aprsisce32 and the the FT 991


Robert
 

I have the aprsisce program up and running. A friend told me you have to have a sound card program in order to connect with others. I have my radio tuned to 144.390 but I am not able to transmit. I d/led a program from UZ7HO called sound card modem114. But I still can't transmit. I have USBCODEC on both input and output.
I guess I should mention that this is my first time with aprsisce32. Also I hope to use Dire Wolf some day. That is another can of worms.
--
Robert Allen


Rob Giuliano
 

I am not familiar with the FT991.
You don't give much detail as to what isn't working on the FT991 - not able to transmit is too generic.
   Does the FT991 go into TX (PTT LED ON)? 
   Or do you get TX LED come on but no TX audio?

In general, you will need 3 aspects to use APRSISce/32 with UZ7HO sound modem or Direwolf:
1. Sound card for audio input and output from the computer with UZ7HO Direwolf
    This could be the internal sound card on some newer radios
2. PTT capability - This can any means of causing the radio to go into TX mode
    a) CAT control of the radio that UZ7HO can utilize
    b) PTT circuit from either the computer IO (such as a serial port pin, IO pins on a raspberry pi, or even the IO pin on a sound card)
        MOST IMPORTANT is that UZ7HO or Direwolf has a means of activating it.
   c) VOX control on the radio or as part of the sound card (such as the SignaLink USB)
3. Properly configured APRSISce/32 RF port (most likely AGW port or KISS over TCP port)
   
The first 2 items are outside APRSISce/32 control and need to be setup and working first.
If you are already receiving packets from UZ7HO to APRSISce/32, the after you get 1 & 2 working on your FT991, it should work with TX.
If, after you the sound card and PTT working and you then need help with the APRSISce/32 interface (#3 above), post your question with your RF port information for more help.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 04:34:27 PM EDT, Robert <wb4sjn71@...> wrote:


I have the aprsisce program up and running. A friend told me you have to have a sound card program in order to connect with others. I have my radio tuned to 144.390 but I am not able to transmit. I d/led a program from UZ7HO called sound card modem114. But I still can't transmit. I have USBCODEC on both input and output.
I guess I should mention that this is my first time with aprsisce32. Also I hope to use Dire Wolf some day. That is another can of worms.
--
Robert Allen


Robert
 

Thanks for the reply. One of the big problems is that the FT991/991A radios will not work with any of the UZ7HO sound card programs. So, if I am going to use Dire Wolf I will have to get a TNC, which I am looking at. I have Dire Wolf but I am at a loss as how to properly configure it. This is all new to me. I am reaching out to my community to see if I can find someone that knows how to get me up to speed .
--
Robert Allen


VA3MCT
 

Robert,

UZ7HO software does work with the FT991/A and therefore in turn APRSIS

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It's all in the settings. The screenshot above is not from an actual radio, it's using a SignalinkUSB. When I can get to my FT991, I will get accurate settings for you.

There are known issues with trying to use the High-Speed soundmodem for 9600 baud from UZ7HO, but that is more to do with that specific radio than it is to do with the software driving it, whether it is soundmodem from UZ7HO or direwolf.

You do need to remember to download thptt-dll.zip   from the UZ7HO web site.

But for basic APRS communication at 1200bps, the FT991 is a perfect radio, if not somewhat of an overkill.

I agree with Rob G. that we need more information to truly help here.


73,
Mike Crabtree - VA3MCT


On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 15:15, Robert <wb4sjn71@...> wrote:
Thanks for the reply. One of the big problems is that the FT991/991A radios will not work with any of the UZ7HO sound card programs. So, if I am going to use Dire Wolf I will have to get a TNC, which I am looking at. I have Dire Wolf but I am at a loss as how to properly configure it. This is all new to me. I am reaching out to my community to see if I can find someone that knows how to get me up to speed .
--
Robert Allen


Rob Giuliano
 

The FT991 will work with UZ7HO (or Direwolf) because the FT991 has a DataPort (6-pin mini-DIN with 1200, 9600 baud audio pins to feed a sound card, mic audio pin from a sound card, a PTT pin, and ground (last pin is CD - carrier detect).

As VA3MCT point out in another response, UZ7HO has CAT control option for the FT991A to control the PTT line external from the 6-pin mini-DIN.  However, using CAT control means you need the proper CAT control cable fro the FT991.

Since Direwolf and UZ7HO are software TNCs, you don't need a hardware TNC.  A hardware TNC connects through a serial connection from the computer, not through a sound card.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 03:15:12 PM EDT, Robert <wb4sjn71@...> wrote:


Thanks for the reply. One of the big problems is that the FT991/991A radios will not work with any of the UZ7HO sound card programs. So, if I am going to use Dire Wolf I will have to get a TNC, which I am looking at. I have Dire Wolf but I am at a loss as how to properly configure it. This is all new to me. I am reaching out to my community to see if I can find someone that knows how to get me up to speed .
--
Robert Allen


Don Woodward - KD4APP
 

The FT991A has a USB port (USB-B) which carries the proper signals for CAT/PTT via two virtual serial ports and audio via two virtual USB audio ports.  All via one single cable to the PC.

