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Ideas for the new corners

john valachovic
 

I have drawn up a design in AutoCAD showing an idea for the track
plan. It is posted in the files section. This will also give everyone
an idea of what can be done with layout design if everyones modules are
in CAD.

John


Re: corner modules

nycrr8
 

Mark,

I think that that is a great idea. It would also demonstrate to the
public that T-Trak is designed to "just sit on top of a table" rather
than require any special legs or capentry or what have have you.

Regards,

John Henry

--- In AlbanyNTRAK@..., KramF@... wrote:

Maybe we could develop some sort of leg extensions for a "banquet"
table so
that a standard folding table could be raised to the necessary height
and
leveled?


Re: corner modules

nycrr8
 

Maybe a fifth cirner module would be called for.

I don't remember the exact configuration, but I think that Mike LaCasse
has brought a two piece junction. 1 piece was the corner and the
second piece was the junction.

By the way, nuddffoeg, could you please add your name to either your
emails or member profile? I can not rememember email addresses that
don't resemble a name. Thanks.

Regards,

"John Henry"

John Henry Low

--- In AlbanyNTRAK@..., "nuddffoeg" <nuddffoeg@...> wrote:

My vote would be to NOT make the corners into junctions. Having them
be junctions does two things - it makes them not fit the N-Trak
standard for track radius, and (from what I read in other discussions)
it makes them not usable for our normal 4-track around layouts.

It sounds like others are taking care of buying things. I'll pitch in
funds now or in January.

As for the wiring, should we re-use the wires on the existing corners?

And what will we do with the old 4' corners?


Re: corner modules

Mark Fleischhauer
 

Maybe we could develop some sort of leg extensions for a "banquet" table so that a standard folding table could be raised to the necessary height and leveled?


Re: corner modules

john valachovic
 

The junction modules would have the orange line break away not he red,
so this would still allow the four track main.

Geoff if a base was made for the t-trak modules to sit on instead a
banquet table would that work?

I visualize a base that has the red line permenantly affixed and the t-
trak's fit in behind as the yellow and blue.


Re: corner modules

eleser2002 <leser8@...>
 

I like the idea of the option of bend track but if it is going to
cause a 'standards' issue I would like to see more info on the
subject. A quick check on the Bend Track site shows a straight
junction modual of 6 feet, witch meens more to carry and store. Ouch
my aching back.

If the T-Trak adapter gets the young people involved I'm all for it.

In the past I've asked about the mountian division. The more I think
about it the optional blue line seems like a better choice for us. As
an example, it would be easyer to merge an optional blue line into
Mike's yard moduals than mountian division.

I funds are needed now I'll write a check to somebody if they need it.

--- In AlbanyNTRAK@..., "nuddffoeg" <nuddffoeg@...> wrote:

My vote would be to NOT make the corners into junctions. Having them
be junctions does two things - it makes them not fit the N-Trak
standard for track radius, and (from what I read in other discussions)
it makes them not usable for our normal 4-track around layouts.

It sounds like others are taking care of buying things. I'll pitch in
funds now or in January.

As for the wiring, should we re-use the wires on the existing corners?

And what will we do with the old 4' corners?


T-Trak adapter module

nuddffoeg <nuddffoeg@...>
 

I have nearly finished an adapter module that will let us go from the
outer main to T-Trak modules forming a "T" with the main N-Trak
layout. My plan is that it will be reversible, so the T-Trak modules
can go inside or outside the main layout.

This does several things.

It makes everything one big layout.

It keeps my son somewhat involved and interested, since he has a
T-Trak module but not an N-Trak module.

It will allow us to use the T-Trak modules as a setup area, which will
be useful until Mike Lacasse gets off the weekend shift and comes back
with his yard modules.

It may hinder the use of the outer main for DCC from an operational
standpoint, although I don't think there is anything electrical that
will be a problem.

I plan to put it into the Kingston layout this Sunday (the paint and
glue should be dry!) as just a 2' module, and I'll try connecting
T-Trak modules at the PCC show in a week and a half.

One challenge will be to bring the "banquet" table height up to a
level where the T-Trak modules can connect to the N-Trak 40" layout
height.


Re: corner modules

nuddffoeg <nuddffoeg@...>
 

My vote would be to NOT make the corners into junctions. Having them
be junctions does two things - it makes them not fit the N-Trak
standard for track radius, and (from what I read in other discussions)
it makes them not usable for our normal 4-track around layouts.

It sounds like others are taking care of buying things. I'll pitch in
funds now or in January.

As for the wiring, should we re-use the wires on the existing corners?

And what will we do with the old 4' corners?


Re: corner modules

nycrr8
 

Doug,

At Poughkeepsie and Kingston (and maybe other shows, we sometimes ran
a "two track" branch line off one of Mike Lacasse's corner/junction
modules.

