Moving to new location


Jon W7SEA
 

I’m trying to follow the Wiki’s instructions on how to move my location, but, when I click “Transmit,” “Move ME to Center” does not appear?  Can’t seem to figure out how to move it….


Adam Mahnke
 

Try zooming in further. It has to be zoomed in quite a ways, I just don't remember how far.

Adam
KC2ANT

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:17 PM Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
I’m trying to follow the Wiki’s instructions on how to move my location, but, when I click “Transmit,” “Move ME to Center” does not appear?  Can’t seem to figure out how to move it….


Jon W7SEA
 

Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Adam Mahnke
 

No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:

No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Greg D
 

A thought for a feature enhancement...?  APRS includes the concept of location ambiguity.  Perhaps the amount you're zoomed in could be reflected in an initial setting for that?  Less zoom, fewer digits.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Adam Mahnke
 

Only downside is when I want to force a beacon when I'm not centered on myself

Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 21:05 Greg D <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
A thought for a feature enhancement...?  APRS includes the concept of location ambiguity.  Perhaps the amount you're zoomed in could be reflected in an initial setting for that?  Less zoom, fewer digits.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Transmit is still there at the further out zooms, it's just that it doesn't offer the "Move ME" question.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 9:07 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:

Only downside is when I want to force a beacon when I'm not centered on myself

Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 21:05 Greg D <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
A thought for a feature enhancement...?  APRS includes the concept of location ambiguity.  Perhaps the amount you're zoomed in could be reflected in an initial setting for that?  Less zoom, fewer digits.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Personally, I find APRS's ambiguity rather humorous for a lot of stations that are using it.   For instance, digipeater towers that transmit ambiguity when you can probably see the tower from anywhere within the ambiguous distance.   And mobiles that transmit ambiguity when it only affects one of the lat/lon values while the other is fully transmitted.   And if your mobile along a road, it's usually pretty obvious from your (ambiguous) track which road you're actually following.

But for those that want to do it, there is Configure / Beacon / Precision with the +/- options that generate ambiguous posit packets.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 9:05 PM, Greg D wrote:

A thought for a feature enhancement...?  APRS includes the concept of location ambiguity.  Perhaps the amount you're zoomed in could be reflected in an initial setting for that?  Less zoom, fewer digits.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.


Greg D
 

Sure.  I was just thinking that accepting a zoom level not acceptable by the current code could be turned into a "feature" where it's accepted and turned into a less precise mapping.  Of course, then you have the potential for a service call due to an apparently incorrect placement, which could have been prevented by annoying them into zooming in enough in the first place.  Choice of poison, I guess.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

Personally, I find APRS's ambiguity rather humorous for a lot of stations that are using it.   For instance, digipeater towers that transmit ambiguity when you can probably see the tower from anywhere within the ambiguous distance.   And mobiles that transmit ambiguity when it only affects one of the lat/lon values while the other is fully transmitted.   And if your mobile along a road, it's usually pretty obvious from your (ambiguous) track which road you're actually following.

But for those that want to do it, there is Configure / Beacon / Precision with the +/- options that generate ambiguous posit packets.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 9:05 PM, Greg D wrote:
A thought for a feature enhancement...?  APRS includes the concept of location ambiguity.  Perhaps the amount you're zoomed in could be reflected in an initial setting for that?  Less zoom, fewer digits.

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

The reason for requiring a pretty-tight zoom before offering to Move ME is to make sure you are really centered where you want to be.  If you're zoomed out too far, one pixel on the map is a pretty large area within which to solve for a specific coordinate.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/23/2023 5:54 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
No problem, been there, done that.

73
Adam
KC2ANT 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 17:52 Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Adam, thank you--that was the problem.



Rob Giuliano
 

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:41 PM, Greg D wrote:
Sure.  I was just thinking that accepting a zoom level not acceptable by the current code could be turned into a "feature" where it's accepted and turned into a less precise mapping.  Of course, then you have the potential for a service call due to an apparently incorrect placement, which could have been prevented by annoying them into zooming in enough in the first place.  Choice of poison, I guess.
EXACTLY!
I am pretty sure that kind of option would draw more headaches than it solves.
I can't say how long APRSIS32 has been around, but I can count on just both hands how many times I've seen this question in the MANY years I have been a part of the group.  I go back until at least August of 2010.

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Rob KB8RCO