Filter Verification


Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

I know that this is an old topic but I am looking for verification that my filter is set up correctly for IS to RF
Can someone also confirm in the Filter Test (ctrl+G) that when it says "hit" that it would be transmitted via RF?

Have a bunch of D-Star gateways in our area that don't need to go out onto RF because they are all short range. I do have one D-Star repeater that I want to go out however, and potentially a couple of high power hotspots, but not all of the little ones (like my house)

Proposed Filter:
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 b/AF2A* -b/KD2EAT -s///D

Goal: IS to RF Packets that
fall within the lat/long (proven, has been working great for a long time)
Adding a buddy filter to pass anything starting with AF2A (Including the D-Star Symbol because this is a repeater)
Don't transmit "KD2EAT" specifically
Don't transmit any symbol with a D overlay.

I feel like the b/AF2A* and the -s///D are going to interfere with each other.

Example calls that I want to NOT TX
N2MOF-B
N2MOF B
W2TXB-B
W2TXB B
N2FSD-B
N2FSD B
N2FSD-C
N2FSD C

But I DO want to TX 
AF2A-B

I'd considered doing it by "-b/*-B/ B/-C/ C" but I'm not sure which is the better option.

Thank you for taking a look at this,

Adam
KC2ANT


Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, anything that says "hit" will go out.


And yes, the -s///D will trump (not allow) anything that was previously selected.


"-b/*-B" will not work because the * only works at the end of a station ID.  It is not a wildcard like used in a file system.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 8/27/2021 1:16 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
I know that this is an old topic but I am looking for verification that my filter is set up correctly for IS to RF
Can someone also confirm in the Filter Test (ctrl+G) that when it says "hit" that it would be transmitted via RF?

Have a bunch of D-Star gateways in our area that don't need to go out onto RF because they are all short range. I do have one D-Star repeater that I want to go out however, and potentially a couple of high power hotspots, but not all of the little ones (like my house)

Proposed Filter:
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 b/AF2A* -b/KD2EAT -s///D

Goal: IS to RF Packets that
fall within the lat/long (proven, has been working great for a long time)
Adding a buddy filter to pass anything starting with AF2A (Including the D-Star Symbol because this is a repeater)
Don't transmit "KD2EAT" specifically
Don't transmit any symbol with a D overlay.

I feel like the b/AF2A* and the -s///D are going to interfere with each other.

Example calls that I want to NOT TX
N2MOF-B
N2MOF B
W2TXB-B
W2TXB B
N2FSD-B
N2FSD B
N2FSD-C
N2FSD C

But I DO want to TX 
AF2A-B

I'd considered doing it by "-b/*-B/ B/-C/ C" but I'm not sure which is the better option.

Thank you for taking a look at this,

Adam
KC2ANT


Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

Thanks Lynn,

so, if I want to filter out all of the -s///D symbols I have no way to send the D-Star Repeater with that symbol, I would need to recreate it as a repeater object and send it separately. 

Thank you, I thought I had it right, but it's been so long I wanted to double check with the more knowledgeable. 

73,
Adam
KC2ANT


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Verification
 

Yes, anything that says "hit" will go out.


And yes, the -s///D will trump (not allow) anything that was previously selected.


"-b/*-B" will not work because the * only works at the end of a station ID.  It is not a wildcard like used in a file system.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 8/27/2021 1:16 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
I know that this is an old topic but I am looking for verification that my filter is set up correctly for IS to RF
Can someone also confirm in the Filter Test (ctrl+G) that when it says "hit" that it would be transmitted via RF?

Have a bunch of D-Star gateways in our area that don't need to go out onto RF because they are all short range. I do have one D-Star repeater that I want to go out however, and potentially a couple of high power hotspots, but not all of the little ones (like my house)

Proposed Filter:
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 b/AF2A* -b/KD2EAT -s///D

Goal: IS to RF Packets that
fall within the lat/long (proven, has been working great for a long time)
Adding a buddy filter to pass anything starting with AF2A (Including the D-Star Symbol because this is a repeater)
Don't transmit "KD2EAT" specifically
Don't transmit any symbol with a D overlay.

