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Re: ASSL '80: Games #1 and #2 Play File

Steven Galbraith
 

I would suggest reloading his lineup for the game with Jackson. With injuries off he won't get an AIM injury.

But we'll wait for Max to respond. You can just cancel the game and wait for his response.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 8:12:28 PM EDT, Kevin McNally <kmcnally28@...> wrote:


Reggie Jackson is in Czech’s starting lineup, but is AIM substituted out since he’s Tired.

 

Just wanted to clarify how to proceed.

 

Mudville

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Galbraith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:04 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL '80: Games #1 and #2 Play File

 

Playoff c-file for Games #1 and 2. Bayou City and Mudville hosts the opening games. Please play one game at a time, send in the results to your opponent and me; and then wait for your opponent's go ahead for the next game. If you want to play live head-to-head, go ahead. Whichever method you want is fine.

Good luck.

Re: ASSL '80: Games #1 and #2 Play File

Kevin McNally
 

Reggie Jackson is in Czech’s starting lineup, but is AIM substituted out since he’s Tired.

 

Just wanted to clarify how to proceed.

 

Mudville

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Galbraith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:04 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL '80: Games #1 and #2 Play File

 

Playoff c-file for Games #1 and 2. Bayou City and Mudville hosts the opening games. Please play one game at a time, send in the results to your opponent and me; and then wait for your opponent's go ahead for the next game. If you want to play live head-to-head, go ahead. Whichever method you want is fine.

Good luck.

ASSL '80: Games #1 and #2 Play File

Steven Galbraith
 

Playoff c-file for Games #1 and 2. Bayou City and Mudville hosts the opening games. Please play one game at a time, send in the results to your opponent and me; and then wait for your opponent's go ahead for the next game. If you want to play live head-to-head, go ahead. Whichever method you want is fine.

Good luck.

Re: ASSL '80: Post Season: Need Czech Playoff File Czech file

Max Tracy
 

Czech Bouncers F File.  Thanks Steve.

Sincerely, Max

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:31 AM Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Once I get that we can start up.

ASSL '80: Post Season: Need Czech Playoff File

Steven Galbraith
 

Once I get that we can start up.

Re: ASSL '80: Post Season Setup Fix/Corrected with Steal Ratings

John Anderson
 



On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 06:38:09 PM CDT, Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:


My mistake: I forgot to adjust back the base stealers who had exceeded their regular season limits and had them zeroed out.  So, please load this file. If you've sent in your f-file there's no need to re-send them.

Re: ASSL '80: Post Season Setup Fix/Corrected with Steal Ratings

Steven Galbraith
 

For the playoff teams: Just drop your players that you're not keeping on the 26 roster into the undrafted group. There isn't a farm organization.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 7:38:09 PM EDT, Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:


My mistake: I forgot to adjust back the base stealers who had exceeded their regular season limits and had them zeroed out.  So, please load this file. If you've sent in your f-file there's no need to re-send them.

ASSL '80: Post Season Setup Fix/Corrected with Steal Ratings

Steven Galbraith
 

My mistake: I forgot to adjust back the base stealers who had exceeded their regular season limits and had them zeroed out.  So, please load this file. If you've sent in your f-file there's no need to re-send them.

ASSL '80: Post Season Setup for Bayou City, Melonville, Mudville and Czech

Steven Galbraith
 

Here's the post season setup file for the first series: Bayou City and Melonville, the two wildcards, play a best of seven while division winners Czech and Mudville play the other semi-finals, also a best-of-seven. We use a 2-3-2 format. Silver City gets a bye. The files are in both c-file and backup format. Either should load fine.

I need the 26 man rosters and Game #1 files from each playoff team except Silver City for this series. Once I get them I'll send out a play file and we can start.

Good luck.

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
 

If I were to push for something to consider this offseason, I would go with pace of play. We started the 1980 season right around the first of June, so we took almost 11 months to play a six-month season. I don’t remember other seasons taking that long.

