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Which Log is for the Data-Port?

KD7YZ Bob
 

I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
ARISS - International Space Station
----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS] KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Look for a Trace Log called Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it.  You should also see these in the IGate Trace Log if the correct options are chosen on the port configuration dialog to gate the received packets.  At least I think the name is IGate!  I don't have one running at the moment having switched my IGate over to APRSISMO.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/13/2019 8:32 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
 3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

 3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
ARISS - International Space Station
----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS] KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


Greg D
 

Lynn,

FYI, there's:

- IGate
- IGate(Filter)
- Igate(NOT)
- iGateEnabled

Greg KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

Look for a Trace Log called Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it. You
should also see these in the IGate Trace Log if the correct options
are chosen on the port configuration dialog to gate the received
packets. At least I think the name is IGate! I don't have one
running at the moment having switched my IGate over to APRSISMO.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/13/2019 8:32 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in
from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
ARISS - International Space Station
----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz
T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901




Randy Love
 

I think, tho, that he's asking if there's a log to show the packets that are being received from the port that he's defined as the Signalink port. 
Kinda like a live monitor window of incoming RF traffic.

I did that sometime back to monitor incoming traffic, but I don't recall which log it was.

Randy
WF5X


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:21 PM Greg D <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Lynn,

FYI, there's:

 - IGate
 - IGate(Filter)
 - Igate(NOT)
 - iGateEnabled

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:
> Look for a Trace Log called Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it.  You
> should also see these in the IGate Trace Log if the correct options
> are chosen on the port configuration dialog to gate the received
> packets.  At least I think the name is IGate!  I don't have one
> running at the moment having switched my IGate over to APRSISMO.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> On 11/13/2019 8:32 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
>> I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in
>> from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.
>>
>> However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>  3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
>> HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA
>>
>>  3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
>> >ARISS - International Space Station
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
>> and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.
>>
>> I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :
>>
>> 2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
>> KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz
>> T107 R25m KG4DVE/R
>>
>>
>> The AGWPE Setup is for
>>
>> Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
>> Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )
>>
>> which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.
>>
>> I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
>> Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.
>>
>> How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> 73
>> Bob KD7YZ
>> AMSAT LM #901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Greg D
 

There is a separate Port(xxxx) logging enable for every port that has been defined.  Enable the one you want, then enable the View Logs for that port, and you should see a new window open with the logging displayed in real time.

Greg  KO6TH


Randy Love wrote:

I think, tho, that he's asking if there's a log to show the packets that are being received from the port that he's defined as the Signalink port. 
Kinda like a live monitor window of incoming RF traffic.

I did that sometime back to monitor incoming traffic, but I don't recall which log it was.

Randy
WF5X


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:21 PM Greg D <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Lynn,

FYI, there's:

 - IGate
 - IGate(Filter)
 - Igate(NOT)
 - iGateEnabled

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:
> Look for a Trace Log called Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it.  You
> should also see these in the IGate Trace Log if the correct options
> are chosen on the port configuration dialog to gate the received
> packets.  At least I think the name is IGate!  I don't have one
> running at the moment having switched my IGate over to APRSISMO.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> On 11/13/2019 8:32 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
>> I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in
>> from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.
>>
>> However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>  3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
>> HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA
>>
>>  3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
>> >ARISS - International Space Station
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
>> and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.
>>
>> I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :
>>
>> 2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
>> KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz
>> T107 R25m KG4DVE/R
>>
>>
>> The AGWPE Setup is for
>>
>> Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
>> Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )
>>
>> which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.
>>
>> I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
>> Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.
>>
>> How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> 73
>> Bob KD7YZ
>> AMSAT LM #901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>





Glenn OConnor <kf0ed@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg D
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:21 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Which Log is for the Data-Port?

Lynn,

FYI, there's:

- IGate
- IGate(Filter)
- Igate(NOT)
- iGateEnabled

Greg KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:
Look for a Trace Log called Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it. You
should also see these in the IGate Trace Log if the correct options
are chosen on the port configuration dialog to gate the received
packets. At least I think the name is IGate! I don't have one
running at the moment having switched my IGate over to APRSISMO.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/13/2019 8:32 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in
from the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
ARISS - International Space Station
----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77
KG4DVE-1>Wr146.940MHz
T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901




Rob Giuliano
 

If you are using AGWpe to interface with the SignaLink, then the RF port would be of TYPE AGW.  WHat are you using to show the "AGWPE decode"?  AGWMonitor, AGWTerm, or something else?

