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Re: Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

John Anderson
 

Thomas makes some excellent points with which I agree wholeheartedly.

John Anderson 


On May 29, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:


I completely agree with Steve on this. The smaller the roster, the more parity there is. The logic is simple to follow:

If we kept zero players, every team would start the season on an equal basis, only separated by draft order.

If we kept only one player, the best  team would not be that far apart from the worst, and everyone would still have an good chance to draft a winning team.

If teams only kept their five best players, there may begin a bit of separation, but still not much.

At ten players each, the depth of a couple teams would start to rise a bit above the rest of the field.

If we kept 20 players each, there are now significant differences in the quality of the players kept. The players kept in slots 11-20 would vary significantly in quality from the best teams to the worst.

At 30 players each, there are major differences, in present value and often in prospects for the future, which cannot be made up short of several years of fortuitous drafting and trading.

At 40 players, it would be far more difficult for the weaker teams to catch up, as there is plenty of room for the better teams to hoard every player of any value rather than release them to the draft. The weaker teams can use this pool of players to find the coverage needed at various positions.

Thus, I would be opposed to keeping all the players on a roster every year as it serves to reward the stronger teams.

Thank you for your consideration.

Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl@groups.io; assl@groups.io
Sent: Fri, May 29, 2020 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

C: I'm not sure where you get the less than 70 new players? Baseball Reference has 146 players making their debuts in 1981.

As to off season cuts: My view is that is helps parity (or can) by preventing a good team(s) from stashing too many players. If a weaker team is cutting a good/better future player to keep a coverage player then that's, well, dumb <g>. With innoc players and pitchers you can always grab a body late to give you coverage.

I really can't understand why a team lacks coverage. Unless the owner is just not caring after the first 2-3 rounds. With innoc and the bonus everyone should be able to get coverage. It may be lousy coverage but it's a body.

I think 30 gives a lot of wiggle room to both keep top players AND be able to stash a future player.

On Friday, May 29, 2020, 9:45:32 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

Re: Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

Thomas Battiato
 

I completely agree with Steve on this. The smaller the roster, the more parity there is. The logic is simple to follow:

If we kept zero players, every team would start the season on an equal basis, only separated by draft order.

If we kept only one player, the best  team would not be that far apart from the worst, and everyone would still have an good chance to draft a winning team.

If teams only kept their five best players, there may begin a bit of separation, but still not much.

At ten players each, the depth of a couple teams would start to rise a bit above the rest of the field.

If we kept 20 players each, there are now significant differences in the quality of the players kept. The players kept in slots 11-20 would vary significantly in quality from the best teams to the worst.

At 30 players each, there are major differences, in present value and often in prospects for the future, which cannot be made up short of several years of fortuitous drafting and trading.

At 40 players, it would be far more difficult for the weaker teams to catch up, as there is plenty of room for the better teams to hoard every player of any value rather than release them to the draft. The weaker teams can use this pool of players to find the coverage needed at various positions.

Thus, I would be opposed to keeping all the players on a roster every year as it serves to reward the stronger teams.

Thank you for your consideration.

Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: assl@groups.io; assl@groups.io
Sent: Fri, May 29, 2020 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ASSL] Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

C: I'm not sure where you get the less than 70 new players? Baseball Reference has 146 players making their debuts in 1981.

As to off season cuts: My view is that is helps parity (or can) by preventing a good team(s) from stashing too many players. If a weaker team is cutting a good/better future player to keep a coverage player then that's, well, dumb <g>. With innoc players and pitchers you can always grab a body late to give you coverage.

I really can't understand why a team lacks coverage. Unless the owner is just not caring after the first 2-3 rounds. With innoc and the bonus everyone should be able to get coverage. It may be lousy coverage but it's a body.

I think 30 gives a lot of wiggle room to both keep top players AND be able to stash a future player.

On Friday, May 29, 2020, 9:45:32 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

Re: Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
 

Brain fart. I did a spreadsheet of what I thought were the 81 rookies from BBRef, and now that I look at it, I have rookies from a spread of five different years. No idea how that happened, or why I was too dumb to catch it.

I am still a fan of no pre-draft cuts, but the argument for such is kinda, er,.... blunted by my spreadsheet foibles.

==

On May 29, 2020 at 12:58 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

 
C: I'm not sure where you get the less than 70 new players? Baseball Reference has 146 players making their debuts in 1981.

As to off season cuts: My view is that is helps parity (or can) by preventing a good team(s) from stashing too many players. If a weaker team is cutting a good/better future player to keep a coverage player then that's, well, dumb <g>. With innoc players and pitchers you can always grab a body late to give you coverage.

