HF And I-Gates
Tony
All:
I have a question regarding HF and I-Gates. Most of my APRS experience has been limited to chatting on HF (Robust Packet) with a limited number of stations. I recently came across an I-gate station that was able to chat with me on 30 meters and I wondered how one finds HF (RF only) stations and chatting with them via an I-gate? I'm assuming it starts with filtering all APRS-IS traffic except HF-RF stations? Obviously, my knowledge of APRS is limited so I'm not sure if I-gate-to-HF chats are standard practice or maybe frowned upon for whatever reason. Thanks, Tony |
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Lynn Deffenbaugh
Unfortunately, there is nothing standard in an APRS packet that identifies what band it is on. That said, if you have a list of known HF (only) IGates, you
could use the e/ filter to list those and set your range to
zero. Such a configuration should (mostly) get only packets
gated to the APRS-IS by the specified IGates. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/15/2023 2:52 AM, Tony wrote:
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Tony,
What is your call sign? I get messages all the time on my HF station. I don't think my station sends a ACK for messages. I am running Direwolf and Ui-View. I don't think Direwolf supports all of the messaging parameters. Wayne WA5LUY |
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Lynn Deffenbaugh
Are the messages addressed to Direwolf or Ui-View? Only the
addressed instance is supposed to generate an ack, and an ack
should only be generated if the original message requested it by
including a Message ID (see page 81-82 of
http://www.aprs.org/doc/APRS101.PDF). The gentleman's
agreement, I believe, on HF is to not request acks when sending
messages. I don't know what setting UI-View has for this, but in
APRSIS32, you simply uncheck the "Ack" checkbox in the chat
dialog. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/15/2023 9:35 AM, wa5luy wrote:
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Lynn,
Thanks for your reply. Are the messages addressed to Direwolf or Ui-View? I don't understand the question. I am running Direwolf as an 10M I-gate. UI-View is connected to Drewolf via AGWPE. If someone sends a message to WA5LUY-10 that comes in from the internet I never see it in UI-View. If someone sends a message to WA5LUY-10 via RF I see it in UI-View but my station does not send an ack. I realize this is not the Direwolf or UI-View forum to sort this out. I receive a number of test messages via RF. My question to Tony about his call was to see if he was one of those folks sending a test message. Wayne WA5LUY |
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Lynn Deffenbaugh
Direwolf can be configured to be simply a modem interface between other APRS client software and a radio, or it can implement higher level APRS features like digipeating and position beaconing on its own. For anything more than simply being a modem, Direwolf should be configured with its own unique callsign-SSID. And every APRS client instance, like your UI-View, should also be configured with a completely unique callsign-SSID. This is done so that you can tell which software is doing what when it comes to packets. So, do you have a callsign-SSID configured in your Direwolf configuration, and what callsign-SSID do you have configured into UI-View? And is UI-View also connected to the APRS-IS with a non-blank filter, or is it only connected to Direwolf for RF access? I'll entertain this discussion on this list because it doesn't matter if the client is UI-View or APRSIS32, the way the station(s) interact with APRS, both RF and -IS, is the same. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/16/2023 10:28 AM, wa5luy wrote:
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Lynn,
At present UI-View is only connected to Direwolf for RF with no SSID. Direwold connected to the Pi handles all the I-Gate traffic to the internet. The computer running UI-View is an old XP running several other programs and with it connected to APRS-IS it was just overloaded. I see what you are getting at by having two SSID's. So for now basically I am using UI-View in the XP machine as a monitor. It does show received packets in the monitor terminal and creates a neat map of stations heard but of course it will not send a message. I don't normally look at UI-View so messaging would be only hit and miss situation. For now I think I will just leave it as it is. By the way Tony did send me a direct message and he was one of the stations I saw in the message terminal. 73 Wayne WA5LUY |
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