Logging is in Menu >Enables >Logging then enable the desired options:
  Port(AGWpe) => or whatever you named it.
It should open a log window for each selected port.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 8:32:59 AM EST, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:


I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in from
the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
  3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

  3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
>ARISS - International Space Station

----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz
T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901



Rob Giuliano
 

Strange, I sent this message, and about 10 replies that weren't there before all showed up - with dates that should have already been in my inbox.Seems this had been answered.

Not sure if this is on Yahoo (my email) or groups.io.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 3:21:41 PM EST, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:


If you are using AGWpe to interface with the SignaLink, then the RF port would be of TYPE AGW.  WHat are you using to show the "AGWPE decode"?  AGWMonitor, AGWTerm, or something else?

Logging is in Menu >Enables >Logging then enable the desired options:
  Port(AGWpe) => or whatever you named it.
It should open a log window for each selected port.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 8:32:59 AM EST, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:


I do not see a way in APRSIS32 to read or see or log data coming in from
the SignaLink Soundcard which is plugged into the D710GA data port.

However, AGWPE can see it as here is a recent decode:

-------------------------------------------------------
  3:Fm BIRDMY To APTT4 Via WIDE1-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=50 >[03:15:55]
HELLO! THIS IS APRS-DIGIPEATER OF UiTMSAT-1 CUBESA

  3:Fm RS0ISS To CQ <UI pid=F0 Len=36 >[06:02:54]
>ARISS - International Space Station

----------------------------------------------------------------

I had hoped to iGate these back to wherever the Sat owners might read
and see their respective Birds were seen over Kentucky.

I have Packets Log turned on. But they are all APRS-IS , typically :

2019-11-13T13:06:26.952 IS[APRS-IS]
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAS,KG4DVE:;146.94-TR*111111z3823.97N/08239.77Wr146.940MHz
T107 R25m KG4DVE/R


The AGWPE Setup is for

Microphone (23- USB Audio CODEC )
Speakers (23- USB Audio CODEC )

which IS the SignaLink plugged into the Data Port.

I had CH-B/Band-B tuned to 145.825 and the decodes came from that.
Thus I see the D710GA IS decoding stuff off the data port. Or ?.

How would I gather those decodes and iGate them from APRSIS32?

Thank you.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901



KD7YZ Bob
 

On 11/13/2019 15:21, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:
If you are using AGWpe to interface with the SignaLink, then the RF port would be of TYPE AGW.  WHat are you using to show the "AGWPE decode"? AGWMonitor, AGWTerm, or something else?
Thanks numerous helpful replies though My Thunderbird never got Lynn's
reply; go figure.

I use AGWPE the paid version thereof, Packet Engine Pro.
It allows me to define any soundcard.

I was using UISS to gather the AGW Telnet output and display same .... though I can see either Individual AGW ports I've define OR I can see the ALL PORTS tab also on Packet Engine Pro.

So I created an AGWPE/Packet-Engine-Pro port off the SignaLink Soundcard TX and RX definitions.

In APRSIS32 I see where I can define an AGW Port.

I do NOT find a way in APRSIS32 to create a port from a "Device" such as LINE#1/VAC#1 which comes out of SDR-Console.
I didn't find a way to Directly have APRIS32 look at the output of the SignaLink's Soundcard, which appears in Device Manger under Sound/vid/game as USB Audio Codec.

SO ... I have external Data on the D710GA set to Band or channel, "B:"

Turns out this appears then in the output 'Data Socket' of the D710GA..... readable by the program APRSIS32 ... butttt, sometimes there's garbage which appears to me to be some internal commands from one thing or the other.

Though in my first email u can see the decoded Sats telemetry ... and only one radio was connected to that 145.825 frequency //// CH-B

As there is no APRSIS32 "Port" defined for CH-B, there are no "View" items for me to see; and there appears no way to tell iGate to seek meaningful data from the D710GA's right-side display (145.825). And I call it CH-b

This all my be related to an ongoing issue with either the PKT or the APRS Ports I try to make, in APRSIS32.

Sometime, maybe today or maybe in the morning, the SSID box is blank and my "Home" icon is missing too. See screen shots jpgs, if I am able to send jpgs here otherwise tell me how rto send them please. I have the before and after's.

Tnx all the help guys.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901

Rob Giuliano
 

Now I am totally confused.