I really can't understand why a team lacks coverage. Unless the owner is just not caring after the first 2-3 rounds. With innoc and the bonus everyone should be able to get coverage. It may be lousy coverage but it's a body.

I think 30 gives a lot of wiggle room to both keep top players AND be able to stash a future player.

On Friday, May 29, 2020, 9:45:32 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

 

Re: Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

Steven Galbraith
 

C: I'm not sure where you get the less than 70 new players? Baseball Reference has 146 players making their debuts in 1981.

As to off season cuts: My view is that is helps parity (or can) by preventing a good team(s) from stashing too many players. If a weaker team is cutting a good/better future player to keep a coverage player then that's, well, dumb <g>. With innoc players and pitchers you can always grab a body late to give you coverage.

I really can't understand why a team lacks coverage. Unless the owner is just not caring after the first 2-3 rounds. With innoc and the bonus everyone should be able to get coverage. It may be lousy coverage but it's a body.

I think 30 gives a lot of wiggle room to both keep top players AND be able to stash a future player.

On Friday, May 29, 2020, 9:45:32 AM EDT, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

Re: Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

John Anderson
 

And teams sometimes draft coverage players with no further value that they don’t need.  Why?

John Anderson 


On May 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...> wrote:


Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

Draft thoughts/roster cutbacks

Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
 

Looking at the 1981 crop of rookies, there are less than 70 new players, so we will be drafting recycled players pretty early in this one, maybe as early as the mid-2nd round. Being in the league only five seasons, I may have missed the disucssion, but has there every been a thought to eliminating the off-season roster cutbacks? We went through this discussion in J-Rob over the years, and my belief is that off-season roster cuts hurt parity. I know that's not universally agreed, but I think those cuts make it harder for the weaker teams to build for the future because they are forced to retain coverage in the short term, rather than build depth. Just two cents.....

==

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

robert arzberger
 

Cucamonga will be back and 162 is fine with me.  

Cheers, Robert

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd

ASSL: 1980s League Opening

Steven Galbraith
 

This is probably competition <g> but Paul Donati has two openings in his EBL league. Getting ready to draft for 1989. One team is very good and the other very bad.

Paul can be reached at:  paul.donati@...

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Bill P
 

This makes more sense. I agree.

On Thursday, May 21, 2020, 5:22:55 PM CDT, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <dodger300@...> wrote:



Playoffs like the NFL.
6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)
Top 2 teams get round 1 bye
Seeded by record
 

Kevin, 

I agree with your proposal. Please officially submit it to Steve and request a formal vote. "Suggestions" tend to get overlooked in ASSL.

The current system is completely nuts. Whichever team advances to the WS from the first round gets an extra 7-10 days so all its players are rested. The team that advances via the second round will have pitchers, and maybe even players, who are worn out or tired. 

It's a very unfair system.

Tom

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

John Anderson
 

I agree with Thomas.

John Anderson 


On May 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Thomas Battiato via groups.io <Dodger300@...> wrote:



Playoffs like the NFL.
6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)
Top 2 teams get round 1 bye
Seeded by record
 

Kevin, 

I agree with your proposal. Please officially submit it to Steve and request a formal vote. "Suggestions" tend to get overlooked in ASSL.

The current system is completely nuts. Whichever team advances to the WS from the first round gets an extra 7-10 days so all its players are rested. The team that advances via the second round will have pitchers, and maybe even players, who are worn out or tired. 

It's a very unfair system.

Tom

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Thomas Battiato
 


Playoffs like the NFL.
6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)
Top 2 teams get round 1 bye
Seeded by record
 

Kevin, 

I agree with your proposal. Please officially submit it to Steve and request a formal vote. "Suggestions" tend to get overlooked in ASSL.

The current system is completely nuts. Whichever team advances to the WS from the first round gets an extra 7-10 days so all its players are rested. The team that advances via the second round will have pitchers, and maybe even players, who are worn out or tired. 

It's a very unfair system.

Tom

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Scott Clark
 

Good work Kevin!  That suggested playoff format's much better than our current one!

Melonville



From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> on behalf of Kevin McNally <kmcnally28@...>
Sent: May 21, 2020 3:52 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c
 

Mudville votes for 162 and plans to return.

 

Confirm the traded/acquired Mudville picks, too.

 

Playoffs like the NFL.

6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)

Top 2 teams get round 1 bye

Seeded by record

 

Thanks,

Kevin

Mudville

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 12:25 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

 

If we started the draft today, I wouldn't pick until two weeks from now, anyway. ;)

 

I vote for playing 162.

 

My rule proposal is to compress the play deadlines so it doesn't take a year to play '81.