 

 

==

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Galbraith via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:50 AM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

 

You were just +13 at home versus +22 on the road. And 24-26 against East teams including 3-7 against Silver City and 4-6 against Polish.

 

Yes, we need an unbalanced schedule but it's tough to work out. As in: 18 games intra division equals 90 (5x18) then six games each against the other 12 teams (6x12 is 72) equals 162. I think 18 is too much but it works out. Lots of three game series though.

 

On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 10:40:10 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:

 

 

This Harpers Ferry team was the best team I’ve had to not make a modern-day playoff setup. I’ve had 100-win teams not make it, but those were in J-Rob before Divisional play. I didn’t think I could miss the post-season with a rotation that went 18-16-15-13, but that’s how it goes. The other teams in the division were stacked as well. Plus, I won the league with an 82-win team two years ago, so things balance out. Or maybe I still owe the baseball gods for that one.

 

I like the idea of an unbalanced schedule if the numbers work out easy enough. If we are eliminating divisions, though, are we talking one giant 18-team league, or two 9-team leagues with no interleague play?

 

==

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Battiato via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:57 PM
To:
ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

 

Okay. However, my suggestion was that we might consider keeping the divisions, but that we play more games with ones divisional opponents than with the teams outside the division, just as MLB does. I suggested one set of numbers that easily comes out to 162, but it can be adjusted.

 

Do you also oppose that idea, and if so, could you explain why? Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <
Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <
ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <
Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <
ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <
Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <
ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <
andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <
ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.

John Anderson

 


On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via
groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:

A question that I've always wondered about:

 

1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.

 

So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 

 

I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)

 

2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.

 

3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.

 

Tom

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via
groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <
assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.

 

From the constitution:

 

                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP

1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.

A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.

B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Thomas Battiato
 

I would not want leagues that don't have interdivisional play, as I would never see half the players. I want at least a few games against everyione every year. If we had two nine team leagues, we could play 12 inside the division and 8 outside for 164. Just change two teams outside that division to 7 to arrive at 162.

With three six teams divisions, playing 18 games inside the division and 6 outside works out perfectly to 162. We could have one home series of six games and one of three to reduce the number of series needed.

Another alternative with three divisions would be 14 games inside the division and 8 games outside the division. That comes out to 156, then one extra game could be played against six teams to reach 162.

I'm sure there are many other combinations that could be considered if the league votes to pursue this. 

At this point I am simply proposing that we vote on having an unbalanced schedule or not. If that passes we can decide how many games later.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Umpy <umpy@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>; Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you have 2 9 team leagues, someone is off (Bye) every set.   Need something different.  
On April 23, 2020 at 10:40 AM "Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)" <strovel@...> wrote:

This Harpers Ferry team was the best team I’ve had to not make a modern-day playoff setup. I’ve had 100-win teams not make it, but those were in J-Rob before Divisional play. I didn’t think I could miss the post-season with a rotation that went 18-16-15-13, but that’s how it goes. The other teams in the division were stacked as well. Plus, I won the league with an 82-win team two years ago, so things balance out. Or maybe I still owe the baseball gods for that one.
 
I like the idea of an unbalanced schedule if the numbers work out easy enough. If we are eliminating divisions, though, are we talking one giant 18-team league, or two 9-team leagues with no interleague play?
 
==
 
From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Battiato via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:57 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards
 
Okay. However, my suggestion was that we might consider keeping the divisions, but that we play more games with ones divisional opponents than with the teams outside the division, just as MLB does. I suggested one set of numbers that easily comes out to 162, but it can be adjusted.
 
Do you also oppose that idea, and if so, could you explain why? Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards
I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards
Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards
I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.
John Anderson
 

On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:
A question that I've always wondered about:
 
1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.
 
So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 
 
I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)
 
2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.
 
3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.
 
Tom
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards
Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.
 