I feel like the b/AF2A* and the -s///D are going to interfere with each other.

Example calls that I want to NOT TX
N2MOF-B
N2MOF B
W2TXB-B
W2TXB B
N2FSD-B
N2FSD B
N2FSD-C
N2FSD C

But I DO want to TX 
AF2A-B

I'd considered doing it by "-b/*-B/ B/-C/ C" but I'm not sure which is the better option.

Thank you for taking a look at this,

Adam
KC2ANT


Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

hmm... so, I updated my filter to

a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 -b/KD2EAT -s///D

but I'm still getting hits on stations with the "D" overlay


WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 Considering:N2PKA-S Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PKA-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,N2PKA-GS:;N2PKA  B *271741z4235.41ND07622.30WaRNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 IStoRF:Packet(N2PKA-S) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PKA-S>APDG01,TCPIP,W2CXM*:;N2PKA  B *271741z4235.41ND07622.30WaRNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 Considering:N2PKA-B Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PKA-B>APDG02,TCPIP*,qAC,N2PKA-BS:!4235.41ND07622.30W&RNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 IStoRF:Packet(N2PKA-B) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PKA-B>APDG02,TCPIP,W2CXM*:!4235.41ND07622.30W&RNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 Considering:N2PYI-13(IS) I: 7
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PYI-13>APT314,WIDE1-1,qAR,N2PYI-2:@141636z4229.40N/07623.63W_000/000g000t079r000p000P000h86b10191.DsVP
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 IStoRF:Packet(N2PYI-13) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PYI-13>APT314,TCPIP,W2CXM*:@141636z4229.40N/07623.63W_000/000g000t079r000p000P000h86b10191.DsVP
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 Considering:N2LQI-S Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2LQI-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,N2LQI-GS:;N2LQI  B *271742z4236.32ND07622.36WaRNG0001/A=000010 440 Voice 445.96250MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 IStoRF:Packet(N2LQI-S) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2LQI-S>APDG01,TCPIP,W2CXM*:;N2LQI  B *271742z4236.32ND07622.36WaRNG0001/A=000010 440 Voice 445.96250MHz +0.0000MHz


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 1:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Verification
 
Thanks Lynn,

so, if I want to filter out all of the -s///D symbols I have no way to send the D-Star Repeater with that symbol, I would need to recreate it as a repeater object and send it separately. 

Thank you, I thought I had it right, but it's been so long I wanted to double check with the more knowledgeable. 

73,
Adam
KC2ANT

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Verification
 

Yes, anything that says "hit" will go out.


And yes, the -s///D will trump (not allow) anything that was previously selected.


"-b/*-B" will not work because the * only works at the end of a station ID.  It is not a wildcard like used in a file system.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 8/27/2021 1:16 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
I know that this is an old topic but I am looking for verification that my filter is set up correctly for IS to RF
Can someone also confirm in the Filter Test (ctrl+G) that when it says "hit" that it would be transmitted via RF?

Have a bunch of D-Star gateways in our area that don't need to go out onto RF because they are all short range. I do have one D-Star repeater that I want to go out however, and potentially a couple of high power hotspots, but not all of the little ones (like my house)

Proposed Filter:
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 b/AF2A* -b/KD2EAT -s///D

Goal: IS to RF Packets that
fall within the lat/long (proven, has been working great for a long time)
Adding a buddy filter to pass anything starting with AF2A (Including the D-Star Symbol because this is a repeater)
Don't transmit "KD2EAT" specifically
Don't transmit any symbol with a D overlay.

I feel like the b/AF2A* and the -s///D are going to interfere with each other.

Example calls that I want to NOT TX
N2MOF-B
N2MOF B
W2TXB-B
W2TXB B
N2FSD-B
N2FSD B
N2FSD-C
N2FSD C

But I DO want to TX 
AF2A-B

I'd considered doing it by "-b/*-B/ B/-C/ C" but I'm not sure which is the better option.

Thank you for taking a look at this,

Adam
KC2ANT


Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Try -s//&/D  You have to say which alternate table symbol you want the overlay to apply to.