The port definitions you show are ports for the D710's "built in TNC", not AGW.
    APRSIS32 has 2 ways of connecting to the serial TNC interface of the D710 (head via PG-5G cable or equivilent).  One is PKT and the other APRS. The difference is in the state of the radio when APRSIS32 connects, and the commands sent.  You will need to review the D710 information on the WIKI for how each works, but I know one of these port types has an issue with the callsign-ssid of the radio vs APRSIS32.  That is most likely what you are seeing in the pictures witha callsig n-ssid in one and not the other.
    I am quite certain that when using the head TNC port, only 1 side of the radio is connected to this internal TNC and thus sent to the attached computer running APRSIS32. 

You also appear to have the "data jack" (6-pin audio I/O and PTT) connected through the SignaLink and AGW.  Having both connected,  are you are using the radio for 2 different functions at the same time?  I am quite sure that the radio is not designed for this. 

There is no way to directly connect APRSIS32 to the sound card (SignLink or other).  APRSIS32 connects to TNCs (or at least serial data streams from them).  The function of AGWpe (or ther such software TNC/modems) is to take in the audio from the radio and decode the tones to turn it into a TNC data stream (software TNC).

You can connect APRSIS32 to AGW through an AGW port:
Example:
   Port Type:   AGW
  Port name:  D710_AGW
     <Create>
for Port Type pop up: TCP/IP
  IP or DNS:    LocalHost     (or your IP address of the compuiter running AGWpe)
           Port:    8000            (default)

I am no sure if you can connect the UISS application and APRSIS32 application at the same time, but I think the AGW protocol can handle it.  You will have to disable the Port(D710) ones you were using.  Using APRSIS32 with an AGW port will allow the data to be displayed from any stream, however, I am sure it can only TX on "stream zero" - first AGW port.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, November 14, 2019, 11:08:20 AM EST, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:


On 11/13/2019 15:21, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you are using AGWpe to interface with the SignaLink, then the RF port
> would be of TYPE AGW.  WHat are you using to show the "AGWPE decode"? 
> AGWMonitor, AGWTerm, or something else?
> Thanks numerous helpful replies though My Thunderbird never got Lynn's
reply; go figure.

I use AGWPE the paid version thereof, Packet Engine Pro.
It allows me to define any soundcard.

I was using UISS to gather the AGW Telnet output and display same ....
though I can see either Individual AGW ports I've define OR I can see
the ALL PORTS tab also on Packet Engine Pro.

So I created an AGWPE/Packet-Engine-Pro port off the SignaLink Soundcard
TX and RX definitions.

In APRSIS32 I see where I can define an AGW Port.

I do NOT find a way in APRSIS32 to create a port from a "Device" such as
LINE#1/VAC#1 which comes out of SDR-Console.
I didn't find a way to Directly have APRIS32 look at the output of the
SignaLink's Soundcard, which appears in Device Manger under
Sound/vid/game as USB Audio Codec.

SO ... I have external Data on the D710GA set to Band or channel, "B:"

Turns out this appears then in  the output  'Data Socket' of the
D710GA..... readable by the program APRSIS32 ... butttt, sometimes
there's garbage which appears to me to be some internal commands from
one thing or the other.

Though in my first email u can see the decoded Sats telemetry ... and
only one radio was connected to that 145.825 frequency //// CH-B

As there is no APRSIS32 "Port" defined for CH-B, there are no "View"
items for me to see; and there appears no way to tell iGate to seek
meaningful data from the D710GA's right-side display (145.825). And I
call it CH-b

This all my be related to an ongoing issue with either the PKT or the
APRS Ports I try to make, in APRSIS32.

Sometime, maybe today or maybe in the morning, the SSID box is blank and
my "Home" icon is missing too. See screen shots jpgs, if I am able to
send jpgs here otherwise tell me how rto send them please. I have the
before and after's.

Tnx all the help guys.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901



j.lineback
 

Some relevant input...

"You also appear to have the "data jack" (6-pin audio I/O and PTT) connected through the SignaLink and AGW.  Having both connected,  are you are using the radio for 2 different functions at the same time?  I am quite sure that the radio is not designed for this.

710 will happily run two functions.  Mine has a Kantronics KPC-3 Plus USB connected to the radio body’s DATA jack configured against Band B. 

