs well.  And I hope you all have your "Driver Entry" forms submitted and there are no issues with getting into the parking area.

I am bringing club equipment to the show.  Should I bring the DC throttles and a power supply?

Geoff



GTE layout

Geoff Dunn
 

This will be the first year I haven't participated in the GTE  N-Trak layout since we started in 1992.  I hope the layout goes up smoothly and runs well.  And I hope you all have your "Driver Entry" forms submitted and there are no issues with getting into the parking area.

I am bringing club equipment to the show.  Should I bring the DC throttles and a power supply?

Geoff



Re: Glens Falls show

lacasse
 

my N-Trak corner is 3’   Geoff, I forgot, I will bring 4 corners as well in case we need them, Mike.
 

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AlbanyNTRAK] Glens Falls show
 
 

Mike, is your Ntrak corner a 3' or 4'?
 
 
 
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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Mike & Linda LaCasse' lacasse@... [AlbanyNTRAK]"
Date: 11/26/17 8:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Glens Falls show
 
 
Hi Geoff, I will bring the  diamond double corner, 8’ of narrow spacing modules ,2 1’ adapter modules ( narrow to wide track spacing ) and two junctions. Mike LaCasse

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Re: Glens Falls show

john valachovic
 

Mike, is your Ntrak corner a 3' or 4'? 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Mike & Linda LaCasse' lacasse@... [AlbanyNTRAK]" <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Date: 11/26/17 8:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Glens Falls show

 

Hi Geoff, I will bring the  diamond double corner, 8’ of narrow spacing modules ,2 1’ adapter modules ( narrow to wide track spacing ) and two junctions. Mike LaCasse


Glens Falls show

lacasse
 

Hi Geoff, I will bring the  diamond double corner, 8’ of narrow spacing modules ,2 1’ adapter modules ( narrow to wide track spacing ) and two junctions. Mike LaCasse

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