At the end of the "two track" branch line was a Bend Track end loop
(two track main line). Then we had a Bend Track to N Trak adapter
which connects Red and Orange lines to the front of the Bend Track
module and Yellow and Blue lines to the back of the Bend Track module
(s). Then there were one or several N Trak modules, all with
orange. This connected to the junction module, which connected the
branch to the main layout and also served as a corner module for the
rectangular main layout.

The junction was configured so that the Orange line ran completely
into the branch line (all the time). Red line had two turnouts on
the junction so that Red could be switched into (and out of) the
branch line, or left to continue around the main layout without going
into the branch line. This allowed for operating flexibility in the
branch line.

That configuration has served us well and should work for future Bend
Track branch lines. I suppose it would also work with a One Track
branch line, should we ever have one. Obviously it would not work
for a tradional rectangular layout with NO branch lines.

Regards,

John Henry

--- In AlbanyNTRAK@..., "Doug Dederick" <ddederic@...>
wrote:

Brain Thank you for helping out and yes we are building two. We
may also
need 4 rights and 4 left turnouts depending on the group decision
on
transition capability. Please keep all receipts and bring them to
the
meeting in Jan. Thanks again
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce" <tftr1@...>
To: <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Re: corner modules


Doug,
I'll get the track & wire. I picked up five
pieces of flex track and cork roadbed at J.P.'s
today, and have some speaker wire. Just to
confirm how much I'll need to buy, are we making
two modules?

Brian Hilgenberg

----- Original Message -----
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To: <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Digest Number 8


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1. Corner modules
Posted by: "ddederic" ddederic@...
ddederic
Date: Mon Nov 6, 2006 6:28 pm (PST)

Hi,

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. John and I
drove out to Syracuse
to the train show and had a great day. We were
able to check out a
few 3 foot corners other clubs had at the show.
We also sent up a
date for John and I to start contstruction. We
will be fronting the
money for the framing materials. We were also
looking for one or two
volunters to purchase the track bed, track, and
wiring for the mods.
At the January meeting we will tally all the
costs and divide it among
the group.

We also talked about making the corner modules
capable of being a
junction mod. This would be on the orange line.
This would give us a
great deal of flexibility on layouts.

Please give us your thoughts on this.

Doug




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correction

Doug Dederick
 

I called them trainsision mods but I ment juction mods it's been a
long day! Thanks Doug


supplies for mods

Doug Dederick
 

Brain H. has offered to pick up track and wiring for the corner mods.
Thanks Brain. We still need to hear from the group on making the
corner mods capable of being transition corners. Thanks everyone

Doug and John


Re: corner modules

Doug Dederick
 

Brain Thank you for helping out and yes we are building two. We may also need 4 rights and 4 left turnouts depending on the group decision on transition capability. Please keep all receipts and bring them to the meeting in Jan. Thanks again

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce" <tftr1@...>
To: <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Re: corner modules


Doug,
I'll get the track & wire. I picked up five
pieces of flex track and cork roadbed at J.P.'s
today, and have some speaker wire. Just to
confirm how much I'll need to buy, are we making
two modules?

Brian Hilgenberg

----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
To: <AlbanyNTRAK@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Digest Number 8


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Posted by: "ddederic" ddederic@...
ddederic
Date: Mon Nov 6, 2006 6:28 pm (PST)

Hi,

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. John and I
drove out to Syracuse
to the train show and had a great day. We were
able to check out a
few 3 foot corners other clubs had at the show.
We also sent up a
date for John and I to start contstruction. We
will be fronting the
money for the framing materials. We were also
looking for one or two
volunters to purchase the track bed, track, and
wiring for the mods.
At the January meeting we will tally all the
costs and divide it among
the group.

We also talked about making the corner modules
capable of being a
junction mod. This would be on the orange line.
This would give us a
great deal of flexibility on layouts.

Please give us your thoughts on this.

Doug




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Re: corner modules

Joyce <tftr1@...>
 

Doug,
I'll get the track & wire. I picked up five pieces of flex track and cork roadbed at J.P.'s today, and have some speaker wire. Just to confirm how much I'll need to buy, are we making two modules?

Brian Hilgenberg

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Posted by: "ddederic" ddederic@... ddederic
Date: Mon Nov 6, 2006 6:28 pm (PST)

Hi,

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. John and I drove out to Syracuse
to the train show and had a great day. We were able to check out a
few 3 foot corners other clubs had at the show. We also sent up a
date for John and I to start contstruction. We will be fronting the
money for the framing materials. We were also looking for one or two
volunters to purchase the track bed, track, and wiring for the mods.
At the January meeting we will tally all the costs and divide it among
the group.

We also talked about making the corner modules capable of being a
junction mod. This would be on the orange line. This would give us a
great deal of flexibility on layouts.

Please give us your thoughts on this.