Meanwhile, the good cable from RT Systems (or can be Kenwood’s own) is patched between the COMM port on the radio’s head and computer on Band A, utilizing Internal TNC.

She just sits there and successfully behaves like a pair of radios- and TNCs, doing two separate things, simultaneously, under a single PC running two softwares, with one antenna, and never complains.

73,
Jerry K4WOF


On Nov 14, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io <kb8rco@...> wrote:

Now I am totally confused.

The port definitions you show are ports for the D710's "built in TNC", not AGW.
    APRSIS32 has 2 ways of connecting to the serial TNC interface of the D710 (head via PG-5G cable or equivilent).  One is PKT and the other APRS. The difference is in the state of the radio when APRSIS32 connects, and the commands sent.  You will need to review the D710 information on the WIKI for how each works, but I know one of these port types has an issue with the callsign-ssid of the radio vs APRSIS32.  That is most likely what you are seeing in the pictures witha callsig n-ssid in one and not the other.
    I am quite certain that when using the head TNC port, only 1 side of the radio is connected to this internal TNC and thus sent to the attached computer running APRSIS32. 

You also appear to have the "data jack" (6-pin audio I/O and PTT) connected through the SignaLink and AGW.  Having both connected,  are you are using the radio for 2 different functions at the same time?  I am quite sure that the radio is not designed for this. 

There is no way to directly connect APRSIS32 to the sound card (SignLink or other).  APRSIS32 connects to TNCs (or at least serial data streams from them).  The function of AGWpe (or ther such software TNC/modems) is to take in the audio from the radio and decode the tones to turn it into a TNC data stream (software TNC).

You can connect APRSIS32 to AGW through an AGW port:
Example:
   Port Type:   AGW
  Port name:  D710_AGW
     <Create>
for Port Type pop up: TCP/IP
  IP or DNS:    LocalHost     (or your IP address of the compuiter running AGWpe)
           Port:    8000            (default)

I am no sure if you can connect the UISS application and APRSIS32 application at the same time, but I think the AGW protocol can handle it.  You will have to disable the Port(D710) ones you were using.  Using APRSIS32 with an AGW port will allow the data to be displayed from any stream, however, I am sure it can only TX on "stream zero" - first AGW port.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, November 14, 2019, 11:08:20 AM EST, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:


On 11/13/2019 15:21, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you are using AGWpe to interface with the SignaLink, then the RF port
> would be of TYPE AGW.  WHat are you using to show the "AGWPE decode"? 
> AGWMonitor, AGWTerm, or something else?
> Thanks numerous helpful replies though My Thunderbird never got Lynn's
reply; go figure.

I use AGWPE the paid version thereof, Packet Engine Pro.
It allows me to define any soundcard.

I was using UISS to gather the AGW Telnet output and display same ....
though I can see either Individual AGW ports I've define OR I can see
the ALL PORTS tab also on Packet Engine Pro.

So I created an AGWPE/Packet-Engine-Pro port off the SignaLink Soundcard
TX and RX definitions.

In APRSIS32 I see where I can define an AGW Port.

I do NOT find a way in APRSIS32 to create a port from a "Device" such as
LINE#1/VAC#1 which comes out of SDR-Console.
I didn't find a way to Directly have APRIS32 look at the output of the
SignaLink's Soundcard, which appears in Device Manger under
Sound/vid/game as USB Audio Codec.

SO ... I have external Data on the D710GA set to Band or channel, "B:"

Turns out this appears then in  the output  'Data Socket' of the
D710GA..... readable by the program APRSIS32 ... butttt, sometimes
there's garbage which appears to me to be some internal commands from
one thing or the other.

Though in my first email u can see the decoded Sats telemetry ... and
only one radio was connected to that 145.825 frequency //// CH-B

As there is no APRSIS32 "Port" defined for CH-B, there are no "View"
items for me to see; and there appears no way to tell iGate to seek
meaningful data from the D710GA's right-side display (145.825). And I
call it CH-b

This all my be related to an ongoing issue with either the PKT or the
APRS Ports I try to make, in APRSIS32.

Sometime, maybe today or maybe in the morning, the SSID box is blank and
my "Home" icon is missing too. See screen shots jpgs, if I am able to
send jpgs here otherwise tell me how rto send them please. I have the
before and after's.

Tnx all the help guys.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901




KD7YZ Bob
 

On 11/14/2019 18:08, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:

The port definitions you show are ports for the D710's "built in TNC", not AGW
True. I setup both APRS and Packet via APRSIS32's setup pre-caned D710 methods.