From the constitution:
 
                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP
1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.
A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.
B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Umpy
 

If you have 2 9 team leagues, someone is off (Bye) every set.   Need something different.  

On April 23, 2020 at 10:40 AM "Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)" <strovel@...> wrote:

This Harpers Ferry team was the best team I’ve had to not make a modern-day playoff setup. I’ve had 100-win teams not make it, but those were in J-Rob before Divisional play. I didn’t think I could miss the post-season with a rotation that went 18-16-15-13, but that’s how it goes. The other teams in the division were stacked as well. Plus, I won the league with an 82-win team two years ago, so things balance out. Or maybe I still owe the baseball gods for that one.

 

I like the idea of an unbalanced schedule if the numbers work out easy enough. If we are eliminating divisions, though, are we talking one giant 18-team league, or two 9-team leagues with no interleague play?

 

==

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Battiato via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:57 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

 

Okay. However, my suggestion was that we might consider keeping the divisions, but that we play more games with ones divisional opponents than with the teams outside the division, just as MLB does. I suggested one set of numbers that easily comes out to 162, but it can be adjusted.

 

Do you also oppose that idea, and if so, could you explain why? Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.

John Anderson

 


On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:

A question that I've always wondered about:

 

1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.

 

So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 

 

I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)

 

2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.

 

3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.

 

Tom

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.

 

From the constitution:

 

                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP

1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.

A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.

B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Steven Galbraith
 

You were just +13 at home versus +22 on the road. And 24-26 against East teams including 3-7 against Silver City and 4-6 against Polish.

Yes, we need an unbalanced schedule but it's tough to work out. As in: 18 games intra division equals 90 (5x18) then six games each against the other 12 teams (6x12 is 72) equals 162. I think 18 is too much but it works out. Lots of three game series though.

On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 10:40:10 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


This Harpers Ferry team was the best team I’ve had to not make a modern-day playoff setup. I’ve had 100-win teams not make it, but those were in J-Rob before Divisional play. I didn’t think I could miss the post-season with a rotation that went 18-16-15-13, but that’s how it goes. The other teams in the division were stacked as well. Plus, I won the league with an 82-win team two years ago, so things balance out. Or maybe I still owe the baseball gods for that one.

 

I like the idea of an unbalanced schedule if the numbers work out easy enough. If we are eliminating divisions, though, are we talking one giant 18-team league, or two 9-team leagues with no interleague play?

 

==

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Battiato via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:57 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

 

Okay. However, my suggestion was that we might consider keeping the divisions, but that we play more games with ones divisional opponents than with the teams outside the division, just as MLB does. I suggested one set of numbers that easily comes out to 162, but it can be adjusted.

 

Do you also oppose that idea, and if so, could you explain why? Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.

John Anderson

 


On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:

A question that I've always wondered about:

 

1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.

 

So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 

 

I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)

 

2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.

 

3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.

 

Tom

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.

 

From the constitution:

 

                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP

1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.

A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.

B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
 

This Harpers Ferry team was the best team I’ve had to not make a modern-day playoff setup. I’ve had 100-win teams not make it, but those were in J-Rob before Divisional play. I didn’t think I could miss the post-season with a rotation that went 18-16-15-13, but that’s how it goes. The other teams in the division were stacked as well. Plus, I won the league with an 82-win team two years ago, so things balance out. Or maybe I still owe the baseball gods for that one.

 

I like the idea of an unbalanced schedule if the numbers work out easy enough. If we are eliminating divisions, though, are we talking one giant 18-team league, or two 9-team leagues with no interleague play?

 

==

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Battiato via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:57 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

 

Okay. However, my suggestion was that we might consider keeping the divisions, but that we play more games with ones divisional opponents than with the teams outside the division, just as MLB does. I suggested one set of numbers that easily comes out to 162, but it can be adjusted.

 

Do you also oppose that idea, and if so, could you explain why? Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.