 

==

On May 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd


 

ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Scott Clark
 

Melonville's back and votes for 162.  I also agree on condensing sked so that we can play over 9-10 months.


Melonville






From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> on behalf of Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory) <strovel@...>
Sent: May 21, 2020 3:25 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c
 
If we started the draft today, I wouldn't pick until two weeks from now, anyway. ;)

I vote for playing 162.

My rule proposal is to compress the play deadlines so it doesn't take a year to play '81.

==
On May 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd


 

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

John Anderson
 

Bayou City will be back.  Vote for full season.

John Anderson 


On May 21, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:



Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Bill P
 

Cut and Shoot will be back and vote for a 162 game season.

On Thursday, May 21, 2020, 2:22:44 PM CDT, Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:


Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Thomas Battiato
 

Florida also votes for a 162 game season, and confirms that its traded draft picks are correct.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith@...>
To: ASSL@groups.io
Sent: Thu, May 21, 2020 3:22 pm
Subject: [Special] [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Jeff Heisterkamp
 

Waterloo is back and votes 162



From: "kmcnally28" <kmcnally28@...>
To: "ASSL" <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 2:52:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Mudville votes for 162 and plans to return.

 

Confirm the traded/acquired Mudville picks, too.

 

Playoffs like the NFL.

6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)

Top 2 teams get round 1 bye

Seeded by record

 

Thanks,

Kevin

Mudville

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 12:25 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

 

If we started the draft today, I wouldn't pick until two weeks from now, anyway. ;)

 

I vote for playing 162.

 

My rule proposal is to compress the play deadlines so it doesn't take a year to play '81.

 

==

On May 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd


 


Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Umpy
 

Seltzer back, and to steal a line from Ernie Banks, let's play 162.  OR something like that. 

On May 21, 2020 at 3:25 PM "Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)" <strovel@...> wrote:

If we started the draft today, I wouldn't pick until two weeks from now, anyway. ;)

I vote for playing 162.

My rule proposal is to compress the play deadlines so it doesn't take a year to play '81.

==
On May 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd


 

 

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Kevin McNally
 

Mudville votes for 162 and plans to return.

 

Confirm the traded/acquired Mudville picks, too.

 

Playoffs like the NFL.

6 teams (3 division winners, 3 wild card)

Top 2 teams get round 1 bye

Seeded by record

 

Thanks,

Kevin

Mudville

 

From: ASSL@groups.io <ASSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Strovel (Harpers Ferry Federal Armory)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 12:25 PM
To: ASSL@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

 

If we started the draft today, I wouldn't pick until two weeks from now, anyway. ;)

 

I vote for playing 162.

 

My rule proposal is to compress the play deadlines so it doesn't take a year to play '81.

 

==

On May 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM "Steven Galbraith via groups.io" <stevemgalbraith@...> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd


 

Re: ASSL '81: Draft Order &c

Mike Eliyas
 

Polish shall return 


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Alvin <salvin123@...>
To: ASSL <ASSL@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 21, 2020 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ASSL] ASSL '81: Draft Order &c


Mt. Lebanon will be back and votes for a full season.

Great league, Steve!

Take care,

Steve
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"I have snatched my share of joy from the grudging hand of fate as I have
jogged along, but never has life held for me anything quite so entrancing as
baseball."--Clarence Darrow


On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Galbraith via groups.io <stevemgalbraith=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Congrats to Silver City for repeating as champions for 1980. John's a very tough owner to compete against. And Kevin/Las Vegas, after a series of disappointing years, has moved to the top of the league. He'll be competing for the next few years.

I'm thinking of having at least 2-3 weeks off before starting the 1981 season. At least two if not more depending on what people want. I assume we'll want to play a full season and not the strike-shortened one? We may want to vote on that or not. Also, a few other suggestions regarding post season play will be proposed. More later.

The1981 Draft Order/Slots are as follows:
1. Hamilton
2. New Orleans
3. Florida
4. Cut and Shoot
5. Cascade
6. Waterloo
7. Polish
8. Valdosta
9. Spokane
10. Mt. Lebanon
11. Cucamonga
12. Seltzer
13. Czech
14. Harpers Ferry
15. Melonville
16. Bayou City
17. Mudville
18. Silver City

Also, I have this tentative list for traded picks for 1981. I believe there are a couple more. I have them listed in a file but, of course, I can't find the file right now.

Valdosta has Mudville's 1st
Mudville has Valdosta's 3rd
Florida has Czech's 1st
Florida has Mudville's 2nd
Mudville has Florida's 4th
Mudville has Harper Ferry's 1st
Cucamonga has Harper Ferry's 2nd