In AGWPE I used the Soundcard approach to see/read SignaLink's conn to DATA on the D710 back. This is then made available to APRSIS32 via an "AGW" Pre-Canned port I called 127.0.0.1:8000 but have used localhost too.

I also read that AGWPE MUST see the D710GA in Packet mode when first being activated. Took me long time to understand why I wasn't seeing AGW thru APRSIS32. (one of many manifestations of my lack of skill-sets with Packet/Kenwood/APRSIS32 interactions).

    I am quite certain that when using the head TNC port, only 1 side of the radio is connected to this internal TNC and thus sent to the attached computer running APRSIS32.
You also appear to have the "data jack" (6-pin audio I/O and PTT) connected through the SignaLink and AGW.  Having both connected,  are you are using the radio for 2 different functions at the same time?  I am quite sure that the radio is not designed for this.

I can address both of your two paragraphs better with some of the screenshots.

First off, let ac knowledge that I understand I loose maybe 3DB or more, whatever, by running the D710GA on the same Frequency Band. So far it is inconsequential.

SO, right-hand channel(B) is on the AX.25 up/down links for the pitifully few Satellites carrying Packet, at the moment.
Screenshot shows USNAP-1 ARISS from the SignaLink connection, the ONLY one with that Frequency. It also show a local, N4TNA beacon.


Left-Hand channel A Band is on APRS.

One screenshot of the Scroller shows my ubiquitous Beacon. I have yet to tell it that I am not testing batteries. But anyway, I left it in SmartBeaconing .... as per one of a dozen GREAT PDF's recommended by people. Randy has a great three page PDF which got me "going" on this lashup, BTW .

I have noted that I must be in Radio-Mode Packet to interface to AGW ...I see though I can't DigiPeat even though I have that setting in D710GA's menu set to Digipeat .

anyway, N4TNA, and my Beacon are copied off Left-Hand (chan A) and Satellites off the right-hand Ch-B 145.825.

Also. I have the program SDR-Console running on 144.390 sending output to VSPE-Line#1 VAC1 ...through AGWPE-Telnet to APRSIS32(port)

So far, The missing SSID problem has not popped up. I am guessing your comment about not trying to tell APRSIS32 to run both Ports at the same time was likely the cause.

The last couple days I have noted a SERIOUS lack of 144.390 APRS traffic. Neither the 15 element nor the stacked loops has seen anything more than my beacon and N4tna.

This is another manifestation of my limited knowledge of interconnection all this stuff.




I am no sure if you can connect the UISS application and APRSIS32 application at the same time, but I think the AGW protocol can handle it.


UISS has ONE trait that helps me make AX.25 QSO over ISS ... there are three buttons with text fields I can fill in then tap a button and have a UI go out ...if anyone copies the DigiPeat from ISS ... they send something ACKing it back to me and I fore off a 'In The Log Book type call ... and Voila! another grid on 2m (usually).

I can't figure out how tro make APRSIS32 let me INSTANTLY select one of three UI type messages and fire them back up to the bird(s). It's crazy-fast to try to make a 145.825 AX.25 QSO.


You will have to disable the Port(D710) ones you were using.  Using
APRSIS32 with an AGW port will allow the data to be displayed from any stream, however, I am sure it can only TX on "stream zero" - first AGW port.
this I will have to mull-over as I am not sure the connotations nor where Stream-Zed is.

But thanks for the great tips.


--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901

KD7YZ Bob
 

Also, the fact SignaLink is connected to Data, allows me to key the CH-B and send a message.


--
Bob KD7YZ
EM88LL

Rob Giuliano
 

I saw a comment from someone else that said the D710 can handle both the intenal TNC and external Data Jack, but it sounds like they need to be on separate "bands" of the radio (A side vs. B side).   So, you are now able to see AGW packets in APRSIS32.  Sounds like you are almost where you want to be.  FYI, 127.0.0.1 and localhost are the same - "this pc" or the pc running the application. 

The mode on startup for things like AGW and APRSIS32 are important in that the application sends commands to the radio to ensure the proper configuration o communicate with them.  They typically have commands they send tot he radio/TNC to place it in the proper communication mode/protocol. 