Doug




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Corner modules

Doug Dederick
 

Hi,

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. John and I drove out to Syracuse
to the train show and had a great day. We were able to check out a
few 3 foot corners other clubs had at the show. We also sent up a
date for John and I to start contstruction. We will be fronting the
money for the framing materials. We were also looking for one or two
volunters to purchase the track bed, track, and wiring for the mods.
At the January meeting we will tally all the costs and divide it among
the group.

We also talked about making the corner modules capable of being a
junction mod. This would be on the orange line. This would give us a
great deal of flexibility on layouts.

Please give us your thoughts on this.

Doug


Re: Corner module construction

leser8@...
 

With the mountian division there is a possability of running DCC with out interfering with the blue, yellow, red and orange.
  Just food for thought.
                                 Ed
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nycrr8@...
To: AlbanyNTRAK@...
Sent: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: [AlbanyNTRAK] Re: Corner module construction

I think that Ed's suggestion for the mountain division
is an excellent one.

I realize that we have mixed feelings about the
mountain division, but since there are a few members
using it (not me, at least for now), by including the
mountain division on club corners, that would permit
having the mountain division at least stretch along a
side or two at those shows where members like Ed,
Geoff, Neil or Mike bring modules with the mountain
divsion. If no one else brings mountain division
modules, the corners with mounttain division would
help break up scenes if nothing else.

We should definitely stick to the "four track
mainline" look of the stadard blue, yellow, red and
orange, since we do use the double dog loop approach
at least once or twice a year. I hope to be "back in
the game" with a bend track end loop by Kingston 2007
or Poughkeepsie 2008.

Regards,

John Henry

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Re: Corner module construction

nycrr8
 

I think that Ed's suggestion for the mountain division
is an excellent one.

I realize that we have mixed feelings about the
mountain division, but since there are a few members
using it (not me, at least for now), by including the
mountain division on club corners, that would permit
having the mountain division at least stretch along a
side or two at those shows where members like Ed,
Geoff, Neil or Mike bring modules with the mountain
divsion. If no one else brings mountain division
modules, the corners with mounttain division would
help break up scenes if nothing else.

We should definitely stick to the "four track
mainline" look of the stadard blue, yellow, red and
orange, since we do use the double dog loop approach
at least once or twice a year. I hope to be "back in
the game" with a bend track end loop by Kingston 2007
or Poughkeepsie 2008.

Regards,

John Henry

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New corners

Joyce <tftr1@...>
 

Hi, all.
As for new corners, I feel the four main lines are a "must have". The mountain division would be a nice addition, as there are a couple of members who would want it and it would give us the opportunity to make the scenery a little more "3-D".

As far as structures go, I'd like to recycle the farm scene on the 4' corner if at all possible as it's a nice scene. I also have an Atlas station kit with platforms. If I recall correctly, John. V. gave these to me a few years back for use on a module. That would take care of scenes for two corners. I'm sure I also have some other structures I can spare.

I have enough scrap syrofoam to probably cover the scenery for a corner or two. In addition, I've got a couple of boxes of old trees I got at the GTE years ago. A little work with glue and ground foam..


Brian Hilgenberg


Re: Corner module construction

eleser2002 <leser8@...>
 

I like the orange, red, yellow and blue for the fact that we can have
a small double dog bone layout if the end loops are avelable like we
had in Fishkill.
Is the mountian division being considered?
I have power poles and will be converting my modules over to them. The
firt conversons will be my reversable corners, adapters will be made
from the cinch jones connectors removed.
I have no opnion on the optional blue line.

--- In AlbanyNTRAK@..., "albanymain" <albanymain@...> wrote:

Doug and I are discussing a schedule to construct the modules. We
should start getting an idea of what else is needed to construct the
modules beside lumber and members should start getting together to
divvie up the labor or one person (not me) could get everything, either
way we need to total up the complete costs and then figure out how much
everyone needs to contribute.

Also we need to reach a consensus on track configuration, I would
assume everyone wants orange, red, yellow and blue. Do we want to
include optional blue? I would assume we will continue to use cinch
jones connectors or do we want to use power pole and make some power
pole to cinch jones adapters? Also give some thought to the idea of
scenery and structures. The cast resin buildings sold at the shows are
nicely done, easily painted and affordable.


Corner module construction

john valachovic
 

Doug and I are discussing a schedule to construct the modules. We
should start getting an idea of what else is needed to construct the
modules beside lumber and members should start getting together to
divvie up the labor or one person (not me) could get everything, either
way we need to total up the complete costs and then figure out how much
everyone needs to contribute.

Also we need to reach a consensus on track configuration, I would
assume everyone wants orange, red, yellow and blue. Do we want to
include optional blue? I would assume we will continue to use cinch
jones connectors or do we want to use power pole and make some power
pole to cinch jones adapters? Also give some thought to the idea of
scenery and structures. The cast resin buildings sold at the shows are
nicely done, easily painted and affordable.

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