The easy way to test this is with the inverse of the symbol as just the filter in a FilterTest.  s///D doesn't get anything while s//&/D gets the D-Star stations you're trying to get rid of.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 8/27/2021 1:45 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
hmm... so, I updated my filter to

a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 -b/KD2EAT -s///D

but I'm still getting hits on stations with the "D" overlay


WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 Considering:N2PKA-S Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PKA-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,N2PKA-GS:;N2PKA  B *271741z4235.41ND07622.30WaRNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:41.962 IStoRF:Packet(N2PKA-S) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PKA-S>APDG01,TCPIP,W2CXM*:;N2PKA  B *271741z4235.41ND07622.30WaRNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 Considering:N2PKA-B Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PKA-B>APDG02,TCPIP*,qAC,N2PKA-BS:!4235.41ND07622.30W&RNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:41:51.805 IStoRF:Packet(N2PKA-B) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PKA-B>APDG02,TCPIP,W2CXM*:!4235.41ND07622.30W&RNG0001 440 Voice 441.00000MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 Considering:N2PYI-13(IS) I: 7
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2PYI-13>APT314,WIDE1-1,qAR,N2PYI-2:@141636z4229.40N/07623.63W_000/000g000t079r000p000P000h86b10191.DsVP
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:42:50.587 IStoRF:Packet(N2PYI-13) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2PYI-13>APT314,TCPIP,W2CXM*:@141636z4229.40N/07623.63W_000/000g000t079r000p000P000h86b10191.DsVP
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 Considering:N2LQI-S Not Found
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(a/42.629500/-76.704500/42.255500/-76.238330)) [0]N2LQI-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,N2LQI-GS:;N2LQI  B *271742z4236.32ND07622.36WaRNG0001/A=000010 440 Voice 445.96250MHz +0.0000MHz
WinMain:2021-08-27T17:43:00.603 IStoRF:Packet(N2LQI-S) W2CXM>APWW11,WIDE2-1:}N2LQI-S>APDG01,TCPIP,W2CXM*:;N2LQI  B *271742z4236.32ND07622.36WaRNG0001/A=000010 440 Voice 445.96250MHz +0.0000MHz

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 1:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Verification
 
Thanks Lynn,

so, if I want to filter out all of the -s///D symbols I have no way to send the D-Star Repeater with that symbol, I would need to recreate it as a repeater object and send it separately. 

Thank you, I thought I had it right, but it's been so long I wanted to double check with the more knowledgeable. 

73,
Adam
KC2ANT

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Verification
 

Yes, anything that says "hit" will go out.


And yes, the -s///D will trump (not allow) anything that was previously selected.


"-b/*-B" will not work because the * only works at the end of a station ID.  It is not a wildcard like used in a file system.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 8/27/2021 1:16 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
I know that this is an old topic but I am looking for verification that my filter is set up correctly for IS to RF
Can someone also confirm in the Filter Test (ctrl+G) that when it says "hit" that it would be transmitted via RF?

Have a bunch of D-Star gateways in our area that don't need to go out onto RF because they are all short range. I do have one D-Star repeater that I want to go out however, and potentially a couple of high power hotspots, but not all of the little ones (like my house)

Proposed Filter:
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 b/AF2A* -b/KD2EAT -s///D

Goal: IS to RF Packets that
fall within the lat/long (proven, has been working great for a long time)
Adding a buddy filter to pass anything starting with AF2A (Including the D-Star Symbol because this is a repeater)
Don't transmit "KD2EAT" specifically
Don't transmit any symbol with a D overlay.

I feel like the b/AF2A* and the -s///D are going to interfere with each other.

Example calls that I want to NOT TX
N2MOF-B
N2MOF B
W2TXB-B
W2TXB B
N2FSD-B
N2FSD B
N2FSD-C
N2FSD C

But I DO want to TX 
AF2A-B

I'd considered doing it by "-b/*-B/ B/-C/ C" but I'm not sure which is the better option.

Thank you for taking a look at this,

Adam
KC2ANT