AMSAT UK site has a nice spreadsheet https://amsat-uk.org/satellites/frequencies-of-active-satellites/ that is easy to enable filters.  Using it to set "*" for active in column H, then looking for 1200 AFSK, I count 20 with downlink frequencies, and a few more that just say APRS.  That sounds like a lot.

You don't say what SDR-console is connected to, but it sounds like a receive only device sending decoded sata to APRSIS32.

I will suggest you review the port settings in APRSIS32 and make sure you don't check Xmit Enable on ports that don't have the capability.  Not sure it matters, but still makes sense to turn that off.

I'll let Lynn discuss the "...APRSIS32 let me INSTANTLY select one of three UI type messages .. ".  Noty familiar with this.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Friday, November 15, 2019, 9:20:57 AM EST, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:


On 11/14/2019 18:08, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:

> The port definitions you show are ports for the D710's "built in TNC",
> not AGW

True. I setup both APRS and Packet via APRSIS32's setup pre-caned D710
methods.

In AGWPE I used the Soundcard approach to see/read SignaLink's conn to
DATA on the D710 back. This is then made available to APRSIS32 via an
"AGW" Pre-Canned port I called 127.0.0.1:8000 but have used localhost too.

I also read that AGWPE MUST see the D710GA in Packet mode when first
being activated. Took me  long time to understand why I wasn't seeing
AGW thru APRSIS32. (one of many manifestations of my lack of skill-sets
with Packet/Kenwood/APRSIS32 interactions).

>      I am quite certain that when using the head TNC port, only 1 side
> of the radio is connected to this internal TNC and thus sent to the
> attached computer running APRSIS32.
>
> You also appear to have the "data jack" (6-pin audio I/O and PTT)
> connected through the SignaLink and AGW.  Having both connected,  are
> you are using the radio for 2 different functions at the same time?  I
> am quite sure that the radio is not designed for this.


I can address both of your two paragraphs better with some of the
screenshots.

First off, let ac knowledge that I understand I loose maybe 3DB or more,
whatever, by running the D710GA on the same Frequency Band. So far it is
inconsequential.

SO, right-hand channel(B) is on the AX.25 up/down links for the
pitifully few Satellites carrying Packet, at the moment.
Screenshot shows USNAP-1 ARISS from the SignaLink connection, the ONLY
one with that Frequency. It also show a local, N4TNA beacon.


Left-Hand channel A Band is on APRS.

One screenshot of the Scroller shows my ubiquitous Beacon. I have yet to
tell it that I am not testing batteries. But anyway, I left it in
SmartBeaconing .... as per one of a dozen GREAT PDF's recommended by
people. Randy has a great three page PDF which got me "going" on this
lashup, BTW .

I have noted that I must be in Radio-Mode Packet to interface to AGW
...I see though I can't DigiPeat even though I have that setting in
D710GA's menu set to Digipeat .

anyway, N4TNA, and my Beacon are copied off Left-Hand (chan A) and
Satellites off the right-hand Ch-B 145.825.

Also. I have the program SDR-Console running on 144.390 sending output
to VSPE-Line#1 VAC1 ...through AGWPE-Telnet to APRSIS32(port)

So far, The missing SSID problem has not popped up. I am guessing your
comment about not trying to tell APRSIS32 to run both Ports at the same
time was likely the cause.

The last couple days I have noted a SERIOUS  lack of 144.390 APRS
traffic. Neither the 15 element nor the stacked loops has seen anything
more than my beacon and N4tna.

This is another manifestation of my limited knowledge of interconnection
all this stuff.




> I am no sure if you can connect the UISS application and APRSIS32
> application at the same time, but I think the AGW protocol can handle
> it.



UISS has ONE trait that helps me make AX.25 QSO over ISS ... there are
three buttons with text fields I can fill in then tap a button and have
a UI go out ...if anyone copies the DigiPeat from ISS ... they send
something ACKing it back to me and I fore off a 'In The Log Book type
call ... and Voila! another grid on 2m (usually).

I can't figure out how tro make APRSIS32 let me INSTANTLY select one of
three UI type messages and fire them back up to the bird(s). It's
crazy-fast to try to make a 145.825 AX.25 QSO.


  You will have to disable the Port(D710) ones you were using.  Using
> APRSIS32 with an AGW port will allow the data to be displayed from any
> stream, however, I am sure it can only TX on "stream zero" - first AGW port.

this I will have to mull-over as I am not sure the connotations nor
where Stream-Zed is.

But thanks for the great tips.


--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901