I believe the 991 also has this also.

73's

Don W.
KD4APP

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 10:21 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <aprsisce@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] aprsisce32 and the the FT 991
 
The FT991 will work with UZ7HO (or Direwolf) because the FT991 has a DataPort (6-pin mini-DIN with 1200, 9600 baud audio pins to feed a sound card, mic audio pin from a sound card, a PTT pin, and ground (last pin is CD - carrier detect).

As VA3MCT point out in another response, UZ7HO has CAT control option for the FT991A to control the PTT line external from the 6-pin mini-DIN.  However, using CAT control means you need the proper CAT control cable fro the FT991.

Since Direwolf and UZ7HO are software TNCs, you don't need a hardware TNC.  A hardware TNC connects through a serial connection from the computer, not through a sound card.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 03:15:12 PM EDT, Robert <wb4sjn71@...> wrote:


Thanks for the reply. One of the big problems is that the FT991/991A radios will not work with any of the UZ7HO sound card programs. So, if I am going to use Dire Wolf I will have to get a TNC, which I am looking at. I have Dire Wolf but I am at a loss as how to properly configure it. This is all new to me. I am reaching out to my community to see if I can find someone that knows how to get me up to speed .
--
Robert Allen


Rob Giuliano
 

I missed that when I glanced through the manual before.  I went to the "Plug/Connector Pinout Diagrams" in the manual and the USB connection was not listed.

With this information, you (Robert Allen) should be able to get the FT991A to interface with either UZ7HO or Direwolf.
I am much more familiar with Direwolf, but the interfaces should be similar.

IMPORTANT:
1. Determine the CAT/PTT ports from the FT991A from within your operating system.
    The manual says you need the SCU-17 driver.  FT991 manual pages 126 and 127 seem to have good detail.
    I suggest using the PTT port as this is usually more responsive (hower CAT PTT has worked as well).
     This is the COM port you need to use in UZ7HO or Direwolf for PTT.
     Follow their manual on how to configure
2. Determine the sound devices of the FT991A from your operating system (USB AUDIO CODEC)
    Then use the appropriate settings for the audio input and audio output in UZ7HO or Direwolf.

NOTE: The above 2 steps are required to get the radio interfaced with the computer.
           This "creates" the software TNC which controls the FT991 and converts the RF/Audio to computer usable information.
           This is the most important part as APRSIS32 only deals with that "usable information" from the TNC.

3. Configure the output of UZ7HO (or Direwolf) as an AGW server port and/or KISS server port
    Take note of the port number!!!

4. In APRSIS32, create a new RF port (Menu >Configure >Ports >New Port...)
    For Type: {choose the port you enabled - AGW or simply(KISS) }
          Name: {any fitting unique name}
          <Create>
    Next popup is Device Choose <TCP/IP>
        For IP or DNS: address of the computer or use LocalHost
        For Port: use the number from #3 above for the mode you are connecting to
                       (AGW default is 8000 for both apps, KISS depends on app: 8001 for Direwolf, 8100 for UZ7HO)
        <OK>
    Back to the port configuration, choose the settings you want for this port (check boxes)
    <Accept>

Now you should be now have a functional setup between your radio and APRSIS32.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 08:08:13 AM EDT, Don Woodward <dbwoodw@...> wrote:


The FT991A has a USB port (USB-B) which carries the proper signals for CAT/PTT via two virtual serial ports and audio via two virtual USB audio ports.  All via one single cable to the PC.

I believe the 991 also has this also.

73's

Don W.
KD4APP

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 10:21 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <aprsisce@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] aprsisce32 and the the FT 991
 
The FT991 will work with UZ7HO (or Direwolf) because the FT991 has a DataPort (6-pin mini-DIN with 1200, 9600 baud audio pins to feed a sound card, mic audio pin from a sound card, a PTT pin, and ground (last pin is CD - carrier detect).

As VA3MCT point out in another response, UZ7HO has CAT control option for the FT991A to control the PTT line external from the 6-pin mini-DIN.  However, using CAT control means you need the proper CAT control cable fro the FT991.

Since Direwolf and UZ7HO are software TNCs, you don't need a hardware TNC.  A hardware TNC connects through a serial connection from the computer, not through a sound card.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 03:15:12 PM EDT, Robert <wb4sjn71@...> wrote:


Thanks for the reply. One of the big problems is that the FT991/991A radios will not work with any of the UZ7HO sound card programs. So, if I am going to use Dire Wolf I will have to get a TNC, which I am looking at. I have Dire Wolf but I am at a loss as how to properly configure it. This is all new to me. I am reaching out to my community to see if I can find someone that knows how to get me up to speed .
--
Robert Allen