John Anderson

 


On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:

A question that I've always wondered about:

 

1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.

 

So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 

 

I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)

 

2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.

 

3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.

 

Tom

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.

 

From the constitution:

 

                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP

1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.

A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.

B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.

 

 

 

 

 

 

New files uploaded to ASSL@groups.io

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ASSL 1980 season results with boxes.

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ASSL '80: Full Season Files

Steven Galbraith
 


ASSL 1980 full season results with boxes. Delete farms rosters before loading/restoring. In c-file and backup formats. These will go to the archives

ASSL '80: Week/Series #34 Results File

Steven Galbraith
 

Final week/series results c-file attached.

The playoff/post season teams are: wildcard winners Bayou City and Melonville along with division winners Silver City, Czech and Mudville. Silver City, with the best overall record, gets a first round bye. Playoff file will be out shortly.

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

John Anderson
 

Since you didn't use any commas or periods it was hard to tell.

John Anderson

On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

that

Re: ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Mike Eliyas
 

No one did I did


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Where did anyone propose to add playoff teams?  

John Anderson 


On Apr 19, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...> wrote:


I am just not convinced it will improve things now if you want to add playoff teams I can go for that anything that includes no divisions I am against


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Why, Mike? Please explain to help me understand your reasons. Thank you!


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Eliyas via groups.io <Eliyas@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

I am against both ideas


-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson via groups.io <andjohn1961@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards


If you play an unbalanced schedule determining the wild cards has the same problem.  You're comparing the records of teams who played different schedules.  Better to eliminate divisions.

John Anderson


On Apr 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:

A question that I've always wondered about:

1. We play as balanced a schedule as possible to get to 162, with everyone playing 9 teams x 10 games (90) each, and 8 teams x 9 games each (72). It doesn't matter whether or not a team is in our division.

So why do we even have divisions? Why not let the five best teams into the post-season? 

I don't understand why Harper's Ferry, which is going to finish plus or minus five games ahead of Czech, but is not in the playoffs. The better team is punished because of the other teams in its division are great. Czech is only in playoffs because the teams in his division are worse, even though it won quite a bit fewer games against than Harper's Ferry against an identical schedule. (Not singling out either of these tems, they just happen to be the teams in the bubble teams this year.)

2. I think that if we are going to continue with 3 divisions that the schedule should reflect that. Play the 5 teams in our division x 18 (90), the 12 non-division teams x 6 (72) = 162. Then a division championship would really mean something because we played different schedules. Czech would deserve to be in instead of Harper's Ferry if they end up with the same records they did this year, but played completely different schedules.

3. So, I am making a proposed change for next year that we play an unbalanced schedule.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl <assl@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 9:18 am
Subject: [ASSL] ASSL: Post Season Teams Include Two Wildcards

Sorry, I should have made this clear so that the post seasons teams can better prepare. The league constitution/rules is in the groups file section.

From the constitution:

                          III - POSTSEASON SETUP
1) Each division winner plus the teams with the fourth and fifth best overall records (wildcards) will make the post-season.
A) The team with the best overall record will receive a first round bye. Meanwhile, the two wildcard winners play a best-of-seven. The remaining two teams – winners of the other two divisions - will play each other in the other semi-finals also in a best of seven.
B) The winner of the wildcard series will then face the team with the best overall record. The winner of the other semi-finals will play the winner of that series.






Re: ASSL: Florida v Czech

Thomas Battiato
 

Czech clinches the Central Division champioship by going 4-1. 

Mike Schmidt hit three home runs in game 161 to finish the season at 55. Reggie Jackson homered in the last three games but finished with 49, as the Bouncers just one short of having two 50 HR sluggers this season.

Bouncers 6, Manatees 3
Manatees 5, Bouncers  4
Bouncers 4, Manatees 2
Bouncers 8, Manatees 3
Bouncers 2, Manatees 0